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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1000 on: July 16, 2015, 12:59:42 am »

I think  vote: mail-mi right now. I feel he has been very lurky and I haven't been getting a town vibe from him recently. I'm not that excited about the current wagons though. I think there are better lynches.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1001 on: July 16, 2015, 02:12:09 am »

Vote Count 2.5:

2.7 (4): EFHW, hockeysemlan, silverspawn, TA
TwistedArcher (3):  2.7, Seprix, mail-mi
EFHW (1): witherweaver
mail-mi  (1): gkrieg13
EgorK(1):. UoS

Not Voting (5): IG, Ghacob, Hydrad, EgorK, chairs

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 2 ends on July 17 at 9:00 p.m.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2015, 04:04:50 am by ashersky »
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1002 on: July 16, 2015, 02:16:24 am »

although it doesn't matter much i think TA is both on e and unvoted on the votecount.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1003 on: July 16, 2015, 03:20:37 am »

If we're going to lynch a lurker/non-voter I would like to try Ghacob. He might be less Active due to IRL-reasons, but this isn't how I remember him play as town.. this is the perfect game to be newb!scum on. 
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1004 on: July 16, 2015, 07:10:13 am »

For the moment I have time only for small reread (other commitments are lagging as well because of hospital and stuff), so I'll do Hydrad now
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1005 on: July 16, 2015, 07:40:36 am »

#60 RVS vote EFHW for lurking
#139 Puts chairs slight town over townslip
#148 Gonna read Mistborn series
#177 Pledges to give out day pass for the next poster unless he is very scummy
#179 Gives it out to seprix
#187 explains PPE
#195 replies to e vote on him, says he had buddying sperix, not e
#316 added his take on faust vs hockey
#353 do not anticipate voting gkrieg D1
#458 lots of posts, reading
#462 thinks silver making sense, votes hockey
#463 thinks that 2 days remaining is not much
#464 cheers up gkrieg, thinks he doing better then himself in his first game
#465 prefers hockey over Ghacob
#467 read list. Mostly nulls and he's aware of it
#528 cheers up Seprix
#716 glad that hockey wagon starts again
#803-804 10 mins remaining. e vs XP. Ok with hammering XP, asks whether he should wait
#809 hammer
#814 says survivor bad for town

D2
#828 thinks about why XP lied about alignment
#830 thinks that lynching lover kills lovee
#834 thinks that flavor of kill is normal for mistborn
#929 thinks that it is between e and TA, leans TA
#931 most people are null
#991 argues with EFHW about major wagons
#1002 comments about error in vote count

Well, very weird. Not much stances taken, a lot of cheering and chatter on one hand. Hammer on the other hand. I need to think about it a bit more
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1006 on: July 16, 2015, 09:20:09 am »

I think we have 7 people either not voting or the only ones on a wagon.  This is concerning to me, since it is the pattern we would get if both wagons were town.  The scum players can hang back and let town lynch itself.  If they were both scum, I'd expect a 3rd wagon to have developed some time ago.

this is my fear. i have a scumread on e. but if he's town this is exactly how i'd expect d2 to play out. and it makes me want to lynch a lurker, esp one who jumped on either myself or e with flimsy reasoning. time to go see who that is

I know you are agreeing with me, but this feels scummy.

sorry? i hope you're not falling into the trap that when i phone post it reads scummy,cuz i know that is a thing.

Seriously? it's scummy b/c 1. if this was your fear, why haven't we heard from you? 2. if you have been scumhunting, you would have some scumreads by now, and wouldn't need to go looking for people from scratch. 3. "It's time to go see who that is" is the kind of self-conscious thing scum says.  And 4. now it's scummier b/c you didn't get back to us - it couldn't take too long to check out 4 people, one of whom just voted a few posts ago.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1007 on: July 16, 2015, 11:29:53 am »

So....1 day left today.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1008 on: July 16, 2015, 11:53:40 am »

I think  vote: mail-mi right now. I feel he has been very lurky and I haven't been getting a town vibe from him recently. I'm not that excited about the current wagons though. I think there are better lynches.

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Also. Sorry, but it's gonna get worse. I'm leaving tomorrow for like a week. I'll still have phone access though
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1009 on: July 16, 2015, 12:08:07 pm »

Post!

Let's tryy...

vote: chairs
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1010 on: July 16, 2015, 12:12:17 pm »

Why chairs? Gut?

He did have that whole deal yesterday, but I think he cane out of it townie
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1011 on: July 16, 2015, 12:27:45 pm »

Post!

Let's tryy...

vote: chairs

Reasons?
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1012 on: July 16, 2015, 12:53:55 pm »

argh, one day? where did all the time go?

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1013 on: July 16, 2015, 12:54:20 pm »

people I'm fine with lynching today: mail-mi, EgorK, Hydrad, Ghacob, WW, IG.
I don't really want to lynch one of the more active players. 
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1014 on: July 16, 2015, 12:55:22 pm »

Hey, sorry for the suspense.  It mostly wasn't intentional.  I paused to see if Egork would say anything yesterday, then my day got mostly taken up by nonsense and distractions until I had to go home and only browse through the gf's phone.

I'll be on today until 3 hours before deadline, after that I can still make small posts from said not-my-phone until deadline if votes need changing.

EgorK coming up.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1015 on: July 16, 2015, 01:00:52 pm »

After mulling this over, I think that while TA a scummy, a lurker might actually be worse. I want to see UoS's reasons behind EgorK and read some lurkers before coming to a final decision though.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1016 on: July 16, 2015, 01:01:26 pm »

Hey, sorry for the suspense.  It mostly wasn't intentional.  I paused to see if Egork would say anything yesterday, then my day got mostly taken up by nonsense and distractions until I had to go home and only browse through the gf's phone.

I'll be on today until 3 hours before deadline, after that I can still make small posts from said not-my-phone until deadline if votes need changing.

EgorK coming up.

...And look at that. I didn't even read this. I will be waiting.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1017 on: July 16, 2015, 01:12:55 pm »

EgorK

Okay, so I made an error in my post count yesterday, at the time he had only posted 18 times (I was using Ctrl + F: username: Egork and subtracting the pre-game posts and forgot about the doubling on his name.  There may also be other errors in the post count, but I noticed this when I started rereading my shame pool.)

Of Egork's at-the-time 18 posts, only 6 had any game content at all (#111, 145, 203, 440, 441, and 557).  That's absurd.  And those posts aren't all that great on taking stances on anything either.

Here's his initial position on chairs' townslip:
About chairs - idk. It can be real, it can be fabricated, even if fabricated, it can be for both alignments

Which was the same as my position.  Nothing wrong with this IMO.  But that's why it surprises me so much how his position changes in light of Faust's post against chairs:

Re: Chairs. The thing I find most problematic about the "slip" is that he mentions "Suvivor-aligned". And yet the standard VT PM does not say that town is "Survivor-aligned". That's what makes it look bad in my opinion.

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Welcome to Mistborn Mafia, XXXXXXX. You are a Rebellious Skaa (Vanilla Townie).

The Survivor's speeches have gotten to you. You feel invincible, ready to overthrow evil and free your people. You'll just have to be very convincing...

You have no powers at night. Your vote is your only weapon.

You win when all threats to the Survivor are defeated.


Good enough to vote: chairs

Vote: chairs in before someone says there is no such thing as scum slip

Also guys making too much out of Seprix making too much out of chairs then town slip

Also that was rather strange vote on faust from XP. I just don't follow the reasoning

We can't possibly have this many VTs not paying attention to the idea that PMs could be different.  EgorK places the 4th vote on Chairs, and along with Hockey, one of the votes that seems to give the wagon momentum.  Besides the timing, his conviction that this is a scumslip seems at odds with his earlier position.

Finally, I really don't like his vote on Hockey:
The good thing with an e-lynch at this point is the fact that Faust pushes it so hard that if he's wrong he might be a good candidate for D2.

Vote: hockeysemlan

SS and Hockey had just gone back and forth about this and Hockey responded pretty well.  Well enough that Faust moved his vote back to e.

So basically it's
1: Inconsistent behavior regarding the language of chairs' PM.  I don't think he knows what a town PM looks like.

2: Tendency to jump on wagons at opportunistic moments to give them momentum while just sheeping the people making them.

3: Not seeming to follow one train of logic, willing to sheep me on Faust being scum and sheep Faust on Hockey being scum shortly thereafter.  Without any real resolution to the earlier thing, and on a pretty damn weak case.  I don't think he has any real reads.  He's just sheeping people who start wagons.

4: HARDCORE lurking (including before and after his hospitalization.  Sorry you're sick by the way.)

5: Lots of his actual posts are content-free
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1018 on: July 16, 2015, 01:14:43 pm »

And finally, I'm really not a fan of the way EgorK studiously says nothing about my vote on him.  Not addressing it at all, while posting a bunch to suddenly lurk less.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1019 on: July 16, 2015, 01:21:43 pm »

Well, you convinced me. vote: EgorK
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1020 on: July 16, 2015, 01:25:06 pm »

Sold. vote: EgorK

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1021 on: July 16, 2015, 01:27:48 pm »

I really wish there was more I could say. I really do. But UoS really said it all, I think.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1022 on: July 16, 2015, 01:28:34 pm »

I've been going back and forth a lot on my things, and it occurs to me I should just do a read list rather than worry about where to put my vote first

1. mail-mi- Who are yo
2. Ichimaru Gin
3. Witherweaver
4. EgorK
5. 2.7
6. silverspawn
7. Hydrad
9. Chairs
11. hockeysemian
12. Seprix
13. TwistedArcher
15. gkrieg13
16. EFHW
17. UmbrageOfSnow


scummy
Umbrage
gkrieg
TA
I don't think we're at the point yet where I should vote a wagon just to get a lynch through, although when that happens TA will be my preference.
I'm still really not seeing the e thing so if I follow on that that would really just be trust in the other people, although faust 'emself admitted that the case on him is subjective(?)

I was really thinkin' chairs would be a good bet as he's done absolutely nothing this game, but then


Had a lot of thoughts, still unorganized, the good news is that I am convinced by Umbrage, the best case I've seen, much better than what are basically my feelings on things
vote: egork
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1023 on: July 16, 2015, 01:31:39 pm »

...I really should be posting more, I should stop acting like how I did my first game, feeling as if I have no content, and not wanting to post because I feel like I have no content

I'm convinced, it's time to be an active member
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1024 on: July 16, 2015, 01:33:04 pm »

That's good enough for me. And he's on my list vote: EgorK
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