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[Roadrunner7671]

Alright. Nothing to say, except that Haddock is sorta scummy and Ameritrash is dropping like flies. Expect substance later.

[pingpongsam]

@adk

Yeah, also, why would scum!egork volunteer that someone is hated?

[Roadrunner7671]

@adk

Yeah, also, why would scum!egork volunteer that someone is hated?

He did that?

[A Drowned Kernel]

@adk

Yeah, also, why would scum!egork volunteer that someone is hated?

He did that?

He did, didn't he.

If I was ash, I might call scumslip. But I'm more inclined to think that he was just jumping to conclusions.

[Roadrunner7671]

@adk

Yeah, also, why would scum!egork volunteer that someone is hated?

He did that?

He did, didn't he.

If I was ash, I might call scumslip. But I'm more inclined to think that he was just jumping to conclusions.

Should a hated person claim hated? Did Egor do the right thing?

[A Drowned Kernel]

Probably not. What I mean is that Egor seems to be assuming that scum tried to kill someone who was unclaimed, rather than that they tried to kill someone who was claimed and that that person was protected. The latter seems just as, if not more likely to me.

[Roadrunner7671]

Why is claiming hated a bad thing? If I was hated, it would be one of my first few posts. Is this bad?

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm against claiming as a kneejerk reaction, but maybe that's a case where it's good.

[pingpongsam]

I assumed hated was randomly assigned when his vig shot hit town.

[pingpongsam]

Why is claiming hated a bad thing? If I was hated, it would be one of my first few posts. Is this bad?

He doesn't know who is hated and neither does the hated person.

[Roadrunner7671]

Why is claiming hated a bad thing? If I was hated, it would be one of my first few posts. Is this bad?

He doesn't know who is hated and neither does the hated person.

This is a general question, the answer wasn't on Mafia Scum Wiki. If you know you're hated, should you claim? Why or why not?

[pingpongsam]

Why is claiming hated a bad thing? If I was hated, it would be one of my first few posts. Is this bad?

He doesn't know who is hated and neither does the hated person.

This is a general question, the answer wasn't on Mafia Scum Wiki. If you know you're hated, should you claim? Why or why not?

Yes you should claim to prevent derphammers. I have reason to believe hated is a recurring theme in this setup.

[Roadrunner7671]

Reason to believe? Is that a soft claim?

[pingpongsam]

Reason to believe? Is that a soft claim?

It's nothing I didn't say yesterday, why the interest now?

[A Drowned Kernel]

Wait, PPS, are you acting on the assumption that EgorK was talking about someone becoming hated because of his role, and not because scum tried to kill someone and guessed their alignment wrong? Because I was assuming the latter.

[pingpongsam]

Wait, PPS, are you acting on the assumption that EgorK was talking about someone becoming hated because of his role, and not because scum tried to kill someone and guessed their alignment wrong? Because I was assuming the latter.

Yes. I'd rather egork clarified though. I was just stating how I had interpreted his claim not that I was in any way certain.

[pingpongsam]

Wait, are you saying the setup makes someone hated if Mass Market guesses wrong? If so, I totally missed that.

[pingpongsam]

Okay, nevermind. I didn't know the bit about getting hated on a scum nk whiff.

[pingpongsam]

Hopefully you can see why I would have been reading more into egork's offhand comment.

[A Drowned Kernel]

A certain number of players in this game will be Mass Market games. They will have the following factional ability:

Guess Who?: Each night, you may target one player and name an Alignment. If the targeted player has that alignment, they will be killed. If they don't, they will take one less vote to be lynched the following Day.

I mean it didn't seem like a scummy thing, more like a you-were-confused thing. If anything it makes you seems townier.

[silverspawn]

A certain number of players in this game will be Mass Market games. They will have the following factional ability:

Guess Who?: Each night, you may target one player and name an Alignment. If the targeted player has that alignment, they will be killed. If they don't, they will take one less vote to be lynched the following Day.

I mean it didn't seem like a scummy thing, more like a you-were-confused thing. If anything it makes you seems townier.

what?

vote: ashersky until he explains why he wanted to make us claim alignments.

yeesh, I thought I had read the setup.

[gkrieg13]

Would scum!Hydrad claim the redirection?  Isn't bus-driver normally a scum role?

And why switch someone controversial with someone scummy?

Sorry even catching up on these last few pages leaves lots of questions.

Just based off of opening reactions I'll vote: Haddock

PPS and ADK seem towny in their discussion.  One read the setup and the other didn't.  I think we should be weary of derphammers today though.  Especially with PPS planning on hammering anyone and everyone.  That means that L-3 could really be L-2 could really be L-1.

[SirMartin]

Do we want to lynch me and see if Haddock is telling the truth? Or do we want to lynch Haddock? I'm not entirely sure what Haddock thinks he can do, but all I need to know is that if I get lynched I won't die.

And I encourage people not to call me town or scum based on chairs.
And why is it okay to call people 'scum?' I mean, it's supposed to be taken lightly, but man, scum is a really powerful word.

[Hydrad]

Do we want to lynch me and see if Haddock is telling the truth? Or do we want to lynch Haddock? I'm not entirely sure what Haddock thinks he can do, but all I need to know is that if I get lynched I won't die.

And I encourage people not to call me town or scum based on chairs.
And why is it okay to call people 'scum?' I mean, it's supposed to be taken lightly, but man, scum is a really powerful word.

scum is just a term used to say anyone thats not town. so mafia. or serial killer. or uhh other things.

[Haddock]

Just based off of opening reactions I'll vote: Haddock

Sigh...
I don't even know what this means. But at least it's more of an explanation than "I don't like this". "Nor me." "seconded."
What am I, L-3 already? Sure I guess that's a thing.
Jeez I'm doing my best here guys.