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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #1475 on: June 30, 2015, 03:17:12 pm »

That's why I brought this up:

I think we might want to reconsider an ADK lynch. ashersky was right that as long as town controls the extra lynch, it doesn't matter of it's scum who shoots - only, town didn't control it. ADK just chose a random target. I could easily see scum having a second one-shot killing role in this setup. Or, who knows, maybe he's a SK who shoots during the day and plans to not use his shot in further days - although, in that case, he probably did try to hit scum.

Is there any sense to have SK/2 scum factions flavorwise? If yes, I'd sheep silver here

Interesting... this was fairly early on.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1476 on: June 30, 2015, 03:18:38 pm »

And, I want to understand what was going on with Egor's claim. 
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1477 on: June 30, 2015, 03:25:10 pm »

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1478 on: June 30, 2015, 03:25:31 pm »

Possible scenario is Egor + single partner think they're in multiball because they only have two Mafia members. So they are scumhunting for real, trying to get the second team.  So the result could be true, or partially true, or any part that was lying wouldn't be confirmable, but he'd get town cred for catching scum.  In which case, they would have thought ADK was scum.

The situation where Egor just makes a fake claim on town!ADK doesn't make sense.. he had to have thought something would come out of it.  Scum team thinking that they are in multiball and that ADK really was scum could explain it.

Oh, also, there could have been no kill Night 1 because a Traitor was recruited.

Mail-Mi, did you say ADK was cleared somehow?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1479 on: June 30, 2015, 03:50:36 pm »

Yes. There is a town power that can kill during the day. And adk is the only on e who has claimed to be able to do that.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1480 on: June 30, 2015, 03:51:45 pm »

Yes. There is a town power that can kill during the day. And adk is the only on e who has claimed to be able to do that.

Can we rule out the case that there is an item that enables this ability?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1481 on: June 30, 2015, 03:52:42 pm »

Yes. There is a town power that can kill during the day. And adk is the only on e who has claimed to be able to do that.

Can we rule out the case that there is an item that enables this ability?

I asked if there was a town-aligned role that could do it. Not item.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1482 on: June 30, 2015, 04:03:31 pm »

I think the only four possible scum/non-town based on mail-mi's questioning are awaclus, WW, and ash.

I think ADK is fine because of the mail-mi question about day vigs. If there was another town vig I feel they would've claimed to shine the light on ADK as lying.

Mail-mi is town to me. This power has been stellar and he just seems townie to me.

e has just seen townie to me. Same with Silver.

Chairs' power has helped town a lot and I have a town read here.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1483 on: June 30, 2015, 04:04:06 pm »

Sorry the only three possible scum/non-townies**
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1484 on: June 30, 2015, 04:05:07 pm »

Down for either an ash lynch or a WW lynch. Need to know before the window closes though for reasons I don't want to disclose involving an item.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1485 on: June 30, 2015, 04:06:29 pm »

I still don't like a WW lynch. No-one has really given me any arguments as to why the global psychotrooper thing is unlikely.

I could see ash, or maybe e? he's totally been blending in.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1486 on: June 30, 2015, 04:08:35 pm »

I still don't like a WW lynch. No-one has really given me any arguments as to why the global psychotrooper thing is unlikely.

Why would EgorK say that I'm a demon if his result was psychotrooped?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1487 on: June 30, 2015, 04:09:38 pm »

I still don't like a WW lynch. No-one has really given me any arguments as to why the global psychotrooper thing is unlikely.

Why would EgorK say that I'm a demon if his result was psychotrooped?

Why would Lekkit say you weren't?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1488 on: June 30, 2015, 04:10:14 pm »

I still don't like a WW lynch. No-one has really given me any arguments as to why the global psychotrooper thing is unlikely.

Why would EgorK say that I'm a demon if his result was psychotrooped?

He would've known. I think he was just caught in a lie.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1489 on: June 30, 2015, 04:22:24 pm »

I still don't like a WW lynch. No-one has really given me any arguments as to why the global psychotrooper thing is unlikely.

Why would EgorK say that I'm a demon if his result was psychotrooped?

Why would Lekkit say you weren't?

Because it was just his result that was wrong.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1490 on: June 30, 2015, 04:24:11 pm »

I still don't like a WW lynch. No-one has really given me any arguments as to why the global psychotrooper thing is unlikely.

Why would EgorK say that I'm a demon if his result was psychotrooped?

Why would Lekkit say you weren't?

Because it was just his result that was wrong.

How exactly does your power work? Is it just like it returns town or scum, or what? Because why would mail-mi's yes/no's not be changed but yours would?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1491 on: June 30, 2015, 04:25:19 pm »

I still don't like a WW lynch. No-one has really given me any arguments as to why the global psychotrooper thing is unlikely.

Why would EgorK say that I'm a demon if his result was psychotrooped?

Why would Lekkit say you weren't?

Because it was just his result that was wrong.

But yours are wrong.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1492 on: June 30, 2015, 04:28:06 pm »

Why would Mail-Mi's results be changed?  A Psychotrooper ability is:

"Psychotrooper: All investigators with 'GUILTY/NOT GUILTY' results are Insane while you are still alive."

(or the analogous X-shot)
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1493 on: June 30, 2015, 04:31:29 pm »

Vote: Ash. I'm beginning to believe the psychotrooper story. Tonight, I'd like awaclus to invite mail-mi, WW, and someone else to the bar. Mail-mi can try to find scum, awaclus can reread WW or the new person, and I can use my power.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1494 on: June 30, 2015, 04:31:37 pm »

I still don't like a WW lynch. No-one has really given me any arguments as to why the global psychotrooper thing is unlikely.

Why would EgorK say that I'm a demon if his result was psychotrooped?

Why would Lekkit say you weren't?

Because it was just his result that was wrong.

How exactly does your power work? Is it just like it returns town or scum, or what? Because why would mail-mi's yes/no's not be changed but yours would?

It returns the win con.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1495 on: June 30, 2015, 04:32:03 pm »

And what was my win con?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1496 on: June 30, 2015, 04:33:41 pm »

I still don't like a WW lynch. No-one has really given me any arguments as to why the global psychotrooper thing is unlikely.

Why would EgorK say that I'm a demon if his result was psychotrooped?

Why would Lekkit say you weren't?

Because it was just his result that was wrong.

How exactly does your power work? Is it just like it returns town or scum, or what? Because why would mail-mi's yes/no's not be changed but yours would?

It returns the win con.

That seems like something psychotrooper wouldn't affect... or then why wouldn't it affect mail-mi?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1497 on: June 30, 2015, 04:34:37 pm »

Mail-Mi, you should definitely confirm that awaclus is a survivor tonight and not straight up scum.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1498 on: June 30, 2015, 04:36:24 pm »

This is starting to feel like a fake claim to me.  Why wouldn't you have brought this up when we first started discussing this?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1499 on: June 30, 2015, 04:39:13 pm »

This is starting to feel like a fake claim to me.  Why wouldn't you have brought this up when we first started discussing this?

I don't think he's lying, but either way, I think the plan still holds. Mail-mi can confirm if he's scum, I will know some stuff (you know what I mean), and you'll know more stuff. You should get a read on ash today to see if he's the right lynch.
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