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Author Topic: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Game Over, Town wins!)  (Read 126191 times)

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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #625 on: June 23, 2015, 05:46:15 pm »

I find Seprix's actions here a little questionable.

Cool. :) I guess an Awaclus/WW scumteam isn't unreasonable.

If Awaclus flips scum I'm putting on my IC flag and strutting it around like Freddy Mercury performing live.

When I flip town, are you going to put on your confirmed scum flag and strut it around the same way, too?
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #626 on: June 23, 2015, 05:47:55 pm »

I don't think scum!Awaclus means town!WW. I do think town!Awaclus heavily implies scum!WW.

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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #627 on: June 23, 2015, 05:48:37 pm »

I do agree with WW that Seprix is pretty scummy here, though. I could lynch him if nobody else wants to lynch chairs.

You're going to have to say more about Chairs.    Bussing for your partner's towncred because you know you're getting lynched is not going to cut it.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #628 on: June 23, 2015, 05:49:05 pm »

I don't think scum!Awaclus means town!WW. I do think town!Awaclus heavily implies scum!WW.

Hi I'm Chairs and I like to get things backwards.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #629 on: June 23, 2015, 05:49:33 pm »

I don't think scum!Awaclus means town!WW. I do think town!Awaclus heavily implies scum!WW.

Huh, I would probably say the reverse, at face value.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #630 on: June 23, 2015, 05:50:03 pm »

I find Seprix's actions here a little questionable.

Cool. :) I guess an Awaclus/WW scumteam isn't unreasonable.

If Awaclus flips scum I'm putting on my IC flag and strutting it around like Freddy Mercury performing live.

When I flip town, are you going to put on your confirmed scum flag and strut it around the same way, too?

Nah I'm going to analyze your wagon.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #631 on: June 23, 2015, 05:50:22 pm »

Why are we doing Awaclus? Also, he's fakeclaimed VT as a PR before, so it's an option to consider.

PPE:4 (I think, on phone so counting is harder)
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #632 on: June 23, 2015, 05:51:23 pm »

Why are we doing Awaclus? Also, he's fakeclaimed VT as a PR before, so it's an option to consider.

PPE:4 (I think, on phone so counting is harder)

Really ? Are we at the point that we don't lynch town because they might be lying ? Think about that for a second.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #633 on: June 23, 2015, 05:51:49 pm »

Why are we doing Awaclus? Also, he's fakeclaimed VT as a PR before, so it's an option to consider.

PPE:4 (I think, on phone so counting is harder)

Read through my exchanges with him today and tell me how we can justify not lynching him.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #634 on: June 23, 2015, 05:52:00 pm »

I don't think scum!Awaclus means town!WW. I do think town!Awaclus heavily implies scum!WW.

Hi I'm Chairs and I like to get things backwards.

Of course he does, he's scum.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #635 on: June 23, 2015, 05:52:31 pm »

I don't think scum!Awaclus means town!WW. I do think town!Awaclus heavily implies scum!WW.

Hi I'm Chairs and I like to get things backwards.

Of course he does, he's scum.

LEt's entertain you for a second. Your perceived scumteam is what ? Chairs/WW and ?
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #636 on: June 23, 2015, 05:53:54 pm »

Why are we doing Awaclus? Also, he's fakeclaimed VT as a PR before, so it's an option to consider.

PPE:4 (I think, on phone so counting is harder)

Read through my exchanges with him today and tell me how we can justify not lynching him.

I think it's a lot harder to justify lynching me.

I don't think scum!Awaclus means town!WW. I do think town!Awaclus heavily implies scum!WW.

Hi I'm Chairs and I like to get things backwards.

Of course he does, he's scum.

LEt's entertain you for a second. Your perceived scumteam is what ? Chairs/WW and ?

Not necessarily WW, although it could be him. Probably more like chairs/Seprix and then someone.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #637 on: June 23, 2015, 05:54:16 pm »

And, you know, what are your reads in general ? On the off chance that you're Morgrim!Awaclus, give us that at least.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #638 on: June 23, 2015, 05:57:46 pm »

I don't think scum!Awaclus means town!WW. I do think town!Awaclus heavily implies scum!WW.

This is kind of interesting.  I'm wondering if Chairs is trying to goad me into getting off the Awaclus wagon to push a scum!me argument.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #639 on: June 23, 2015, 05:58:59 pm »

This is absurd. @Awaclus, you dont want to tell us why you think chairs is scum. Can you tell us why you don't want to tell us why you think chairs is scum?
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #640 on: June 23, 2015, 06:04:04 pm »

I don't think scum!Awaclus means town!WW. I do think town!Awaclus heavily implies scum!WW.

This is kind of interesting.  I'm wondering if Chairs is trying to goad me into getting off the Awaclus wagon to push a scum!me argument.

I mean, realtalk, goading people is what I've been trying to do throughout D1. I think we've got a lot of really good stuff to comb through for D2 because of it, even if it means I end up getting mislynched.

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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #641 on: June 23, 2015, 06:06:12 pm »

And, you know, what are your reads in general ? On the off chance that you're Morgrim!Awaclus, give us that at least.

Awaclus - obvtown
Teproc - towny
Hydrad - null
Joseph - Innocent Child
Witherweaver - slightly suspicious
skip wooznum - null
A Drowned Kernel - slightly suspicious
Seprix - scummy
mail-mi - null
UmbrageOfSnow - towny
chairs - scummy
pacovf - towny

This is absurd. @Awaclus, you dont want to tell us why you think chairs is scum. Can you tell us why you don't want to tell us why you think chairs is scum?

Well, besides getting lynched for the scum tell, there's also the reason that I think people's reactions when they're being voted without an explanation outside of RVS can be extremely valuable. It's not working now because nobody's taking it my vote seriously so chairs isn't probably feeling a lot of pressure from it, but it has worked in the past. Also, later in the game, it can be beneficial for making NKs more difficult for scum — they don't know what's the reason why I'm voting for them or how convinced I actually am, and sometimes that information could be very important.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #642 on: June 23, 2015, 06:08:32 pm »

And, you know, what are your reads in general ? On the off chance that you're Morgrim!Awaclus, give us that at least.

Awaclus - obvtown
Teproc - towny
Hydrad - null
Joseph - Innocent Child
Witherweaver - slightly suspicious
skip wooznum - null
A Drowned Kernel - slightly suspicious
Seprix - scummy
mail-mi - null
UmbrageOfSnow - towny
chairs - scummy
pacovf - towny

This is absurd. @Awaclus, you dont want to tell us why you think chairs is scum. Can you tell us why you don't want to tell us why you think chairs is scum?

Well, besides getting lynched for the scum tell, there's also the reason that I think people's reactions when they're being voted without an explanation outside of RVS can be extremely valuable. It's not working now because nobody's taking it my vote seriously so chairs isn't probably feeling a lot of pressure from it, but it has worked in the past. Also, later in the game, it can be beneficial for making NKs more difficult for scum — they don't know what's the reason why I'm voting for them or how convinced I actually am, and sometimes that information could be very important.
are there any reasons that don't assume your survival through day 1?
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #643 on: June 23, 2015, 06:09:19 pm »

Unexplained votes have value, yeah, but you have to explain them eventually, otherwise there's 0 accountability for votes, which is great for scum.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #644 on: June 23, 2015, 06:11:11 pm »

are there any reasons that don't assume your survival through day 1?

Can't think of any.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #645 on: June 23, 2015, 06:20:02 pm »

are there any reasons that don't assume your survival through day 1?

Can't think of any.
and at this point in the proceedings, after claiming vt, you don't think you're going to get lynched? (Side point: why did you say before that you were confident you weren't getting lynched today? I took that as softclaiming a PR. sorry I can't find the wuote right now)
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #646 on: June 23, 2015, 06:20:11 pm »

Vote Count 1.9

Awaclus (6): Hydrad, Witherweaver, UmbrageOfSnow, Teproc, chairs, Seprix {L-1}
Witherweaver (1): A Drowned Kernel
Teproc (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (1): pacovf
chairs (2): Awaclus, Joseph2302

Not Voting (1): skip wooznum

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends at Jun 28, 3 PM Forum Time.

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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #647 on: June 23, 2015, 06:20:46 pm »

I'm also not giving scum a free mislynch because we're not lynching me today.
here it is
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #648 on: June 23, 2015, 06:30:58 pm »

wow what theres been like 3 pages since last night?

I'll be reading them for a bit.
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Re: M64: Pony-Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #649 on: June 23, 2015, 06:31:11 pm »

(Side point: why did you say before that you were confident you weren't getting lynched today?

Because I'm super towny.
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