Also, I am not ashersky (because we're both really Wandering Winder) and can't really speak for him, but it's worth noting that he was scum and he was trying to win the game. I would assume that he said everything he said because he was scum trying to win the game, until there's a reason to believe otherwise.
Now hold on!
I have been purposely ignoring you all game because... well you annoy me.
But I have to jump in here.
Feelings are feelings no matter what. Sometimes people feel things when they are scum. Sometimes when they feel things they are town. Feelings rarely can be fabricated or manipulated to fit the context of a certain situation. Like right now. No matter my alignment. I am pretty annoyed with this statement.
And this idea, this pervasive idea that when people are mafia they aren't allowed to have feelings or be annoyed or frustrated or whatever (and that it all must be made up because they are mafia... and thus the scummy scum of the earth) is the main reason I left this game the first time. I have hopefully learned to not internalize that as much, but I am not going to stand by and let it be thrown out that whatever feelings ash had and expressed here on the forum (whether you agree or like them or not) aren't legitimate and real, regardless of how he tried to use them to his best ability.
That is bull shit. And I am calling it bull shit.
End rant. Not discussing this further because I don't want to derail... but I have been where ash has been before (so has ash, so have others for that matter) and if we want to keep this community as something then we need to stop making it so that people aren't constantly alienated out of this community for being told that their feelings aren't real when in fact they are.
Ash can speak more to this after the game if he wants. But I am saying here and now that I don't like it and I don't tolerate it.