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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1700 on: July 01, 2015, 02:08:26 pm »

Yesterday I had a warning and hockey and I got a message that ash had been warned. Today I got punished.

Thanks for clearing that up.  Was it a separate infraction or a delayed punishment from the first thing?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1701 on: July 01, 2015, 02:08:44 pm »

Though I must ask: Awaclus, why didn't you give this to a mason?

I thought you might be a vig so I wanted you to think that vigging me will also kill you.

What? Why would he think that when you gave away the item that did that? What?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1702 on: July 01, 2015, 02:09:45 pm »

Yesterday I had a warning and hockey and I got a message that ash had been warned. Today I got punished.

Thanks for clearing that up.  Was it a separate infraction or a delayed punishment from the first thing?

Separate. I swore and used caps after my warning.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1703 on: July 01, 2015, 02:18:18 pm »

Separate. I swore and used caps after my warning.

And Ash said he got punished after the first thing?  Or did it look to you like Ash did anything worthy of being punished after the time when your warnings were issued?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1704 on: July 01, 2015, 02:29:03 pm »

Separate. I swore and used caps after my warning.

And Ash said he got punished after the first thing?  Or did it look to you like Ash did anything worthy of being punished after the time when your warnings were issued?

I mean I have my own opinion on this but I think it'd bring up fights and bring us back to a toxic environment. You can retread our posts back and forth and make up your own decision on if there was a punishment or if it was warranted, but let's just steer towards the game and not this.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1705 on: July 01, 2015, 02:30:44 pm »

Though I must ask: Awaclus, why didn't you give this to a mason?

I thought you might be a vig so I wanted you to think that vigging me will also kill you.

but... once you gave it to me, I would know that vigging you wouldn't kill me anymore. Also, how did you know I was a vig?

I thought the effect was permanent once a town player has held it. It isn't?

And I didn't know for sure, your posts at the time just made it seem likely.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1706 on: July 01, 2015, 02:33:38 pm »

Though I must ask: Awaclus, why didn't you give this to a mason?

I thought you might be a vig so I wanted you to think that vigging me will also kill you.

but... once you gave it to me, I would know that vigging you wouldn't kill me anymore. Also, how did you know I was a vig?

I thought the effect was permanent once a town player has held it. It isn't?

And I didn't know for sure, your posts at the time just made it seem likely.

Silver, is it permanent?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1707 on: July 01, 2015, 02:46:48 pm »

Was DeDe suspicious of Ash toward the end of the last Day?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1708 on: July 01, 2015, 02:51:01 pm »

Was DeDe suspicious of Ash toward the end of the last Day?
Or perhaps the better question (which is going to take me forever to get a good picture of reading) is who did people think the masons were scumreading toward end of Day, and how strong did it look like they were going to be pushing those people?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1709 on: July 01, 2015, 03:06:25 pm »

Okay, so WW's investigation of DeDe came after the mason claim.  And looking at the role PM more, scum seems unlikely, masons seem much more likely.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1710 on: July 01, 2015, 03:07:31 pm »

Okay, so WW's investigation of DeDe came after the mason claim.  And looking at the role PM more, scum seems unlikely, masons seem much more likely.

Specifically that 3rd ability seems very likely town to me.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1711 on: July 01, 2015, 03:13:44 pm »

Was DeDe suspicious of Ash toward the end of the last Day?
Or perhaps the better question (which is going to take me forever to get a good picture of reading) is who did people think the masons were scumreading toward end of Day, and how strong did it look like they were going to be pushing those people?

I for one did only scumread Egor D2, and I had a failed vote on him D1 too. Actually I haven't been hunting after somebody else really. Awa was scummy to all of us. I don't remember if DeDe were going after someone else D2, he voted egor eventually.

The interactions around my shield-power is somewhat of a key, I guess, and Ashersky really didn't like it (although it helped us me to figure out a scumlynch..) and due to that and his push for an Awa-lynch he our top scumread as masons.

Now everything got so heated and pretty ugly, but before that no one but Ash really doubted us, since mail-mi could confirm as an oracle there is masons in the game. If we're scum, mail-mi must be too and then there is 4 scum (and at least 1 survivor) in the game. Not very likely in my eyes. 
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1712 on: July 01, 2015, 03:22:57 pm »

Yeah you don't have to sell me on your claim Hockey, I was just talking about that and I believe you.

Reading this game is pretty tough though.

Do you have any idea why you didn't get NK'd?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1713 on: July 01, 2015, 03:27:20 pm »

Yeah you don't have to sell me on your claim Hockey, I was just talking about that and I believe you.

Reading this game is pretty tough though.

Do you have any idea why you didn't get NK'd?

I don't see scum killing us and making an IC. Seems a lot easier to let us wait it out and then use that to say we're scum, because we haven't died yet.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1714 on: July 01, 2015, 03:39:56 pm »

I was also foreshadowing being a cop in the karaoke bar QT N1, and outright told mail-mi N2.

Awaclus, is this in reference to you calling WW scum in the QT on N1?  Or is there an actual breadcrumb there somewhere?

Also, I'm not clear on how this protection thing works exactly, do we know if the hypothetical universal psychotrooper thing would get around the no-targetting protection?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1715 on: July 01, 2015, 03:42:25 pm »

Awaclus, is this in reference to you calling WW scum in the QT on N1?  Or is there an actual breadcrumb there somewhere?

At the time, I didn't know he was scum. The breadcrumb is the part where I said there's nothing in the mechanics of the QT that would confirm WW as scum.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1716 on: July 01, 2015, 03:46:45 pm »

Awaclus, is this in reference to you calling WW scum in the QT on N1?  Or is there an actual breadcrumb there somewhere?

At the time, I didn't know he was scum. The breadcrumb is the part where I said there's nothing in the mechanics of the QT that would confirm WW as scum.

Wait I thought you found out N1 he was scum?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1717 on: July 01, 2015, 03:47:45 pm »

Awaclus, is this in reference to you calling WW scum in the QT on N1?  Or is there an actual breadcrumb there somewhere?

At the time, I didn't know he was scum. The breadcrumb is the part where I said there's nothing in the mechanics of the QT that would confirm WW as scum.

Wait I thought you found out N1 he was scum?

I did. I don't get the result before the QT is locked, though.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1718 on: July 01, 2015, 03:48:12 pm »

Awaclus, is this in reference to you calling WW scum in the QT on N1?  Or is there an actual breadcrumb there somewhere?

At the time, I didn't know he was scum. The breadcrumb is the part where I said there's nothing in the mechanics of the QT that would confirm WW as scum.

Well I'm not scum, so something is up, either with you or your ability.  But if you didn't have your proposed investigation results at the time, how is your comment that WW isn't confirmed as scum breadcrumbing at all?

SS, Mail-mi, can you chime in here.  Does it look like a breadcrumb to you?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1719 on: July 01, 2015, 03:50:24 pm »

I think it is. It appears like a breadcrumb N1 and the. He directly said it N2 to mail-mi when he gave his power name
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1720 on: July 01, 2015, 03:50:57 pm »

Awa do you mind putting the direct win con of mail-mi
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1721 on: July 01, 2015, 03:51:27 pm »

I think it is. It appears like a breadcrumb N1 and the. He directly said it N2 to mail-mi when he gave his power name

Huh?  Can you read the N1 Caritas QT somehow?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1722 on: July 01, 2015, 03:53:47 pm »

Have we also considered the possibility of scum!umbrage and scum!awaclus? That seems like a possible gambit they could be playing, then again the plan would solve this and mail-mi could confirm survivor!awaclus tonight

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I think it is. It appears like a breadcrumb N1 and the. He directly said it N2 to mail-mi when he gave his power name

I'm going off what was posted about the QT here. Only someone in the QT N1 can confirm for sure, but based on the claims that's what I got

Huh?  Can you read the N1 Caritas QT somehow?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1723 on: July 01, 2015, 03:54:09 pm »

Messed up the quote but you can see what I meant
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1724 on: July 01, 2015, 04:01:58 pm »

Awa do you mind putting the direct win con of mail-mi

(paraphrasing again)

You win when all dangers to the Town have been removed, and there is one or more Town-aligned player left alive.
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