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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1775 on: July 02, 2015, 11:57:10 am »

ashersky claimed to have been roleblocked (this day)... how does this fit into this theory?

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1776 on: July 02, 2015, 11:59:53 am »

ashersky claimed to have been roleblocked (this day)... how does this fit into this theory?

I thought that was punishment from the mod?

Ash, did you receive a PM from Faust that you were roleblocked today?  Or is it just that you were punished?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1777 on: July 02, 2015, 12:02:25 pm »

This is what he said:

I have a resurrection power, by the way, for anyone wondering if/when that was coming into play.

cool. can you resurrect Hydrad, Lekkit, or Ghacob?

I could have.  But scum!DD just roleblocked me.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1778 on: July 02, 2015, 12:02:58 pm »

I have a resurrection power, by the way, for anyone wondering if/when that was coming into play.

cool. can you resurrect Hydrad, Lekkit, or Ghacob?

I could have.  But scum!DD just roleblocked me.

Weird.

Ash: did you actually get confirmation of this from Faust, or just that DeDe said he was going to do so in-thread?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1779 on: July 02, 2015, 12:05:40 pm »

All I can guess is that Ash isn't actually roleblocked.  Or that this really is his PM I guess.  But why would he claim Willow/doctor then?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1780 on: July 02, 2015, 12:05:48 pm »

I have a resurrection power, by the way, for anyone wondering if/when that was coming into play.

cool. can you resurrect Hydrad, Lekkit, or Ghacob?

I could have.  But scum!DD just roleblocked me.

Weird.

Ash: did you actually get confirmation of this from Faust, or just that DeDe said he was going to do so in-thread?

DeDe gave him an item that prevents him from using powers.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1781 on: July 02, 2015, 12:07:56 pm »

I have a resurrection power, by the way, for anyone wondering if/when that was coming into play.

cool. can you resurrect Hydrad, Lekkit, or Ghacob?

I could have.  But scum!DD just roleblocked me.

Weird.

Ash: did you actually get confirmation of this from Faust, or just that DeDe said he was going to do so in-thread?

DeDe gave him an item that prevents him from using powers.

yeah, but he still said he had been roleblocked.

moreover, if he could resurrect town players, why did he agree to getting this item?

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1782 on: July 02, 2015, 12:09:19 pm »

I have a resurrection power, by the way, for anyone wondering if/when that was coming into play.

cool. can you resurrect Hydrad, Lekkit, or Ghacob?

I could have.  But scum!DD just roleblocked me.

Weird.

Ash: did you actually get confirmation of this from Faust, or just that DeDe said he was going to do so in-thread?

DeDe gave him an item that prevents him from using powers.

Okay, but did he actually receive said item, or was he responding to DeDe saying he was going to give him that item?

Because if he did receive that item today, that means there is another power active that can redirect item targeting at least.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1783 on: July 02, 2015, 12:10:31 pm »

moreover, if he could resurrect town players, why did he agree to getting this item?

Are items optional?  Or do you mean why he said "fine, give me the item" or whatever it was?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1784 on: July 02, 2015, 12:11:11 pm »

moreover, if he could resurrect town players, why did he agree to getting this item?
Or do you mean why he said "fine, give me the item" or whatever it was?
yeah, that

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1785 on: July 02, 2015, 12:35:24 pm »

Yeah I was going to bring that up. If ash did receive my item, then either that power wasn't used, or its used and doesn't work on items, or it was used by ash, or unbridge is lying. And if ash didn't get my item he seems to have implied he can resurrect a player. Let's do that.

If it wasn't used, then the item got intercepted, because ash should have gotten my item.

If it can't intercept items, then we have two potential powers right now.

If ash got my item, there's still the chance that was his PR and he just got it normally because the PR.


Also, if he didn't get the item, whoever did this can't take actions today so yay.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1786 on: July 02, 2015, 12:36:24 pm »

Someone definitely was given the item btw. I no longer have it.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1787 on: July 02, 2015, 12:42:00 pm »

Hell, ash may have said you gave him the item without checking his QT to be sure.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1788 on: July 02, 2015, 12:46:27 pm »

That could be, we have to wait for him to be sure.

I don't want us to rule out the possibility that this is actually ash's PR also.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1789 on: July 02, 2015, 01:06:28 pm »

Also, I can't watch today because I'm roleblocked tonight and today.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1790 on: July 02, 2015, 01:33:43 pm »

I think it's fairly safe to assume its a scum PR too, because a townie with that PR would have just claimed it and that they used it to avoid confusion.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1791 on: July 02, 2015, 01:44:22 pm »

Hell, ash may have said you gave him the item without checking his QT to be sure.

This was my thought.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1792 on: July 02, 2015, 01:45:58 pm »

If someone were to track/watch, would their targeting be redirected?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1793 on: July 02, 2015, 01:48:12 pm »

If someone were to track/watch, would their targeting be redirected?

Oh yeah, that's right.  So tracker would probably be useless since if the person whose PM I saw got a roleblocking item, they won't be visiting anyone.  Watcher, on the other hand, could confirm all the people that have used any targeting roles today, so that could be good for verifying some of the various claims, although maybe not worth it if it's a 1-shot or something.

As a bonus, it wouldn't matter who a watcher targetted.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1794 on: July 02, 2015, 01:50:28 pm »

Although DeDe, I don't think your ability would be useful here.  Wasn't thinking the redirect thing through all the way this morning when I got excited about this.

I do think your last ability would perhaps be useful tonight to shed some light on this time travel mechanic though.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1795 on: July 02, 2015, 01:51:51 pm »

ALTHOUGH, you could use your ability to verify that actions are being redirected, if you target someone you know used an action targetting a particular player.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1796 on: July 02, 2015, 01:53:55 pm »

Yeah, that could go a long way to clearing or incriminating Ash, at least as far as whether or not this role belongs to him.  So if you trust SS, for example, and target SS and don't get the expected item pass but see nothing or something weird, we know this ability was used last night.

Or if your masonbuddy used any actions, you could target him to be extra sure.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1797 on: July 02, 2015, 02:05:42 pm »

ALTHOUGH, you could use your ability to verify that actions are being redirected, if you target someone you know used an action targetting a particular player.

I have one of those. I can see if a night action has been redirected on one player. Who should I choose. Ash?

Have been trying to follow the discussion, but honestly it just goes over my head atm..
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1798 on: July 02, 2015, 02:09:26 pm »

ALTHOUGH, you could use your ability to verify that actions are being redirected, if you target someone you know used an action targetting a particular player.

I have one of those. I can see if a night action has been redirected on one player. Who should I choose. Ash?

Have been trying to follow the discussion, but honestly it just goes over my head atm..

If it's only a night action redirection, it would only be useful if you manage to pick out who the player was.  My guess, personally, is Awaclus, but that's a hunch.  If it can check if a day action has been redirected, than you should be able to choose literally anyone.  But Ash would work as well as any.

Might want to slowly reread the 4th ability I listed and reread with that in mind.  I keep getting a bit confused about it too, it's a weird ability.

But the fact that you have an ability that can tell whether or not abilities have been redirected would indicate to me that there is more than one ability that can redirect actions in this game.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1799 on: July 02, 2015, 02:10:23 pm »

Is it who an action is redirected onto or who it was redirected away from?
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