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[Gromph]

Hi,

I will talk about a new card present in Adventure set.
That's card is : Messenger.
The first thing that I have think when I see this card: combo with Inn (Auberge in French)

I introduce myself. I am a French casual player. I apologize for the wrong turns of phrase that I may be. I have in my collection Intrigue, Cornucopia and Hinterlands.

Back to the combo (or not ?) Messenger + Inn:

The first thing I think that :

• I play Messenger
  Put my deck in my discard
  Buy a Province
  Buy an Inn
  
  Put 4 gold and messenger on deck (and redo)

It's really violent, but it doesn't work... 
Because Inn could only put Action card from discard.

Though, is that combination of these two cards is to throw ?

I think not...
First, you only needs to buy 1 Messenger
And to start the engines, to receives each turns that combo start to receive 1 Inn
Indeed, Messenger is a good card and Inn works with already other cards.

It's also important to see that there are two main possibilities:

• Reach 13 treasures, buy province and inn
  
• Reach 8 treasures, receives an Inn and buy a province (it works)

So let's talk about action cards that could complete the combo...

Gromph

[Zappie]

How about this:
Have 2 messengers, 6 mystics in the deck, and any amount of coppers/estate/curses.
To start off, play 1 messenger, buy a inn. Place the mystics and the 2d messenger in the deck.
Every other turn hereafter you can buy province + inn.

I think you can have 1 woodcutter instead of a 6th mystic.

or you can do this with 9 peddlers

[Gromph]

It can works with Village:


3 Poor House (+4 treasures) and 3 idiot village.
Play 3 times villages , Poor (+4) , Poor (+4) , Poor (+4) , Messenger (+2)

Or 4 actions that add 3 Treasures and 4 idiot village
Play 4 times villages, and 4 actions that gives 3 treasures like:

Or 6 actions that add 2 Treasures and 6 idiot village
Play 6 times villages, and 6 actions that gives 2 treasures like:

Village can be buy by the second effect of Messenger and why not the other card ?
Maybe too slow...

[nate_w]

The problem with these plans is that you need $26, not $13 to get province every turn. Remember that the cards you have in play will not be placed on top of the deck by Inn. So you need $13 in play to buy Inn/province and $13 out of play to top deck.

Seems a little slow. An engine with this money would be triple provincing.

[markusin]

With a source of +buy, this could be done with Chancellor (Chancelier) and Scavenger (Pilleur).

[Gromph]

The problem with these plans is that you need $26, not $13 to get province every turn. Remember that the cards you have in play will not be placed on top of the deck by Inn. So you need $13 in play to buy Inn/province and $13 out of play to top deck.

Seems a little slow. An engine with this money would be triple provincing.

I don't remember exactly the rule for the Inn.
You have right (even If I will check on my French rule book later)

  So Inn doesn't work well with Messenger.
Bad news...

The Inn could be shuffle but not "played action card"... 

Sorry for the topic

[Gromph]

Hi,

I have find a card with Messsenger + Inn will be okay:

Counting House

So,

Two messenger, one in hand
Two counting house
(several coppers)

Play a village (can be Inn)
Play messenger, put your deck in discard pile
Play counting house, gets 11 coppers ( ... )
By a province and an inn.

Put the second messenger and the second counting house, and a village on top of your deck.


It works ?

messenger help to get severals coppers...

[werothegreat]

http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Combo:_Chancellor_and_Stash

[jsh357]

These Messenger "combos" would work way better with Scavenger.  The unique part of Messenger is the on-buy effect, not the on-play.

[AJD]

These Messenger "combos" would work way better with Scavenger.  The unique part of Messenger is the on-buy effect, not the on-play.

It's also the only Chancellor variant with +buy.

[jsh357]

These Messenger "combos" would work way better with Scavenger.  The unique part of Messenger is the on-buy effect, not the on-play.

It's also the only Chancellor variant with +buy.

Yes, but in most games there is a +Buy that you could have shuffled in with Inn anyway.  I'm not saying Messenger is bad with Inn, but I don't see it as a particular combo.