WHAT TIME IS IT?
REREADING TIME
Pardon me if I am a bit worried. I have 4 people voting for me
That's convenient, I was about to ask how many votes you have, but it seems like I don't have to do that now.
Vote: Seprix
Awaclus second post. This is really, really bold if Seprix is scum.
Suppose you couldn't lynch WW and were forced to pick someone else. Who would that be?
My first instinct is skip, but I don't like lynching newbies on their first day, so I'd go with Awaclus. Completely under the radar, hasn't said anything of substance I can remember, and I do seem to recall that scum!Awaclus tends to be in the background, though I'd have to check.
First time someone mentions Awaclus accusatively. Teproc was pretty consistently on Awaclus, although he did prefer a WW lynch for most of the day and took a while to actually vote for Awaclus.
Awaclus and WW, you guys haven't weighed in on the Mail-mi wagon. What do you think of it?
Not a huge fan of it, but I could do it if there's nothing better. I think it's better than WW at least.
Interesting. Not sure what to think of this.
Okay then let's see.
Vote: Awaclus
Second vote on Awaclus, after Hydrad's placeholder vote. I think this looks pretty good for WW.
Vote: Awaclus
Comes at a time of low activity, when the viable lynches were mail-mi and WW.
Would scum!awaclus be this uninterested in this game? (Or do we think he's pretending to be uninterested?)
After fourth vote on Awaclus. This looks a little bit bad.
Okay then let's see.
Vote: Awaclus
WW seems to like pursuing "safe" lynches. I'm moving back to liking a WW lynch.
Doesn't look like it. vote: WW
Why is Awaclus a safe lynch?
He's a lurker.
Same, Awaclus has 4 votes on him, WW only one (Teproc).
It's not an easy lynch if there's resistance!
Still a safe vote. Scum cares less about pushing mislynches super hard than about appearing active and towny.
So what's an unsafe vote?
L-1?
Only two more votes to get Awaclus to L-1! Look! It's unsafe, and therefore unequivocally townie!
Yeah, not defending Awaclus here. I was saying voting someone when they're L-1 is an unsafe vote. :p
In other news, Awaclus has a quickly growing wagon; neglects to respond. More at 11.
Perhaps he is not online at the moment.
Or the last couple days of moments.
Yes, that seems to be a problem.
I shouldn't be online right now. I'm in college, writing a paper before class. :p
This looks bad for Seprix. He is trying to defend Awaclus in the most inconspicuous way.
Can we just vote: awaclus and get rolling? I want to see what N1's NK will be already so we can work with it D2.
L-2. This is pretty nuts if chairs is scum. It makes him look pretty bad right then and Awaclus wasn't yet guaranteed to get lynched. Although he does switch his vote quickly to Seprix in quite a flimsy way, after Teproc's reread.
Awaclus I kind of want to policy lynch because if he's town then he's not being helpful. But again, it's the easy day one lynch, and I still like lynching WW more.
PPE: I'm pretty sure I've seen Awaclus as lurky scum. Wasn't he scum in flavorless?
The first part of this post is just horribly scummy; Awaclus had 4 votes on him at that point. The second part is weird for scum!ADK though. I would expect him to move to Seprix, if anything (although I guess they could be scumpartners). Mmm...
vote: Awaclus
L-1 I think. Wait no, chairs switched so it's only L-2.
It takes altogether too long for Teproc to vote for Awaclus, considering his previous posts about him, but I am still willing to give town points. He reread a town and a scum game, noticed that it could go both ways, and decided to vote for Awaclus anyway.
This quote from RMM 24 caught my eye (he was town there.)
- can you explain exactly what it is from your scum meta which you fail to replicate as town? I've heard you saying that you're easily found at as scum a bunch of times, but never understood why.
2) Well, I don't particularly try to replicate my scum meta when I'm town. Anyway, I always feel enormous pressure to make sense and explain everything as scum. Even in Blarnia Mafia where I somehow got away with it, I explained all of my votes and reads unless the reasons were very clear without an explanation. I obviously do not feel any pressure to explain anything at all when I'm town.
When I read this, I got to thinking: he seems hyper aware of this, and in this game it looks to me (and this is where I need input from people who've actually played with him a bunch rather than skimmed some games) that he's been explaining and defending himself even less than usual.
I'm postulating that he's overcompensating for his known scumtell.
Thoughts?
PPE: 4
This comes right after Teproc's vote (but there's a PPE). This is also pretty much getting Awaclus in the coffin. This, together with today's level of activity (unnecessary if he is scum) pretty much guarantees that UoS is town.
I think it's pretty likely, actually. I can hammer if you'd like, I'm down for an Awaclus lynch.
Man, Awaclus-Seprix interactions just keep going back and forth. Awaclus was down at 4 votes, but I am not sure Seprix was following that closely, he probably thought he would actually be hammering. Could be done just for the towncred though.
Awaclus isn't a terrible lynch but he's not my favorite.
He tends to be pretty passive regardless of alignment. Which is a bad way to play but unfortunately doesn't indicate much about his alignment here.
He tends to be pretty passive regardless of alignment. Which is a bad way to play but unfortunately doesn't indicate much about his alignment here.
So you think his play here is no more or less passive than his other games?
He's maybe more passive here than usual. As I said, he's certainly not the worst lynch. I'm still holding out for WW a little, though.
Again! He even specifically attacks the basis of the case on Awaclus! Then he drops it when pressured.
Unrelated, the more tight-lipped Awaclus gets/feels, the more I want to lynch him. This feels a lot like how I reacted to suspicion in D1 of HP Mafia.
Still hovering at 4 votes, and chairs once again puts pressure on Awaclus. Yeah, I don't think I want to lynch chairs. Not today, anyway.
Man, I think it's great that Awaclus was at 4 votes for so long. It's that point where it can go both ways, so vote switching is really informative.
Again, am I going to lynch or not? It's looking worse and worse for Awaclus.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I proudly present, Seprix. Right after final-nail-on-the-coffin UoS's case.
Again, I haven't had the time to reread Awaclus, but while UoS is really persuasive, the case against Awaclus is still just that he is lurking. Lurker lynches are bad in D1, because if he flips town, we have next to nothing. I would totally be for an Awaclus lynch for D2 (assuming nothing better comes up from the flips), because he has earned it many times over, but I don't think I want to lynch him today.
Just for the record, here is my defense, with Awaclus at 5 votes and Seprix asking to hammer.
Wow yeah I could definitely lynch awaclus today. Scum read is skyrocketing.
After Awaclus just starts sprouting nonsense.
VT.
Well, I'm ending this facade. :/
vote: Awaclus
Yeah, ok, whatever. Seprix really waited until the last possible moment to vote for Awaclus.
Yeah, intent to hammer. We're still pretty early so I'll give people a chance to jump in and give last thoughts but anyone who states intent to play anti-town should be lynched as a matter of course. And awaclus is way too self-aware here for my liking.
Same here.
Didn't Hydrad start this whole thing by throwing his vote on Awaclus as a placeholder?
Frankly, at this point this is reaching too-scummy-to-be-scum levels.
I don't think scum!Awaclus means town!WW. I do think town!Awaclus heavily implies scum!WW.
Weeeeeird.
And, you know, what are your reads in general ? On the off chance that you're Morgrim!Awaclus, give us that at least.
Awaclus - obvtown
Teproc - towny
Hydrad - null
Joseph - Innocent Child
Witherweaver - slightly suspicious
skip wooznum - null
A Drowned Kernel - slightly suspicious
Seprix - scummy
mail-mi - null
UmbrageOfSnow - towny
chairs - scummy
pacovf - towny
This is absurd. @Awaclus, you dont want to tell us why you think chairs is scum. Can you tell us why you don't want to tell us why you think chairs is scum?
Well, besides getting lynched for the scum tell, there's also the reason that I think people's reactions when they're being voted without an explanation outside of RVS can be extremely valuable. It's not working now because nobody's taking it my vote seriously so chairs isn't probably feeling a lot of pressure from it, but it has worked in the past. Also, later in the game, it can be beneficial for making NKs more difficult for scum — they don't know what's the reason why I'm voting for them or how convinced I actually am, and sometimes that information could be very important.
are there any reasons that don't assume your survival through day 1?
I actually like this post! I don't think newbie!scum!skip writes this.
Oh I thought Seprix's vote was the hammer for some reason. I'm fine with vote: awaclus, people have said what they need to.
His previous post was intent to hammer, after Seprix's vote. I think this could be a thinly disguised "let's just cut conversation here, we've lost enough already".
And of course, not a single post by mail-mi anywhere near this.
Woooooooo that was long. Off to read WW's wagon, I think there is a very good chance he is town, so it should be informative. I will give my reads and vote after that.