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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1200 on: July 21, 2015, 11:15:58 pm »

You mean the "he isn't acting scummy so he must be scum point? Or maybe I didn't read the case well enough
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1201 on: July 21, 2015, 11:18:38 pm »

And that whole "positioning on the xp wagon" thing....I would need to go back and reread the day again, but I dint recall blending into that wagon too much.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1202 on: July 21, 2015, 11:50:37 pm »

And that whole "positioning on the xp wagon" thing....I would need to go back and reread the day again, but I dint recall blending into that wagon too much.

Ok, got home and went back and checked.  I was on XP the entire day, until TA did some super scummy stuff and I switched to him. 

XP (3):  chairs, UoS, Seprix
Seprix (3):  gkrieg13, Ghacob, WW
hockeysemlan (3):  Hydrad, silverspawn, EgorK
2.7 (6): efhw, XP, TA, mail-mi, hockey, faust
TwistedArcher (1):  2.7


Not Voting (1): IG

So XP is now as viable as Seprix or Hockey.  Just 4 more guys.

And is Ichi V/LA or what's the deal there?  (GET YOUR VOTE SOMEWHERE)

This is where the votes were when I switched back to XP.  And you are trying to call me scummy for that?  I was wrong about TA, I was wrong about EgorK yesterday.  You are wrong about me right now.

If anything, I think I want to revisit some of the scummy stuff from D1, namely how TA and EFHW ended the day
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1203 on: July 22, 2015, 06:23:08 am »

This is where the votes were when I switched back to XP.  And you are trying to call me scummy for that?  I was wrong about TA, I was wrong about EgorK yesterday.  You are wrong about me right now.

actually yes, because I think having a serious vote on TA this game is scummy no matter what. I mean, if you're town, you can have a different opinion. I'm just not sure if you really do, or if you're just scum who was picking someone to push.

It also doesn't really invalid the final wagon.

And 'I am allowed to be wrong about stuff, you are wrong about me now' is a defense every scum can always use against this argument. Like, literally always.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1204 on: July 22, 2015, 07:45:32 am »

Vote: e

sounds good to me.
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For anyone else, such a statement would be a scum tell.  For Hydrad, it's simply a tell that you're reading something from Hydrad.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1205 on: July 22, 2015, 10:05:38 am »

#1111 Why do people assume double vote?
You can definitely read #1111 through the light of him being a hidden voter though. But regardless of the hidden voter (which is a shot in the dark), he's a lurker who hasn't had much content thus far into the game.
Yeah, I don't like this at all. It feels very twisty.
Why would I play dumb if I was really the double voter and thus knew the mechanics of my own role? I would know that the evidence would clearly point to the existence of a double voter because of the disparity between voters and the vote count number. To me, this looks like a forced interpretation that doesn't actually hold up under examination.

PPE: Is this the first game we've played together? I overreact...like a lot--but it's something I've been working on. This is actually a good development imo. It's helping me to get more involved in the game.

I know you've been lurking and busy, but I don't think that should you excuse you from all suspicion. If you notice from my re-read, I didn't find you scummy from the lack of content, I just pointed out that it made it pretty difficult to read you.

The only defense I've seen is that "If I were town, and doublevoter, I'd say something" and "I read my PM, so I know I'm town". But guess what, I haven't read your PM, and you'd say you were town if you were scum too! So that's really a null and void defense. Saying that "I'm town, you're wrong" does nothing for me when I'm voting you. Now you're thinking I'm scummy for voting you, which I guess is fine but it doesn't do anything to make me want to unvote you.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1206 on: July 22, 2015, 10:05:51 am »

I'd lynch E still

Vote: E
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1207 on: July 22, 2015, 10:17:18 am »

Count me in. vote: Seprix

Why are you voting Seprix?

He's been a scumread since Day 1, and my reasons are similar to the ones you gave.  1. jumps on wagons 2. no scumhunting (I don't think you mentioned that one) 3. defensiveness.

But I made the original case on e, so I'm not opposed to that lynch.  Need to look at the vote count.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1208 on: July 22, 2015, 10:21:16 am »

I'm fine with Seprix, mail-mi, or e.  Looks like e is the most likely at this point though.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1209 on: July 22, 2015, 10:22:58 am »

I'm fine with Seprix, mail-mi, or e.  Looks like e is the most likely at this point though.

Actually they both have 4? votes at this point.  I'm not very good at counting in the morning it seems.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1210 on: July 22, 2015, 11:56:15 am »

I'm a bit concerned about ending the day too soon.  I want to lynch e, but with the possible double vote, I'd be potentially putting him at L-1, so I'll hold off for a bit.  Getting a townread on silver. Would like to hear more from Ghacob and WW.  I don't have any sense of them at all.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1211 on: July 22, 2015, 11:59:43 am »

vote: e

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1212 on: July 22, 2015, 12:00:03 pm »

I think L-1.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1213 on: July 22, 2015, 12:00:55 pm »

No, it's L-2.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1214 on: July 22, 2015, 12:15:01 pm »

I'm a bit concerned about ending the day too soon.  I want to lynch e, but with the possible double vote, I'd be potentially putting him at L-1, so I'll hold off for a bit.  Getting a townread on silver. Would like to hear more from Ghacob and WW.  I don't have any sense of them at all.

vote: e

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1215 on: July 22, 2015, 12:16:57 pm »

Vote Count 3.3:

Seprix (3): 2.7, hockeysemlan, EFHW
gkrieg13 (1): Ghacob
mail-mi (1): gkrieg13
2.7 (5): silverspawn, mail-mi, Hydrad, TwistedArcher, Seprix

Not Voting (3): witherweaver, IG, chairs

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day Three ends at 4:15 a.m. on July 26.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1216 on: July 22, 2015, 12:18:38 pm »

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1217 on: July 22, 2015, 12:21:42 pm »

I'm a bit concerned about ending the day too soon.  I want to lynch e, but with the possible double vote, I'd be potentially putting him at L-1, so I'll hold off for a bit.  Getting a townread on silver. Would like to hear more from Ghacob and WW.  I don't have any sense of them at all.

vote: e

Do you have any caution Seprix?

Nope. :)

I knew it was L-1 or L-2, and really, if e isn't scum at this point, we pretty much has little chance of winning, because we keep gravitating towards him or someone else, and the someone else ends up always being town.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1218 on: July 22, 2015, 12:22:34 pm »

I'm a bit concerned about ending the day too soon.  I want to lynch e, but with the possible double vote, I'd be potentially putting him at L-1, so I'll hold off for a bit.  Getting a townread on silver. Would like to hear more from Ghacob and WW.  I don't have any sense of them at all.

vote: e

Do you have any caution Seprix?

Nope. :)

I knew it was L-1 or L-2, and really, if e isn't scum at this point, we pretty much has little chance of winning, because we keep gravitating towards him or someone else, and the someone else ends up always being town.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1219 on: July 22, 2015, 12:24:14 pm »

I knew it was L-1 or L-2, and really, if e isn't scum at this point, we pretty much has little chance of winning, because we keep gravitating towards him or someone else, and the someone else ends up always being town.

yeah... i mean that's kinda true.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1220 on: July 22, 2015, 01:06:38 pm »

E-lynch is happening, Yey!

Vote: e
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1221 on: July 22, 2015, 01:07:30 pm »

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1222 on: July 22, 2015, 01:45:19 pm »

Here for a sec. what's the case on e again?
Sorry I'm on phone so hard to find it.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1223 on: July 22, 2015, 02:59:55 pm »

Here for a sec. what's the case on e again?
Sorry I'm on phone so hard to find it.

As far as I know there isn't one?

it was EFHW that did a full reread post thing but they even conceded that nothing was particularly scummy, and that it was more preference than anything else (correct me if I'm wrong)

And I haven't seen anything other than that?

The argument for an e lynch as I see it is so that people stop talking about him, which I think is a really poor reason

Hey, yet another opinion I've had since early and nothing has really happened to change my view on!
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1224 on: July 22, 2015, 03:00:31 pm »

Oh wait, our killed town found him scummy apparently, that's something
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