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[silverspawn]

Vote Count 3.4

Awaclus (1): yuma
yuma (1): Awaclus
Twistedarcher (1): Jimmmmm
gkrieg13 (1): chairs
chairs (1): ashersky

Not Voting (2): Twistedarcher, gkrieg13

No-Lynch (1): UmbrageOfSnow

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 3 ends at Oct 05, 06 PM forum time. That is in 4 days and 3+ hours.

[yuma]

Awaclus (1):[/b] yuma
yuma (1): Awaclus
Twistedarcher (1): Jimmmmm
gkrieg13 (1): chairs
chairs (1): ashersky

K... here is something maybe worth thinking about:

For everyone voting, if the person you are voting for is scum, who do you think are the two other players that are most likely to be partners. Doesn't necessarily mean you are calling a scumteam, but I have found it to be enlightening at times... and at other times completely worthless depending on the circumstances...

So for me if Awaclus is scum who do I think his partners most likely are?

UoS voted for him Day1, as did Jimmmm. Both votes were L-4 or 5ish...

UoS also voted for him day2, early on just after me. chairs also voted for him with that kinda unusual vote, that put him to L-3. TA also voted him putting him at L-2 and kept it there even when WW put him to L-1. Significantly it was UoS who left that wagon and then went over to WW instead.

And then UoS also voted for him Day3 but again left shortly after to no lynch, but based off his posts I think he would most want to lynch him today...

Interestingly the only two players who haven't voted for Awaclus are the two masons... Why you guys no-likey the awaclus lynch? So if they weren't claimed masons and if I weren't believing that claim, I might think they would be the most likely partners.

But otherwise, UoS sticks out to me. His leaving when he was at L-1 seems critical, even though UoS has said he wanted to lynch him earlier and today... right now those haven't really been critical moments.

The chairs vote seemed weird enough that I don't really think it was bussing. So I think he is probably out.

TA and Jimmmm are kinda a toss up at this point but I think I would pick Jimmmmm over TA due to TA's vote moving him to L-2. Actually that puts TA much less likely as he kept that vote through WW's L-1 (although leaving at that moment could have been deemed risky, but there was a lot going around at that time).

So I would say Awaclus' most likely partners are UoS and Jimmmmm... either that or ash and gkierg...

[yuma]

I will admit that I thought there would be more people that would be more likely to be Awaclus' partner going in. But really the only one that stands out is UoS. I thought it would be hard to eliminate people instead of hard to add them in....

[yuma]

And I guess vote: no lynch as it looks like we are just going to time out anyways at this rate...

[gkrieg13]

Sorry I don't have my computer right now. I'll look at this more tomorrow

[gkrieg13]

ok here is chairs: (Disclaimer, I did this in print page mode to do an ISO by ctrl+f so I didn't find all of the quotes to post.)

he only has 34 posts.  This will be quick then. 

Based on yuma's writeup, we need the second mason to claim or we need to absolutely lynch gkrieg or faust today.

I obviously don't like this.  Especially first day. 

I'll be honest, I'm voting you for information.

This is the only information he gives for voting thus far.

He kinda goes all over the place with his reads.  He says the scummiest players are WW, Awaclus, Faust, pps, TA. on D1

Then comes out D2 saying this

I'm actually feeling mild town on Awaclus, because this feels more like town!Awaclus than scum!Awaclus.

He then votes for Awaclus when his playstyle is being annoying.

He then votes for me and talks more about the masons.

So you think Ash would be the one to fakeclaim Masons, and he clearly was pushing gkrieg to claim on Day 1, but you don't think we gain anything by seeing a Mason get NKed?

You misunderstand his good point.

We no lynch with 1 scum left in 4 alive because scum kills off a potential mislynch and that helps remaining down by reducing the odds of a mislynch.

Here, chairs is saying we have a lynch pool of VTs today and a no lynch doesn't change that because all the VTs will survive the night.  So the no lynch doesn't change anything.

I understand that logic, except chairs doesn't think all the VTs will survive the night, which makes it valuable.  Unless he means TA will die, and again, that has value.

See, I actually think TA dying doesn't gain us any value. It still provides the possibility that the Masons are scum (again, no offence guys, but if anybody was gonna fakeclaim that it'd be you). It still leaves all the VTs open as possible third scum.

Thanks Yuma.  I didn't have time to do that, and it helps.

@Gkrieg: is that logic related to your preferences?

I'm going to try to look at me, TA, chairs, and Hydrad's reads later today.  It could be that Hydrad's reads were better, so how they're different could matter.  If someone gets to this before me, I will not be sad, but I'll get to it eventually.

I'm excited to see what you come up with here.

Then he defends lynching TA.

So my summary of this is he is my top lynch candidate until I read TA tomorrow.  His possible partners are TA, Awaclus, Jimmmmm (he never mentioned anything about him), UoS (same as Jimmmm).  Yuma doesn't seem as likely to me.  I think the strongest partner interactions are TA and Awaclus though.

Other strong reason is that ash is voting for him.

vote: chairs

[yuma]

I'll be honest. If that didn't come from someone I think is likely a Mason I would probably move my vote over to gkrieg. guess that shows that scummy≠mafia. or does it?

It seems like the whole basis of the case is that chairs isn't quite as willing to go with the idea that the masons are confirmed town... which, honestly I am kinda starting to feel a little bit more and more as this day goes on.

yeah, I am completely and totally on board with the no-lynch idea at this point. I want to force the mafia to make a decision.

[yuma]

also... I would suggest an unvote in the event that you are wrong it would be really silly to lose to a triple hammer (which while unlikely isn't out of the realm of possibility)

especially as I think we should no lynch today

[Jimmmmm]

especially as I think we should no lynch today

With 8 people, I agree.

Vote: no lynch

[Awaclus]

I'll just chime in to say that I've been reading along and thinking about things even though I haven't had much to say yet. I'm fine with no lynch, and if we do lynch someone, yuma > chairs > other VTs. I think TA might be scum too, but he might get killed if he's not, so I don't want to lynch him yet.

[yuma]

I'll just chime in to say that I've been reading along and thinking about things even though I haven't had much to say yet. I'm fine with no lynch, and if we do lynch someone, yuma > chairs > other VTs. I think TA might be scum too, but he might get killed if he's not, so I don't want to lynch him yet.

Then vote no lynch. Saying you are fine with it means squat. And saying you are thinking about stuff means even less.

[yuma]

especially as I think we should no lynch today

With 8 people, I agree.

Vote: no lynch

Great, but in the meantime, why did you want to lynch TA?

[chairs]

vote: no lynch.

Maybe I'll be wrong and Mafia will lynch someone that makes a difference to our thinking tomorrow.

[chairs]

kill, rather.

[Awaclus]

I'll just chime in to say that I've been reading along and thinking about things even though I haven't had much to say yet. I'm fine with no lynch, and if we do lynch someone, yuma > chairs > other VTs. I think TA might be scum too, but he might get killed if he's not, so I don't want to lynch him yet.

Then vote no lynch. Saying you are fine with it means squat. And saying you are thinking about stuff means even less.

I also considered just not posting that post, but I thought it would be better to express that I'm still playing this game since I hadn't posted anything in a while.

[yuma]

I'm still playing this game ... I hadn't posted anything

Huh? That is a weird way to play the game that completely revolves around posting.

Would be like trying to play dominion but never drawing any cards.

[chairs]

I'm still playing this game ... I hadn't posted anything

Huh? That is a weird way to play the game that completely revolves around posting.

Would be like trying to play dominion but never drawing any cards.

I want to play this deck. Then I'll never have to complain about drawing crappy cards!

[Twistedarcher]

vote: no lynch

[ashersky]

I got prodded after only 36 hours.

It's been a busy few days.

[ashersky]

I'd like a full popsquiz from everyone before we end the day.

[yuma]

I'd like a full popsquiz from everyone before we end the day.

This is hard, cause everything is kinda dependent upon whether or not you and gkierg are masons. If I make that assumption:

Then...
Townie
TA
chairs/Jimmmm
UoS
Awaclus
Scummy

If you two aren't scum then I think most likely partner is TA as that is the only way that there would only be one-non T and I think the only place that you two would be comfortable taking the risk of claiming masons. (TTTTTT or TTTTT) compared to (TTT or TTTT).

I don't know how to really put those two together...

[yuma]

I'd like a full popsquiz from everyone before we end the day.

and people will need to do this fast. TA's vote put us at 5 no-lynch votes so we are in twilight right now.

[Twistedarcher]

I'd like a full popsquiz from everyone before we end the day.

UoS
Masons
Chairs
Jimmmmm
Awaclus
Yuma

[Twistedarcher]

I'd like a full popsquiz from everyone before we end the day.

also is this actually a good idea or does it just tell mafia who to kill?

[yuma]

I'd like a full popsquiz from everyone before we end the day.

UoS
Masons
Chairs
Jimmmmm
Awaclus
Yuma

I am scummy?

I feel like this is the first I have heard of that...