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Re: F.DS Nomic 2 Thread 2 - Game Started, Sudgy's turn
« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2015, 03:34:29 pm »

I like your former idea, I would even drop "related" as this is too subjective

That's what people always say, but a lot of things are subjective.  People can propose what they want, and if others don't think it's related, they can vote against it.  I just don't want people proposing 10 different rules at once doing 10 different things.

It would be good if you propose draft now so that turn can't be skipped. I would prefer one without "related", but would support it either way
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Re: F.DS Nomic 2 Thread 2 - Game Started, Sudgy's turn
« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2015, 04:19:07 pm »

So, the problem is, it looks like rules 302, 303, and 305 need to be changed.  305 could probably just be ruled out with a "this takes precedence over rule 305", but 302 and 303 are both pretty essential to doing it.  Can anybody think of a way around this, without making multiple rules?
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: F.DS Nomic 2 Thread 2 - Game Started, Sudgy's turn
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2015, 05:02:03 pm »

I do not see how 302 contradicts. It says about draft and final proposals, proposal can contain several rules. I am more concerned about 20x rules, ones that deal with numbering. Also I think currently you actually can propose several rules, by backdoor - 999. Do something [Adopt rule 888. Do some other thing]
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Re: F.DS Nomic 2 Thread 2 - Game Started, Sudgy's turn
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2015, 06:25:19 pm »

The way I see it (and how it's worked in the past) is it would be like this:

"rule proposal:

Rule xxx: blah blah

Rule xxx: blah blah

Rule xxx: blah blah"

Then people vote for it as a whole.

I can see how 302 doesn't necessarily contradict anything, but then it seems like at this point like we can already do multiple.  "Proposal" isn't very clearly defined in the rules.  303 seems to say a proposal is a rule change, since it says "where xxx is the proposal number," implying that the proposal number is the same as the rule number.

Okay, now that I've been thinking about this, I think making a new rule defining proposals might be best.

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Rule 208: A proposal is one or more related rule changes.  They are all voted on at once.  A proposal's number is the number of the first rule change in the proposal.  When a proposal is approved, all rule changes in that proposal take effect immediately. (This takes precedence over the last sentence of Rule 305.)

It's in the 200 section because it's like defining rule changes and such.  The precedence thing doesn't need to be there as this rule has a lower number, but I think it's good to have to make things clear.
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