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[Awaclus]

And what was my win con?

You don't know what your own win con is? 

I can't quote the exact win con because it's moderator-supplied information, but you win with the Vampires.

This is starting to feel like a fake claim to me.  Why wouldn't you have brought this up when we first started discussing this?

It's absolutely not a fake claim. I didn't bring it up because I thought it didn't matter.

[Witherweaver]

And what was my win con?

You don't know what your own win con is? 

I can't quote the exact win con because it's moderator-supplied information, but you win with the Vampires.

This is starting to feel like a fake claim to me.  Why wouldn't you have brought this up when we first started discussing this?

It's absolutely not a fake claim. I didn't bring it up because I thought it didn't matter.

I don't believe you.

[Witherweaver]

Vote: Awaclus

[Delirious Deleuze]

And what was my win con?

You don't know what your own win con is? 

I can't quote the exact win con because it's moderator-supplied information, but you win with the Vampires.

This is starting to feel like a fake claim to me.  Why wouldn't you have brought this up when we first started discussing this?

It's absolutely not a fake claim. I didn't bring it up because I thought it didn't matter.

You can quote fairly close and just change a word or two. Go ahead. I don't believe you.

[Awaclus]

You can quote fairly close and just change a word or two. Go ahead. I don't believe you.

You win when the majority of remaining players are Vampire-aligned, or nothing can stop that from happening.

What does this help though? You wouldn't know what the Vampire win con is anyway, and even if I was scum, I could just look up my own win con and paste that.

[Witherweaver]

And you are 100% claiming that nothing can redirect or otherwise affect your role?

[faust]

Vote Count 3.2

Delirious Deleuze (1): ashersky
Awaclus (4): mail-mi, A Drowned Kernel, 2.71828....., Witherweaver
Witherweaver (1): chairs
ashersky (1): Delirious Deleuze

Not Voting (4): silverspawn, ashersky, Awaclus, hockeysemlan

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 ends July 8 at 1 pm forum time.

[silverspawn]

mh. if you gain the wincon rather than the alignment, that makes the psychotrooper theory less likely, though not impossible.

[Awaclus]

And you are 100% claiming that nothing can redirect or otherwise affect your role?

I am 100% claiming that the role doesn't count as "targeting". That's all I know about it.

[Delirious Deleuze]

mh. if you gain the wincon rather than the alignment, that makes the psychotrooper theory less likely, though not impossible.

That's how I feel.

WW have you submitted your action?

[Witherweaver]

No, psychotrooper flips results; there are multiple win-cons here.  Town wincon, mafia wincon, and whatever Ichi's wincon was (self-aligned).  Possibly whatever Awaclus' is as well. 

[Witherweaver]

mh. if you gain the wincon rather than the alignment, that makes the psychotrooper theory less likely, though not impossible.

That's how I feel.

WW have you submitted your action?

I have not yet decided what I'm going to do.

[Delirious Deleuze]

No, psychotrooper flips results; there are multiple win-cons here.  Town wincon, mafia wincon, and whatever Ichi's wincon was (self-aligned).  Possibly whatever Awaclus' is as well.

Why would this not have applied to mail-mi then?

[Delirious Deleuze]

mh. if you gain the wincon rather than the alignment, that makes the psychotrooper theory less likely, though not impossible.

That's how I feel.

WW have you submitted your action?

I have not yet decided what I'm going to do.

Well if you're actually town you should decide in the next like 10=5 minutes

[Delirious Deleuze]

10-15**

[Witherweaver]

No, psychotrooper flips results; there are multiple win-cons here.  Town wincon, mafia wincon, and whatever Ichi's wincon was (self-aligned).  Possibly whatever Awaclus' is as well.

Why would this not have applied to mail-mi then?

Because Mail-Mi is not getting guilty/nonguilty investigation results....

[Witherweaver]

mh. if you gain the wincon rather than the alignment, that makes the psychotrooper theory less likely, though not impossible.

That's how I feel.

WW have you submitted your action?

I have not yet decided what I'm going to do.

Well if you're actually town you should decide in the next like 10=5 minutes

Uh, no?  We have, like, two days.  Have you reread Days 1 and 2 in light of Egor's flip yet?

[Delirious Deleuze]

No, psychotrooper flips results; there are multiple win-cons here.  Town wincon, mafia wincon, and whatever Ichi's wincon was (self-aligned).  Possibly whatever Awaclus' is as well.

Why would this not have applied to mail-mi then?

Because Mail-Mi is not getting guilty/nonguilty investigation results....

Uhm, but neither is Awaclus? Either they both get switched or they both don't, because neither has guilty/non-guilty

[Witherweaver]

No, psychotrooper flips results; there are multiple win-cons here.  Town wincon, mafia wincon, and whatever Ichi's wincon was (self-aligned).  Possibly whatever Awaclus' is as well.

Why would this not have applied to mail-mi then?

Because Mail-Mi is not getting guilty/nonguilty investigation results....

Uhm, but neither is Awaclus? Either they both get switched or they both don't, because neither has guilty/non-guilty

My point is Awaclus' role, as he is claiming it works now, would not be affected by Psychotrooper. 

[Delirious Deleuze]

mh. if you gain the wincon rather than the alignment, that makes the psychotrooper theory less likely, though not impossible.

That's how I feel.

WW have you submitted your action?

I have not yet decided what I'm going to do.

Well if you're actually town you should decide in the next like 10=5 minutes

Uh, no?  We have, like, two days.  Have you reread Days 1 and 2 in light of Egor's flip yet?

Yeah, but I can't explain much more, but you won't have the ability to in a little bit.

[Witherweaver]

And he's claiming it does not target (hence cannot be redirected).  Hence he is lying. 

[Witherweaver]

Why do you need to rush this?  You have an item that has to be done now, not just within the Action window?

[Delirious Deleuze]

No, psychotrooper flips results; there are multiple win-cons here.  Town wincon, mafia wincon, and whatever Ichi's wincon was (self-aligned).  Possibly whatever Awaclus' is as well.

Why would this not have applied to mail-mi then?

Because Mail-Mi is not getting guilty/nonguilty investigation results....

Uhm, but neither is Awaclus? Either they both get switched or they both don't, because neither has guilty/non-guilty

My point is Awaclus' role, as he is claiming it works now, would not be affected by Psychotrooper.

Okay, so either he's lying or you're scum. Which returns us to why a lynch of you is probably better and we can have mail-mi investigate at night.

PPE: It can be done within the action window, but I'm going to be in and out the next few days.

[Delirious Deleuze]

No, psychotrooper flips results; there are multiple win-cons here.  Town wincon, mafia wincon, and whatever Ichi's wincon was (self-aligned).  Possibly whatever Awaclus' is as well.

Why would this not have applied to mail-mi then?

Because Mail-Mi is not getting guilty/nonguilty investigation results....

Uhm, but neither is Awaclus? Either they both get switched or they both don't, because neither has guilty/non-guilty

My point is Awaclus' role, as he is claiming it works now, would not be affected by Psychotrooper.

Okay, so either he's lying or you're scum. Which returns us to why a lynch of you is probably better and we can have mail-mi investigate at night.

PPE: It can be done within the action window, but I'm going to be in and out the next few days.

I also can't assure that I will synch up my play after yours for sure.

[Witherweaver]

So wait; there is a lot still to do.

A lynch of me is certainly not better.