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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1375 on: June 29, 2015, 10:26:50 pm »

I'm beginning to really believe awaclus. The fact that Faust didn't ask for clarification on the role name makes it seem more correct, too.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1376 on: June 29, 2015, 10:27:38 pm »

Hey we're not lynching me.

So will you do it on ash? let me know when you did?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1377 on: June 29, 2015, 10:30:34 pm »

I'll have to think.  We still have time before day actions.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1378 on: June 29, 2015, 10:32:24 pm »

So I need to know people's opinion on this plan before I do an action.

Silver is down, Awaclus is down, I'm down.

WW doesn't want to be lynched, but that's to be expected either way.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1379 on: June 29, 2015, 10:33:48 pm »

We should try to lynch scum today.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1380 on: June 29, 2015, 10:37:46 pm »

We should try to lynch scum today.

Which is why we'll lynch you.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1381 on: June 29, 2015, 10:38:30 pm »

We should try to lynch scum today.

Which is why we'll lynch you.

No, that would be lynching town.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1382 on: June 29, 2015, 10:39:48 pm »

We should try to lynch scum today.

Which is why we'll lynch you.

No, that would be lynching town.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1383 on: June 29, 2015, 10:43:22 pm »

So just to talk more of my thoughts out, the way I see for this plan to fail is if there's a two person scum team. If WW flips town, then we need to ensure that the other scum player is in the bar already. This is why I want ash.

I'm going to jump ahead and counter what I feel ash will inevitably say...

"Arghhhhh but you AND hockey are scum" well if WW flips town, then that means awaclus is scum for lying and mail-mi is scum for lying. I don't think it can work out any way to have me, awaclus, and hockey be on a team.

AND if WW flips scum, awaclus is a survivor and that's 4 non-town. That means we could have more (another scum, too) which is why the best hedge is to put ash and someone else in there who we suspect to be the third scum.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1384 on: June 29, 2015, 10:44:37 pm »

So just to talk more of my thoughts out, the way I see for this plan to fail is if there's a two person scum team. If WW flips town, then we need to ensure that the other scum player is in the bar already. This is why I want ash.

I'm going to jump ahead and counter what I feel ash will inevitably say...

"Arghhhhh but you AND hockey are scum" well if WW flips town, then that means awaclus is scum for lying and mail-mi is scum for lying. I don't think it can work out any way to have me, awaclus, and hockey be on a team.

AND if WW flips scum, awaclus is a survivor and that's 4 non-town. That means we could have more (another scum, too) which is why the best hedge is to put ash and someone else in there who we suspect to be the third scum.

I'm not convinced that Awaclus isn't a survivor as he says.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1385 on: June 29, 2015, 10:46:08 pm »

So just to talk more of my thoughts out, the way I see for this plan to fail is if there's a two person scum team. If WW flips town, then we need to ensure that the other scum player is in the bar already. This is why I want ash.

I'm going to jump ahead and counter what I feel ash will inevitably say...

"Arghhhhh but you AND hockey are scum" well if WW flips town, then that means awaclus is scum for lying and mail-mi is scum for lying. I don't think it can work out any way to have me, awaclus, and hockey be on a team.

AND if WW flips scum, awaclus is a survivor and that's 4 non-town. That means we could have more (another scum, too) which is why the best hedge is to put ash and someone else in there who we suspect to be the third scum.

I'm not convinced that Awaclus isn't a survivor as he says.

Double negatives are annoying.

Regardless, I think this plan accounts for that.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1386 on: June 29, 2015, 10:46:54 pm »

Vote: Witherweaver.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1387 on: June 29, 2015, 10:47:24 pm »

Awaclus, have you sent the invites? You can only do three, right? So ash, mail-mi, and who else?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1388 on: June 29, 2015, 10:47:30 pm »

How?  You're saying that town!WW means Mafia!Awaclus. I already know I'm town, and I'm not convinced that Awaclus is Mafia. 
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1389 on: June 29, 2015, 10:48:00 pm »

Guys, seriously.  Are we not trying to lynch scum this game or something?  Is this backwards Mafia?

We have Egors flip.  He has partners.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1390 on: June 29, 2015, 10:48:26 pm »

And, well, we also have a claimed Survivor, but he may have town utility.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1391 on: June 29, 2015, 10:48:40 pm »

So I need to know people's opinion on this plan before I do an action.

Silver is down, Awaclus is down, I'm down.

WW doesn't want to be lynched, but that's to be expected either way.

I'm down, I think.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1392 on: June 29, 2015, 10:50:14 pm »

Guys, seriously.  Are we not trying to lynch scum this game or something?  Is this backwards Mafia?

We have Egors flip.  He has partners.

How do you know it's plural? I'm going to assume that you misspoke or were just speculating. Who is it? If you think awaclus isn't necessarily mafia, then why did he have an incorrect read on you?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1393 on: June 29, 2015, 10:50:36 pm »

Yeah. , and you are it ww

I'm down for the plan. Whaddya want me to ask?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1394 on: June 29, 2015, 10:53:03 pm »

Guys, seriously.  Are we not trying to lynch scum this game or something?  Is this backwards Mafia?

We have Egors flip.  He has partners.

How do you know it's plural? I'm going to assume that you misspoke or were just speculating. Who is it? If you think awaclus isn't necessarily mafia, then why did he have an incorrect read on you?

How would I know?  My best guess is either redirection or results Night 1 were flipped.    Lekkit had a false result on ADK, if we believe that ADK is town.  I'm also not convinced his ability is completely untargettable (even with restrictions, that's strong).  Maybe it can just get through the Caritas protection.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1395 on: June 29, 2015, 10:53:12 pm »

Yeah. , and you are it ww

I'm down for the plan. Whaddya want me to ask?

I am NOT

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1396 on: June 29, 2015, 10:53:40 pm »

Guys, seriously.  Are we not trying to lynch scum this game or something?  Is this backwards Mafia?

We have Egors flip.  He has partners.

How do you know it's plural? I'm going to assume that you misspoke or were just speculating. Who is it? If you think awaclus isn't necessarily mafia, then why did he have an incorrect read on you?

I don't, but I know it's greater than 0, because you don't have a Mafia team with one member.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1397 on: June 29, 2015, 10:56:24 pm »

I don't know. So if WW flips town, then we're looking for awaclus' scum partner, who hopefully is in the bubble with you.

If WW flips scum, and the game continues, well then awaclus probably is survivor and there is another scum (hopefully in the bar) or in an odd turn of events, awaclus is also scum and it was a long con. But that's unlikely, I think.

So I think, in these scenarios the questions should be as follows:

FLIP TOWN: Both looking for the other partner

FLIP SCUM: 1 question looking for the partner and maybe on confirming that awaclus is for sure survivor.

How do those sound?

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Guys, seriously.  Are we not trying to lynch scum this game or something?  Is this backwards Mafia?

We have Egors flip.  He has partners.

How do you know it's plural? I'm going to assume that you misspoke or were just speculating. Who is it? If you think awaclus isn't necessarily mafia, then why did he have an incorrect read on you?

How would I know?  My best guess is either redirection or results Night 1 were flipped.    Lekkit had a false result on ADK, if we believe that ADK is town.  I'm also not convinced his ability is completely untargettable (even with restrictions, that's strong).  Maybe it can just get through the Caritas protection.

Mods don't lie, this isn't bastard mafia. I think he wouldn't be able to target in Caritas, since the mod even said that no targeting was possible. I'm open to believing this. I also think this is going to make it fairly hard to redirect or change the answer.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1398 on: June 29, 2015, 10:58:56 pm »

Perhaps it was a global ability?  Either Lekkit's result was redirected/flipped, or ADK is scum.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1399 on: June 29, 2015, 10:59:13 pm »

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