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[silverspawn]

How big is this game going to be? I ask because the more players, the larger the thread, and I can't commit to rereading a 75+ page thread multiple times throughout the course of the game. But if it's less than that, I'll gladly play.

13 minimum, perhaps bigger.

It's not that serious of a game considering the set up, so you won't have to reread as much.

what? since when does the seriousness of a game depend on the setup? It's a normal games, so it's serious.

[skip wooznum]

How big is this game going to be? I ask because the more players, the larger the thread, and I can't commit to rereading a 75+ page thread multiple times throughout the course of the game. But if it's less than that, I'll gladly play.

13 minimum, perhaps bigger.

It's not that serious of a game considering the set up, so you won't have to reread as much.

what? since when does the seriousness of a game depend on the setup? It's a normal games, so it's serious.

yes I assumed any normal game is supposed to be taken seriously. So I guess for now ill wait and see how many people join

[mail-mi]

No, I didn't say not taken seriously, I just mean a little less serious.

[silverspawn]

No, I didn't say not taken seriously, I just mean a little less serious.

well, okay. I disagree.

[Axxle]

/in 

[Axxle]

How big is this game going to be? I ask because the more players, the larger the thread, and I can't commit to rereading a 75+ page thread multiple times throughout the course of the game. But if it's less than that, I'll gladly play.

13 minimum, perhaps bigger.

It's not that serious of a game considering the set up, so you won't have to reread as much.

what? since when does the seriousness of a game depend on the setup? It's a normal games, so it's serious.

I think this needs to be rebranded as role madness (if that's still a thing)

[faust]

How big is this game going to be? I ask because the more players, the larger the thread, and I can't commit to rereading a 75+ page thread multiple times throughout the course of the game. But if it's less than that, I'll gladly play.

13 minimum, perhaps bigger.

It's not that serious of a game considering the set up, so you won't have to reread as much.

what? since when does the seriousness of a game depend on the setup? It's a normal games, so it's serious.

I think this needs to be rebranded as role madness (if that's still a thing)

The last Greater Idea Mafia was run as normal. But yeah, RMM would probably be a better fit.

[skip wooznum]

Alright I'll /in but im gonna out if this hits, oh, say, 16.

[Seprix]

/out

Going to be making my own game, want to make sure I have time.

[Joseph2302]

I'm back, /in.

[mail-mi]

Are people not playing this because of the set up? I have a few setups I want to try out, and I could just have a closed simple setup instead of the greater idea.

Or we can keep it to greater idea if people want that.

[skip wooznum]

Are people not playing this because of the set up? I have a few setups I want to try out, and I could just have a closed simple setup instead of the greater idea.

Or we can keep it to greater idea if people want that.

im up for whatever, as long as there aren't too many players

[hockeysemlan]

/in

[Joseph2302]

Are people not playing this because of the set up? I have a few setups I want to try out, and I could just have a closed simple setup instead of the greater idea.

Or we can keep it to greater idea if people want that.

im up for whatever, as long as there aren't too many players

Don't mind either way.

[Beyond Awesome]

I would like to play, but I work 10 hour shifts, hence my absence from Mafia. However, my first Mafia game was the first Greater Idea, and I had a blast the first time. Plus, full random is awesome.

[skip wooznum]

Have to /out. Terribly sorry, but I just won't be able to play. Best of luck filling this up though. Sorry again.

[faust]

/in

[mail-mi]

So, school is starting soon, and I won't be able to play in any games, much less moderating any. So, because of that, I am officially giving all modding privledges to UoS. He may want to start a new thread for it so he controls the OP.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Okay then.

Well this is an odd way to backdoor my way into modding my first game, but I'm happy to do it and I promise to do my best.

Would probably like to have someone co-mod though.

Anyway, I see a couple options for this game:
a) Keep it exactly as is, wait for it to fill up
b) An idea I had that I PMed Mail-mi about for running Greater idea with a smaller playercount, I'll post that below.
c) Some variation on the at-this-point-heavily-modified "Charge Me Up!" setup that I've been hashing out in the other thread
d) A totally different open setup, there are plenty I'd be happy to run.
e) A closed setup based on roles in the Greater Idea deck.

Don't worry about my time, I'm happy to put the time in for any of these.  What do you guys (people signed up, and people who would want to sign up) want?

I'll then also come up with some probably stupid theme to tack onto it, but mechanics come first IMO.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Here's the idea that I had for running Greater Idea with a smaller playercount:

We had rolled up 6 sets of Greater Idea hand-deals and were going to choose one that looked likely to produce balanced results, and then pick the next best one etc. if player choice became unbalanced btw.  It looks like there is always some set of choices that could lead to terrible setups, but some are more likely to produce problems than others.


Hey, so I've been thinking (dangerous, I might need to be stopped.)

If you want to run Greater Idea with 10 players or something, the big hurdles are that it's much less likely to create multiplayer scumteams, rather than multiple 1-player scumteams, and that multiball is pretty dang hard to balance at 10 players even if you were trying really hard, much less randomly.

So what if you ran it with a smaller playercount, and the modification that all non-3rd-party scum roles (Aliens/Werewolves/Mafia) would be on the same team?

The scum concentration in the deck might be a little high, but that could be fixed by pre-rolling some setups and choosing among them as we did before.  (Or just truncating the ones already rolled.)

It'd be fun to leave the names as they are, so an Alien, a Werewolf, and a Mafioso walk into a bar and plot the destruction of town.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Here are the 4 open setups that most appeal to me:

Duck, Duck, Goose: 3 goons vs 8-9 1-shot Paranoid Gun Owners

Follow the Cop... or not: Tracker, Doctor, Cop, Cop returns scum result regardless of truth if he was protected by the Doctor that night.

11 P.M.: Multiball: Goon + Watcher vs. Goon + Watcher vs. 6 VTs + Watcher.  First 2 VTs shot are bulletproof.

Paris Mafia: Vig, Watcher, 5 VTs vs. 2 Goons vs. 2 Mimes.  Mime team are jesters that end the game with a win if they are both lynched.  If either Mime is NKed, the other suicides.

If a closed setup, I'll run it by a couple people not on this site to help check for balance, and also with anyone who wants to co-mod.  Just because there are a lot of Watchers and Trackers in these open setups doesn't mean anything about a closed setup, I don't love the roles especially (although they are neater than cops), they just happen to be in a lot of these.

If you want, could try to design a closed setup using some of the more funny roles in the Greater Idea list.  Would still aim to make it a normal-ish game rather than RMM though.

[ashersky]

I'd play Paris.

[XerxesPraelor]

11 PM and Paris both sound fun.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I'd play Paris.

Reading up on previously run Paris games, the consensus seems to be that it's Mafia-sided.

Stealing from things others suggested and adding my own twist:

What if the Jesters are immune to MAFIA night kills (but die to vigs) and the town also has a universal backup?  Mafia learning who jesters are through kill-failure seems interesting to me, because they can't claim it without dying, but they can work against Jesters subtly that way.  Since Mimes have a factional roleblock but not a factional kill, at least Mafia don't know for sure.

EDIT:  A town UB introduces a breaking strategy whereby the watcher watches the Vig so Mimes can't RB him and scum can't kill him, and the UB takes over after he dies.

But Watcher allows for more creative use of the Mime factional roleblock than tracker would...

[scott_pilgrim]

I can help co-mod if you want.