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[Awaclus]

Or a rebellious Vanilla Townie...

Is this a claim?

[Roadrunner7671]

Or a rebellious Vanilla Townie...

Is this a claim?

What's a claim?

[chairs]

vote: roadrunner7671

[Roadrunner7671]

vote: roadrunner7671

Why??

[Witherweaver]

Haddock - his defending me is a bit weird. White knighting? Slight scum.

Also this makes me want to lynch one of them.

I suggest you start with Haddock. Then, if he's scum, you can lynch me for being his partner. And if he's town, you can lynch me for pushing his mislynch. You win either way!

Sounds good!

Vote: Haddock

[Witherweaver]

\inbefore "Coached to play up newbieness"

[Awaclus]

Or a rebellious Vanilla Townie...

Is this a claim?

What's a claim?

Claim is when you claim something. Usually it means that you tell everyone what your role is, and possibly any other information you might have acquired because of your role (which might be your actual role or something you made up; the latter case is also known as fakeclaiming).

[Roadrunner7671]

Or a rebellious Vanilla Townie...

Is this a claim?

What's a claim?

Claim is when you claim something. Usually it means that you tell everyone what your role is, and possibly any other information you might have acquired because of your role (which might be your actual role or something you made up; the latter case is also known as fakeclaiming).

Ah, I see. Then I 'claim' to be a vanilla townie. Even if I am not, you all know I am a total noob. I still don't fully understand the switches, so I'd be pretty bad at being scum.

[faust]

Ah, I see. Then I 'claim' to be a vanilla townie. Even if I am not, you all know I am a total noob. I still don't fully understand the switches, so I'd be pretty bad at being scum.

Well. You understand lying as town is bad, yes?

We need to lynch you now.

[Awaclus]

Or a rebellious Vanilla Townie...

Is this a claim?

What's a claim?

Claim is when you claim something. Usually it means that you tell everyone what your role is, and possibly any other information you might have acquired because of your role (which might be your actual role or something you made up; the latter case is also known as fakeclaiming).

Ah, I see. Then I 'claim' to be a vanilla townie. Even if I am not, you all know I am a total noob. I still don't fully understand the switches, so I'd be pretty bad at being scum.

Usually it's not a good idea to claim to be a vanilla townie out of nowhere, because if you really are a vanilla townie, scum won't kill you and then they have a better chance of killing a PR instead. Actually, it's usually not a good idea to claim most things out of nowhere.

[Awaclus]

Also, it doesn't matter how bad you supposedly would be as scum. If you're scum and you never get lynched because of how bad you would be as scum, then you win anyway.

[faust]

Actually though, unvote. This does not feel fake.

So for the other newbie then? Vote: Haddock

[Roadrunner7671]

Or a rebellious Vanilla Townie...

Is this a claim?

What's a claim?

Claim is when you claim something. Usually it means that you tell everyone what your role is, and possibly any other information you might have acquired because of your role (which might be your actual role or something you made up; the latter case is also known as fakeclaiming).

Ah, I see. Then I 'claim' to be a vanilla townie. Even if I am not, you all know I am a total noob. I still don't fully understand the switches, so I'd be pretty bad at being scum.

Usually it's not a good idea to claim to be a vanilla townie out of nowhere, because if you really are a vanilla townie, scum won't kill you and then they have a better chance of killing a PR instead. Actually, it's usually not a good idea to claim most things out of nowhere.

You know what? It got someone to unvote from me. So, thank you for the advice, but I still claim to be a vanilla townie. Why would I want to get killed by scum? So that PRs can live?

[faust]

You know what? It got someone to unvote from me. So, thank you for the advice, but I still claim to be a vanilla townie. Why would I want to get killed by scum? So that PRs can live?

Yes. Pretty much. Also by claiming VT we know that you do not have a town PR, i.e. you are either VT or scum. This makes you a better lynch target than anyone else on paper, because we can be sure not to lynch a PR.

I read you as town from this, but that doesn't make it good play. And for the record: It will never work in the future.

[Twistedarcher]

Vote Count 1.2

Faust (4): Gkrieg13, Roadrunner7671, Ichimaru Gin, Hydrad
silverspawn (2): ashersky, Haddock
ashersky (1): Awaclus
Haddock (3): Jimmmmm, Witherweaver, Faust
Jimmmmm (1): Yuma
Roadrunner7671 (1): Chairs

Not Voting (1): Silverspawn

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

D1 ends October 22 at 7 pm forum time.

[Roadrunner7671]

You know what? It got someone to unvote from me. So, thank you for the advice, but I still claim to be a vanilla townie. Why would I want to get killed by scum? So that PRs can live?

Yes. Pretty much. Also by claiming VT we know that you do not have a town PR, i.e. you are either VT or scum. This makes you a better lynch target than anyone else on paper, because we can be sure not to lynch a PR.

I read you as town from this, but that doesn't make it good play. And for the record: It will never work in the future.

Why will I need to do it again? If people have reads like you, I should be safe. And how do you know I'm not a PR who is lying?

[yuma]

Reads time!

Witherweaver - definitely town because he said so.
Roadrunner7671 - only empty posts. Not posting for a while, but suddenly around when called out on it. Scummy.
Ashersky - a little less reasonable-, kinda in-the-background-ash from fanfiction and a little more usual ash who doesn't care what other people think. Slight town.
gkrieg13 - has gkrieg done anything yet? Null.
Haddock - his defending me is a bit weird. White knighting? Slight scum.
Awaclus - I can't read that guy anyway. Null.
Silverspawn - what he does feels genuine. Town.
Hydrad - Null. Did not have a Hydrad moment yet.
Ichimaru Gin - null. Not enough information so far.
Jimmmmm - yuma has a point. Slight scum.
Yuma - not sure yet. Null.
Chairs - also null.

This is the least Faust thing that this Faust has ever Fausted.

Totally. And way too early to have any meaning.

[Jimmmmm]

You know what? It got someone to unvote from me. So, thank you for the advice, but I still claim to be a vanilla townie. Why would I want to get killed by scum? So that PRs can live?

Yes. Pretty much. Also by claiming VT we know that you do not have a town PR, i.e. you are either VT or scum. This makes you a better lynch target than anyone else on paper, because we can be sure not to lynch a PR.

I read you as town from this, but that doesn't make it good play. And for the record: It will never work in the future.

Why will I need to do it again? If people have reads like you, I should be safe. And how do you know I'm not a PR who is lying?

Lying as Town is generally considered to be just about always bad. It's probably less bad in this setup than average since we know what PRs we have. But it's still generally not advised.

[yuma]

\inbefore "Coached to play up newbieness"

I can't remember... Is wanting to lynch newbies a town tell or a scumtell? If I can't remember that probably means it is neither.

But really I think it was a tow tell cause mafia wouldn't want to risk the wrath of town being upset that you would want to lynch a newbie. I think robs came up with that and it turned out it was generally correct.

[Roadrunner7671]

You know what? It got someone to unvote from me. So, thank you for the advice, but I still claim to be a vanilla townie. Why would I want to get killed by scum? So that PRs can live?

Yes. Pretty much. Also by claiming VT we know that you do not have a town PR, i.e. you are either VT or scum. This makes you a better lynch target than anyone else on paper, because we can be sure not to lynch a PR.

I read you as town from this, but that doesn't make it good play. And for the record: It will never work in the future.

Why will I need to do it again? If people have reads like you, I should be safe. And how do you know I'm not a PR who is lying?

Lying as Town is generally considered to be just about always bad. It's probably less bad in this setup than average since we know what PRs we have. But it's still generally not advised.

So if you are a Vanilla Townie, it is bad to claim to be the Doctor, for example?

[Jimmmmm]

You know what? It got someone to unvote from me. So, thank you for the advice, but I still claim to be a vanilla townie. Why would I want to get killed by scum? So that PRs can live?

Yes. Pretty much. Also by claiming VT we know that you do not have a town PR, i.e. you are either VT or scum. This makes you a better lynch target than anyone else on paper, because we can be sure not to lynch a PR.

I read you as town from this, but that doesn't make it good play. And for the record: It will never work in the future.

Why will I need to do it again? If people have reads like you, I should be safe. And how do you know I'm not a PR who is lying?

Lying as Town is generally considered to be just about always bad. It's probably less bad in this setup than average since we know what PRs we have. But it's still generally not advised.

So if you are a Vanilla Townie, it is bad to claim to be the Doctor, for example?

Yes that would definitely be bad.

[Roadrunner7671]

You know what? It got someone to unvote from me. So, thank you for the advice, but I still claim to be a vanilla townie. Why would I want to get killed by scum? So that PRs can live?

Yes. Pretty much. Also by claiming VT we know that you do not have a town PR, i.e. you are either VT or scum. This makes you a better lynch target than anyone else on paper, because we can be sure not to lynch a PR.

I read you as town from this, but that doesn't make it good play. And for the record: It will never work in the future.

Why will I need to do it again? If people have reads like you, I should be safe. And how do you know I'm not a PR who is lying?

Lying as Town is generally considered to be just about always bad. It's probably less bad in this setup than average since we know what PRs we have. But it's still generally not advised.

So if you are a Vanilla Townie, it is bad to claim to be the Doctor, for example?

Yes that would definitely be bad.

And why?

[Jimmmmm]

You know what? It got someone to unvote from me. So, thank you for the advice, but I still claim to be a vanilla townie. Why would I want to get killed by scum? So that PRs can live?

Yes. Pretty much. Also by claiming VT we know that you do not have a town PR, i.e. you are either VT or scum. This makes you a better lynch target than anyone else on paper, because we can be sure not to lynch a PR.

I read you as town from this, but that doesn't make it good play. And for the record: It will never work in the future.

Why will I need to do it again? If people have reads like you, I should be safe. And how do you know I'm not a PR who is lying?

Lying as Town is generally considered to be just about always bad. It's probably less bad in this setup than average since we know what PRs we have. But it's still generally not advised.

So if you are a Vanilla Townie, it is bad to claim to be the Doctor, for example?

Yes that would definitely be bad.

And why?

Imagine you were the Doctor and someone else claimed Doctor. You would know they were lying, and counterclaim them to try to get them lynched.

As well as having their powers, PRs also get to be either ICs or create a 1 Town/1 scum pair, either of which are generally good for Town. This only works if we take claims seriously as either truthful or scum.

[yuma]

RR did you read any of the previous games here. I am not saying you have to but I would suggest it. Probably should have suggested it earlier. A short newbie game would be ideal.

Chairs came off the worst from that whole exchange

[Ichimaru Gin]

This is the least Faust thing that this Faust has ever Fausted.

This.

Is this RR's first game also?

I actually like a vote: Haddock at this point. Something I hadn't thought of earlier was I can easily see newbie scum trying to get town points for projecting concern about quicklynches or something.
In my first scum (and in general) game, I recall playing up my newbieness to the point of garnering suspicion for it. I legitimately had a lot of questions and felt confused by stuff though, not sure what (if anything) I would have done differently if I'd been town my first game.