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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #700 on: July 08, 2015, 11:53:03 am »

I guess I didn't vote for XP. I really did think I did though. :/
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #701 on: July 08, 2015, 11:54:08 am »

I thought I was voting for XP. I guess not.

There's also this post from before you confronted me to prove that I did in fact think I voted for XP.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #702 on: July 08, 2015, 12:03:48 pm »

The way Seprix left his vote on Geekrig after the point at which he said he couldn't remember why he was voting there and not XP, and now says he forgot he wasn't on XP several real life days later has me thinking he's more likely to be scum.  I believe that's what happened.

So why didn't he change his vote?  Because he was afraid of getting called out for moving his vote around too much.  Which is something he was getting some pressure for before and has in other games.  I think that paranoia speaks to scum!Seprix.

I don't know man. That seems a bit constructed. I don't really buy that scum!Seprix acts paranoid. Mainly because I think that Seprix, as either alignment, just isn't overly concerned with how his actions are perceived. This whole argument did not make me feel better about you.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #703 on: July 08, 2015, 12:04:07 pm »

I thought I was voting for XP. I guess not.

There's also this post from before you confronted me to prove that I did in fact think I voted for XP.

Proves nothing.  But it's interesting that you didn't vote at that point.  Why not?
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #704 on: July 08, 2015, 12:04:54 pm »

I thought I was voting for XP. I guess not.

There's also this post from before you confronted me to prove that I did in fact think I voted for XP.

Proves nothing.  But it's interesting that you didn't vote at that point.  Why not?

Try voting on a phone. It's annoying.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #705 on: July 08, 2015, 12:07:50 pm »

I think that Seprix, as either alignment, just isn't overly concerned with how his actions are perceived.

I think he absolutely cares about how he's perceived.  Doesn't mean I don't think he'd be inconsistent as fuck as either alignment.  But I'm postulating that he'll do some things differently as a reflection of his alignment.  Admittedly, you've very likely played with him more than I have.  So what do you look for to differentiate scum vs town Seprix?
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #706 on: July 08, 2015, 03:55:58 pm »

I can totally believe that someone would think they had voted, but hadn't.

I think seprix arguing that point is something that he would not do as scum.

That being said, I will vote seprix for survival reasons of necessary. But I think we can do better than that. Like TA. That is a voting history that is scummy.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #707 on: July 08, 2015, 04:07:06 pm »

I still have yet to hear from anyone on my wagon why I am such a great lynch. I expect that there are plenty of town on the wagon because of that. Scum wouldn't just gut read a case as much as town.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #708 on: July 08, 2015, 04:09:37 pm »

I still have yet to hear from anyone on my wagon why I am such a great lynch. I expect that there are plenty of town on the wagon because of that. Scum wouldn't just gut read a case as much as town.

I concur. I want reasons. Because reasons. For reasons.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #709 on: July 08, 2015, 04:16:33 pm »

I still have yet to hear from anyone on my wagon why I am such a great lynch. I expect that there are plenty of town on the wagon because of that. Scum wouldn't just gut read a case as much as town.

I'm afraid of you. That's my reason. I read you mostly like I did in our first game and well.. I read you wrong as (super)town and I think that might be the case this time too.

No, I don't read you as super-town this game. You're awfully null though and with this much attention towards you.. that's scummy.

Meta-argument isn't optimal to use, but you are indeed very hard to read. I need to try this to get a grip on you.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #710 on: July 08, 2015, 04:19:24 pm »

I still have yet to hear from anyone on my wagon why I am such a great lynch. I expect that there are plenty of town on the wagon because of that. Scum wouldn't just gut read a case as much as town.

I'm afraid of you. That's my reason. I read you mostly like I did in our first game and well.. I read you wrong as (super)town and I think that might be the case this time too.

No, I don't read you as super-town this game. You're awfully null though and with this much attention towards you.. that's scummy.

Meta-argument isn't optimal to use, but you are indeed very hard to read. I need to try this to get a grip on you.

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Aren't you new? I think you simply being afraid of e is not good enough.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #711 on: July 08, 2015, 04:35:35 pm »

I still have yet to hear from anyone on my wagon why I am such a great lynch. I expect that there are plenty of town on the wagon because of that. Scum wouldn't just gut read a case as much as town.

I'm afraid of you. That's my reason. I read you mostly like I did in our first game and well.. I read you wrong as (super)town and I think that might be the case this time too.

No, I don't read you as super-town this game. You're awfully null though and with this much attention towards you.. that's scummy.

Meta-argument isn't optimal to use, but you are indeed very hard to read. I need to try this to get a grip on you.

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Huh?  I don't understand.  He's null, but people wanting to lynch him makes him scummy?
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #712 on: July 08, 2015, 04:40:15 pm »

I'm leaving. I'm happy with where my vote is.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #713 on: July 08, 2015, 05:40:26 pm »

Vote Count 1.10:

XP (1):  chairs
Seprix (4):  gkrieg13, Ghacob, UoS, WW
hockeysemlan (3):  Hydrad, silverspawn, EgorK
2.7 (6): efhw, XP, TA, mail-mi, hockey, faust
TwistedArcher (1):  2.7
UmbrageOfSnow (1):  Seprix

Not Voting (1): IG

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on July 9 at 12:01 a.m. forum time.

That's in ~6.5 hours.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #714 on: July 08, 2015, 05:42:36 pm »

Oh yikes, I don't want to lynch e like at all!
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #715 on: July 08, 2015, 05:55:59 pm »

Vote: XP

Let's try this again.  My reread has me disliking XP even more, for basically the same reasons.

And no way am I lynching e.  Or Hockey.  Or TA.  Or myself.

Seprix is still scummy, but I'm finding XP even scummier for the reasons we've been over before about his defending chairs while voting him, but also for how he switches his vote back to chairs in #262 right after e calls him out for jumping off the chairs wagon for geekrig.

Faust remains my top scumread, but I'm pretty much alone in that.

Oh, I thought I was still voting you[e]. I was going to say that chairs's wagon wasn't so important I shouldn't pressure lurkers, but he's lurking too.

vote: chairs

Also not a fan of the exasperation about my pressing the PM issue again.  Obviously it was annoying him, but it reads to me like caught scum frustration, rather than pressured town frustration.

It turns out I'll be able to briefly get online around 9 P.M., and if too few people are joining me on XP, I'll switch back to Seprix at that time, as he's much more likely to be scum than e.

Like seriously, reread gives me a townread on e.  Lynching e is bad.

Seprix, want to come lynch XP with me?
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #716 on: July 08, 2015, 06:04:50 pm »

Oooo the hockey wagon is starting up again! I still like him the most I think. I should be around for deadline though
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #717 on: July 08, 2015, 06:09:50 pm »

Vote: XP
Seprix, want to come lynch XP with me?

I can agree with this. And if XP is scum, this post alone pretty much makes you town in my eyes, so sure.

Vote: XP
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #718 on: July 08, 2015, 06:12:10 pm »

I'll be probably online near deadline, but I think we might as well just lynch XP rather than wait.

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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #719 on: July 08, 2015, 06:14:02 pm »

XP (3):  chairs, UoS, Seprix
Seprix (3):  gkrieg13, Ghacob, WW
hockeysemlan (3):  Hydrad, silverspawn, EgorK
2.7 (6): efhw, XP, TA, mail-mi, hockey, faust
TwistedArcher (1):  2.7


Not Voting (1): IG

So XP is now as viable as Seprix or Hockey.  Just 4 more guys.

And is Ichi V/LA or what's the deal there?  (GET YOUR VOTE SOMEWHERE)
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #720 on: July 08, 2015, 06:14:30 pm »

I don't love the people leaving Seprix, and I'm definitely not lynching XP.

Chairs and mail-mi get scum points for point towards a 1 scum in Me/E situation. Quotes below.

for some reason I thought XP was the big wagon, not Seprix, lol.

After the latest interactions, though, I think e or TA might be the scum.

Back for a short bit before I go for the rest of the week.

I like a vote: 2.7 or a vote: TA right now. Don't like UoS. Geekrig (since no one is spelling your name right :P) seems more newbie town PR to me now than scum. Seprix...eh, he seems like me, in the "always scummy" category, and so seems just like normal.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #721 on: July 08, 2015, 06:15:07 pm »

I honestly don't know what to make of Seprix, his OMGUS on UoS is pretty ridiculous, but I don't know that it makes him scummier?
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #722 on: July 08, 2015, 06:16:00 pm »

My take on viable lynches:

E=Seprix > Hockey >>> XP

I'm out for dinner, will be back probably 1-2 hours before deadline. I'll be here though.
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #723 on: July 08, 2015, 06:17:31 pm »

So, what is Faust's stance on e?
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Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #724 on: July 08, 2015, 06:17:49 pm »

Hell, why is e bad TA?
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