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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #675 on: July 08, 2015, 07:26:40 am »

and you're implicitly white knighting, too.

actually scratch that, you aren't. and this:

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I like your reasoning around him though, I want to test if it's true even if your not voting for him in the end. I think he very well might end up scum. 

is kind of a towny thing to say, too. okay, maybe you aren't scum after all.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #676 on: July 08, 2015, 07:41:38 am »

and you're implicitly white knighting, too.

actually scratch that, you aren't. and this:

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I like your reasoning around him though, I want to test if it's true even if your not voting for him in the end. I think he very well might end up scum. 

is kind of a towny thing to say, too. okay, maybe you aren't scum after all.

Thankyou. I would never whiteknight. Not att all partly because I don't know what it is..
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #677 on: July 08, 2015, 07:56:05 am »

this was the read

words are hard

I'm willing to give gkrieg a chance seeing as it's his first day, not just for policy, but because it'd be a shame to lynch confused!town, and we can always lynch new!scum tomorrow.

The other thing that I was trying to say was that my top scumreads(read: not strong) were voting for gkrieg, which would mean either:
-a very early bus (not very likely)
-gkrieg is an easy town target D1 (hope my words make sense with that, as it's important)(more likely)

culminating to a null read on gkrieg, I'll make a decision on whether I want to lynch him or not not today

this was the post I think

but I actually find Ghacob townier upon reread.

uhm. so whom do we lynch now? WW maybe?

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #678 on: July 08, 2015, 07:56:41 am »

and you're implicitly white knighting, too.

actually scratch that, you aren't. and this:

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I like your reasoning around him though, I want to test if it's true even if your not voting for him in the end. I think he very well might end up scum. 

is kind of a towny thing to say, too. okay, maybe you aren't scum after all.

Thankyou. I would never whiteknight. Not att all partly because I don't know what it is..

it's a scumm tell you're much likely to fall into if you don't know what it is.

Let us not tell him!

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #679 on: July 08, 2015, 08:00:52 am »

and you're implicitly white knighting, too.

actually scratch that, you aren't. and this:

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I like your reasoning around him though, I want to test if it's true even if your not voting for him in the end. I think he very well might end up scum. 

is kind of a towny thing to say, too. okay, maybe you aren't scum after all.

Thankyou. I would never whiteknight. Not att all partly because I don't know what it is..

it's a scumm tell you're much likely to fall into if you don't know what it is.

Let us not tell him!

How mean!! :O

And yeah, I know now (my scummates told me. encryptor ftw!) and no I didn't as you said, who would I even supposedly whiteknight here?

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #680 on: July 08, 2015, 08:01:06 am »

Ugh. I shouldn't joke..
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #681 on: July 08, 2015, 08:12:36 am »

Ugh. I shouldn't joke..

that joke gave you towncred on my end, actually

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #682 on: July 08, 2015, 09:01:52 am »

And

Vote: TA

PPEs

This doesn't fit with your earlier read at all.

Maybe something happened between my earlier read and my vote on TA.  Like, TA being scummy.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #683 on: July 08, 2015, 09:14:18 am »

I don't like the e wagon, specifically almost everyone on it.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #684 on: July 08, 2015, 09:48:47 am »

And

Vote: TA

PPEs

This doesn't fit with your earlier read at all.

Maybe something happened between my earlier read and my vote on TA.  Like, TA being scummy.

Well, what was so significant that it changed your earlier town read?
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #685 on: July 08, 2015, 09:49:51 am »

I think I'm back on Vote: e actually. I agree that hockey's reaction wasn't scummy.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #686 on: July 08, 2015, 09:53:13 am »

And

Vote: TA

PPEs

This doesn't fit with your earlier read at all.

Maybe something happened between my earlier read and my vote on TA.  Like, TA being scummy.

Well, what was so significant that it changed your earlier town read?

Hopping back and forth from e and Seprix while maintaining that UoS was scummy.

Admittedly, I misread some of the hopping and his UoS analysis makes more sense than I originally thought. 
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #687 on: July 08, 2015, 10:14:56 am »

The good thing with an e-lynch at this point is the fact that Faust pushes it so hard that if he's wrong he might be a good candidate for D2.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #688 on: July 08, 2015, 10:16:10 am »

The good thing with an e-lynch at this point is the fact that Faust pushes it so hard that if he's wrong he might be a good candidate for D2.

Vote: hockeysemlan

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #689 on: July 08, 2015, 10:17:07 am »

The way Seprix left his vote on Geekrig after the point at which he said he couldn't remember why he was voting there and not XP, and now says he forgot he wasn't on XP several real life days later has me thinking he's more likely to be scum.  I believe that's what happened.

So why didn't he change his vote?  Because he was afraid of getting called out for moving his vote around too much.  Which is something he was getting some pressure for before and has in other games.  I think that paranoia speaks to scum!Seprix.

Is Seprix a player you've all just given up on trying to read one way or the other and written off as "Seprix always looks scummy"?  Because that's how a lot of the arguments for and against him feel.

Anyway, I'll reread e later today.  I won't be around at deadline (maybe could steal my girlfriend's phone and ignore her to play mafia on it... so yeah, I won't be around.)  If I'm going to switch my vote to e or anywhere else, I'll have done it by around 6 PM tonight.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #690 on: July 08, 2015, 10:19:47 am »

And I really don't think Hockey was setting up mislynches so blatantly.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #691 on: July 08, 2015, 10:23:27 am »

Rereading e again makes me less sure that he's town, but still doesn't give me the feeling that he is scummier than Seprix.  They might both be scum though.  I'm going to leave my vote where it is and hope that the people who are voting not on any kind of wagon will vote in a meaningful place by the deadline.  Although it would be great to get a majority before the deadline because a lot of us (including myself) won't be around.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #692 on: July 08, 2015, 10:28:33 am »

The good thing with an e-lynch at this point is the fact that Faust pushes it so hard that if he's wrong he might be a good candidate for D2.

Vote: hockeysemlan

Ok. Lesson learned. Planning votes ahead is a scummy thing to do at this stage. Didn't know really.

And please notice my might :(
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #693 on: July 08, 2015, 10:31:51 am »

And please notice my might :(

I bow before your might.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #694 on: July 08, 2015, 10:37:08 am »

And I really don't think Hockey was setting up mislynches so blatantly.

I agree.  He seemed to be considering contingencies "out loud", which is a fairly common thing for newer town players to do. 

This:

Ugh.. Everything is so random..

The good thing with an e-lynch at this point is the fact that Faust pushes it so hard that if he's wrong he might be a good candidate for D2. I don't understand why you would tunnel someone this much as town, (though I understand that it is a quite naive statement. Good towns do anything, I guess) at least not D1.

Sounds very much like newer town logic.

This:

There some good points against e, though, and I wouldn't mind to test if Faust is right, after alll. Seprix is the obvious choice today and we can always take him tomorrow. In my mind, both e and seprix can be scum.   

Vote: e

is scummy when taken out of context. 
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #695 on: July 08, 2015, 11:01:43 am »

The way Seprix left his vote on Geekrig after the point at which he said he couldn't remember why he was voting there and not XP, and now says he forgot he wasn't on XP several real life days later has me thinking he's more likely to be scum.  I believe that's what happened.

So why didn't he change his vote?  Because he was afraid of getting called out for moving his vote around too much.  Which is something he was getting some pressure for before and has in other games.  I think that paranoia speaks to scum!Seprix.

Is Seprix a player you've all just given up on trying to read one way or the other and written off as "Seprix always looks scummy"?  Because that's how a lot of the arguments for and against him feel.

Anyway, I'll reread e later today.  I won't be around at deadline (maybe could steal my girlfriend's phone and ignore her to play mafia on it... so yeah, I won't be around.)  If I'm going to switch my vote to e or anywhere else, I'll have done it by around 6 PM tonight.

Actually, BS. I thought I voted for XP.

vote: XP

That's where my vote has been for some time in my mind. Also, you're reading way too much into my play, because you're completely wrong.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #696 on: July 08, 2015, 11:03:54 am »

In fact, I have this suspicion that UoS might be scum. But he's pushing discussion way too much to kill D1.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #697 on: July 08, 2015, 11:08:39 am »

Totally believe that at this point you thought you'd voted for XP.  But why didn't you vote for him in the post where you said you were no longer sure why you weren't voting for him?  Or in the like 3 days since then?

And why don't you want people to read into your play?  You just want to be lynched every game until people give up and never lynch you, until you're scum too often and people lynch you every game again?  It's more fun for you and everyone else if we try to actually read intent into what you're doing and try to figure out your mindset.  And it's more likely to help town win.

This "no one can possibly read me" schtick is not helpful to town.  And it's a great defense for scum.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #698 on: July 08, 2015, 11:22:40 am »

Totally believe that at this point you thought you'd voted for XP.  But why didn't you vote for him in the post where you said you were no longer sure why you weren't voting for him?  Or in the like 3 days since then?

And why don't you want people to read into your play?  You just want to be lynched every game until people give up and never lynch you, until you're scum too often and people lynch you every game again?  It's more fun for you and everyone else if we try to actually read intent into what you're doing and try to figure out your mindset.  And it's more likely to help town win.

This "no one can possibly read me" schtick is not helpful to town.  And it's a great defense for scum.

I'm still convinced that I voted for XP after the Graig fiasco before today. And I said you're reading too much into my play. Nice straw man.

vote: UoS
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #699 on: July 08, 2015, 11:45:46 am »

Show me the post where you voted if you're somehow convinced Ash missed it.

I admit, I see like 3 places where you probably should have voted for XP, but you were too paranoid to move your vote.
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