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[ashersky]

Now please lynch me.  I want to be done with this game and I've never actually quit a game before and don't want to start now.

I was having a terrible, terrible day IRL yesterday anyway and DD made it so much worse.  I just can't keep playing like this, it's horrible.

He is wrong about me.  I am not scum, and definitely not partners with Awaclus.

can't you replace out? I'm not so cool with lynching you so you are out of the game (there's resurrection and time travel too), but if you don't want to play anymore, that's fine.

You've got plenty of players in the game who just think I'm lying anyway.  If you replace me with another player, who's to say they won't just continue the tunnel there?

No, lynching me puts an end to the ridiculousness.

When the mod intervened yesterday regarding civility, I stood down.  I think it's clear I've worked hard not to flip out offensively again.  You might notice that other players have used all caps profanity at and about me.  I haven't.

I have not lied in my claim: I'm Willow, I am not scum, I can resurrect one player, and I am a doctor.

[ashersky]

I am not scum, and definitely not partners with Awaclus.

So you admit that the "I am not scum" part is more likely to be false than the "not partners with Awaclus" part?

Both are true.  You and I aren't partners (in the sense that DD keeps saying -- if you are town, we're on the same side).

I mean, if you are scum, we clearly aren't partners.
If you are survivor, we aren't partners, but we are working together whenever you are working against scum.
IF you are town, we're working together, which is sort of partners.

[Delirious Deleuze]

If he refuses to switch out lets lynch him then. He's lying.

Mail-Mi and WW both have corroborated that were town masons.

[ashersky]

Like, is anybody actually having fun at this point? I'm really enjoying the concept of the game we're playing, but it's just devolved to pettiness, which frankly might be the right scum play here or might even somehow be town v town, but it's just not fun to me.

I can tell, just from my role and from the names of those that have flipped, plus the flavor, that this setup is amazing, as we expected.  Faust has unfortunately been a bit snakebitten by unfortunate play.

I think lynching me out of the game helps get folks back on track.  I'm doing this for me, but also for the rest of town.  It's not like I like it, but it seems like the majority wants it.

[silverspawn]

let's just move on.

PoE:

2.71828.....
chairs - has helped mail-mi too much, plus the frustration today looks genuine.
Witherweaver
ashersky - uh let's not
hockeysemlan - mason
A Drowned Kernel - not keeping up is a town tell I think. Plus the mail-mi thing.
Awaclus - shooting > lynching
Delirious Deleuze - mason
mail-mi - townread. oracle is too helpful

if it was up to me, I could just lynch e and be done for today.

[Witherweaver]

I wish faust was playing... he could be a voice of reason to sort all this mess out

I don't really want to lynch ash... if he is  town, that doesn't prove anything.

I'm not scum, and it proves DD is "wrong" (which could just be wrong, but I think it's "wrong").  I've been the easy mislynch target for like three years.  At least when I'm actually scum, it's not a mislynch and I'm fine with it.

The problem is, I don't think DD is scum, I think he's just misplaying.

[silverspawn]

I have not lied in my claim: I'm Willow, I am not scum, I can resurrect one player, and I am a doctor.

yeah and I'm starting to believe you. I don't want to lynch town.

I'm also beginning to doubt our masons.

[ashersky]

If he refuses to switch out lets lynch him then. He's lying.

Mail-Mi and WW both have corroborated that were town masons.

You really need to read my posts.

I'm literally asking to be lynched.  I have voted for myself.  You clearly hate me, which is odd since this is the Internet and you don't even know me.  But this is clearly personal to you, and I would just as soon get out than continue this argument, which is adversely affecting everyone else.

Will I get immense satisfaction out of seeing you be so incredibly wrong?  Absolutely.  I'm only human, after all, not a saint.

But you chose this road for us, so I am exiting before we cause a crash that hurts anyone else as much as this has ended up hurting me.

[Delirious Deleuze]

If he refuses to switch out lets lynch him then. He's lying.

Mail-Mi and WW both have corroborated that were town masons.

You really need to read my posts.

I'm literally asking to be lynched.  I have voted for myself.  You clearly hate me, which is odd since this is the Internet and you don't even know me.  But this is clearly personal to you, and I would just as soon get out than continue this argument, which is adversely affecting everyone else.

Will I get immense satisfaction out of seeing you be so incredibly wrong?  Absolutely.  I'm only human, after all, not a saint.

But you chose this road for us, so I am exiting before we cause a crash that hurts anyone else as much as this has ended up hurting me.

You have been the one tunneling me.

Guys, he's just throwing this white knight slating himself parade to get sympathy. He is scum.

[silverspawn]

in fact vote: e ( I can change this if necessary )

- he's blending in
- he's not frustrated
- I have reason not to lynch almost everyone else (this is really the main argument)
- he's generally hard to figure out as scum, until he starts pushing me, in which case he's always scum, but he probably knows not to do that by now
- we really should lynch someone

[Awaclus]

I am not scum, and definitely not partners with Awaclus.

So you admit that the "I am not scum" part is more likely to be false than the "not partners with Awaclus" part?

Both are true.

But one is definitely true, while the other one is just normally true. I think this is a legit scum slip; people actually do this a lot when they're lying about something and telling the truth about something else while trying to sound as convincing as possible.

[silverspawn]

Guys, he's just throwing this white knight slating himself parade to get sympathy. He is scum.

there are few things in this game I am as sure of as I am that ash's frustration isn't faked.

does this make him town? not necessarily, but probably.

[chairs]

I could vote e.

in fact, vote: e. e has been the most forgettable person in the game for me right now.

[ashersky]

Reads list, for when I'm dead and you can trust them:

1. 2.71828.....

2.7 being this non-existent and uninvolved?  I feel like that's a town tell from him, although it's anti-town play.  We've been scum together before, he's definitely in it to win it when his text is red.

3. chairs

Town read all the way.  Chairs I know too well.

6. Witherweaver

Connundrum.  I want to say town based on my read of his play and posts, but there are significant interactions from claims.  I mean, he's always a problem for everyone, given his scum skill and his town skill.  I'm surprised he hasn't been NKed yet, I guess.

7. silverspawn

Town or scum, silverspawn is level-headed and useful.  I'd lean town here.

9. hockeysemlan

Claimed mason.  I've stated I think the masons are lying.  Whether they are scum, a separate scum team, a third-party team, I mean anything is possible.  What I don't think they are is town-aligned.  I think hockey is not the ringleader, but the follower here.  He hasn't played his claims very well, which he's admitted.  He's still got some newbie cred to work with, which may have been a conscious decision by him or his partner(s).

11. A Drowned Kernel

I'd say he's exactly what he said he is, and he's bored that he only had the one shot and he wasted it on D1.

12. Awaclus

Man, I thought he was scum on D2, but he's since claimed Survivor.  I've always said, lynch survivors.  Always.  I mean, go look at the record -- they always win, and they always choose scum in the end.

14. Delirious Deleuze

Claimed mason, etc. etc.  He's definitely the leader of his group, whatever it may be.  He is, to me, playing a typical scum game -- bullying town into mislynches, skirting the offensive line as much as possible, trying to suppress the stronger players by being louder and "authoritative" while not actually having anything to back it up.  I think his certainty on scum numbers and teams is based on his own scum knowledge, which to me a scumslip.  I've made a case earlier on him you can refer back to.

15. mail-mi

If his role is what he says, he is most likely town.  Surprising he's survived this long, though.

[ashersky]

Guys, he's just throwing this white knight slating himself parade to get sympathy. He is scum.

Can we please lynch me?  I feel compelled to respond to every offensive word this guy says.

When everyone else sees I am not scum, will you come up with some excuse?  Will you say someone changed the result via some power (even though that's a BM thing only)?  You've painted yourself into this corner man, and it was a terrible, terrible thing to do.

Remember when I said I would do anything to win?  That ALWAYS includes sacrificing myself for town.

[Delirious Deleuze]

Guys, he's just throwing this white knight slating himself parade to get sympathy. He is scum.

Can we please lynch me?  I feel compelled to respond to every offensive word this guy says.

When everyone else sees I am not scum, will you come up with some excuse?  Will you say someone changed the result via some power (even though that's a BM thing only)?  You've painted yourself into this corner man, and it was a terrible, terrible thing to do.

Remember when I said I would do anything to win?  That ALWAYS includes sacrificing myself for town.

And when you flip scum and everyone sees I'm town I hope got an apology since you e called me full of shit and swore first

[ashersky]

So, scum to town, as of right now:

DD = hockey > Awaclus = WW > 2.7 > mail-mi > ADK > silverspawn > chairs

[ashersky]

And when you flip scum and everyone sees I'm town I hope got an apology since you e called me full of shit and swore first

If I'm scum, I will do anything anyone wants to make up for whatever slight you think I've caused.

[Delirious Deleuze]

And when you flip scum and everyone sees I'm town I hope got an apology since you e called me full of shit and swore first

If I'm scum, I will do anything anyone wants to make up for whatever slight you think I've caused.

Ditto.

[silverspawn]

And when you flip scum and everyone sees I'm town I hope got an apology since you e called me full of shit and swore first

If I'm scum, I will do anything anyone wants to make up for whatever slight you think I've caused.

Ditto.

yeah, well, you're probably both town while the real scum sits silently in the background and has fun blending in. like e.

[chairs]

GOOD GOD CAN WE JUST LYNCH SOMEONE PLEASE

[Awaclus]

GOOD GOD CAN WE JUST LYNCH SOMEONE PLEASE

What's the hurry though?

[chairs]

GOOD GOD CAN WE JUST LYNCH SOMEONE PLEASE

What's the hurry though?

Just trying to save my sanity.

[Delirious Deleuze]

I definitely don't think we should lynch yet. I love this confusion and I'm at least having fun trying to figure it out. I don't support an e lynch. He has had been gone and posted he'd be absent. I feel this is not a great lynch.

[Awaclus]

We shouldn't lynch yet. I still want to do the plan, and for that, we need to know who I actually managed to invite.