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[ashersky]

I believe at least some of Awaclus's claim today.

[Delirious Deleuze]

I highly recommend reading this: http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Krevlornswath_of_the_Deathwok_Clan (relevant flavor)

No. You are scum.

Flavor doesn't matter. TARA was a vampire. TARA. You know, the young girl with who was Willow's lesbian lover. This proves literally nothing and you should know this.

[Delirious Deleuze]

It's an ash/awaclus team. I'm pretty positive of it.

[ashersky]

And anyone making a case based on how the EgorK lynch went down still hasn't read the setup and should sit quietly in a corner thinking about how terrible they are being.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I believe at least some of Awaclus's claim today.

Which parts?

[ashersky]

It's an ash/awaclus team. I'm pretty positive of it.

If you are willing to change your "bet" to an immediate request for replacement from this game if you are wrong, I will happily lynch myself just to prove you wrong.

I'm done with this game anyway.  I'm basically at the point where if I'm not scum, I hate playing.

[Delirious Deleuze]

It's an ash/awaclus team. I'm pretty positive of it.

If you are willing to change your "bet" to an immediate request for replacement from this game if you are wrong, I will happily lynch myself just to prove you wrong.

I'm done with this game anyway.  I'm basically at the point where if I'm not scum, I hate playing.

What?

I will happily bet that if I'm not a town mason I will immediately request a replacement? Because guess what, I'll still be playing.

And whatever dude.

[ashersky]

I believe at least some of Awaclus's claim today.

Which parts?

That he's not town.  That he's Lorne.  That he creates that QT.

That investigative thing makes sense, but I had a pretty okay town read on WW.

Although, like Teproc, when WW seems towny, he's scum.  But eh, I don't really feel it.

But put it this way -- if Awaclus is self-aligned, there is zero benefit to purposefully lying.  If he's scum, maybe he's trying to take someone down before being lynch.

Actually -- ADK, any shots left?  Seems like plenty could be gained from a mid-day flip.

[ashersky]

It's an ash/awaclus team. I'm pretty positive of it.

If you are willing to change your "bet" to an immediate request for replacement from this game if you are wrong, I will happily lynch myself just to prove you wrong.

I'm done with this game anyway.  I'm basically at the point where if I'm not scum, I hate playing.

What?

I will happily bet that if I'm not a town mason I will immediately request a replacement? Because guess what, I'll still be playing.

And whatever dude.

So you are not willing to bet your place in this game on your lies?  Okay, good to know.

[Delirious Deleuze]

It's an ash/awaclus team. I'm pretty positive of it.

I'm done with this game anyway.  I'm basically at the point where if I'm not scum, I hate playing.

What? I just wanted to point this out again, for everyone. He was literally just railing me for telling him to follow through and delete his posts if he's wrong, called me anti-town for it, and now this.

[Delirious Deleuze]

It's an ash/awaclus team. I'm pretty positive of it.

If you are willing to change your "bet" to an immediate request for replacement from this game if you are wrong, I will happily lynch myself just to prove you wrong.

I'm done with this game anyway.  I'm basically at the point where if I'm not scum, I hate playing.

What?

I will happily bet that if I'm not a town mason I will immediately request a replacement? Because guess what, I'll still be playing.

And whatever dude.

So you are not willing to bet your place in this game on your lies?  Okay, good to know.

I said I would be willing to take the bet. I will delete everything if I'm lying in addition.

[Awaclus]

I was also foreshadowing being a cop in the karaoke bar QT N1, and outright told mail-mi N2.

[Delirious Deleuze]

I believe at least some of Awaclus's claim today.

Which parts?

Actually -- ADK, any shots left?  Seems like plenty could be gained from a mid-day flip.

He's fishing to see if anyone has shots for night.

[ashersky]

It's an ash/awaclus team. I'm pretty positive of it.

I'm done with this game anyway.  I'm basically at the point where if I'm not scum, I hate playing.

What? I just wanted to point this out again, for everyone. He was literally just railing me for telling him to follow through and delete his posts if he's wrong, called me anti-town for it, and now this.

You claim to be a MASON.  You have a responsibility as a mason to do specific things for the town.  You are not fulfilling them.

I know you haven't played for awhile, but I play all games, of all alignment to win.  And I do whatever it takes to win.  Some have accused me of being willing to cheat to win.  (Hi Voltaire.)

I don't have any responsibility to my townmates to be clear or concise, or "pro-town" as you define it, or anything.  The only thing I owe them is to kill it to the best of my ability, as I always do, to ensure we win.

Anyone who's played a number of games with me knows that, whether we are townmates or scummates, they can 100% count on me to do what I believe is in the best of interest of getting the win, even if they don't like it or agree with it.

What I'm saying there, is I'm incredibly tired of this fight happening every single town game I play.  It's just not worth the stress and anger IRL that it causes.

[Awaclus]

Awaclus claimed to me in the neighborhood his exact flavor name and role name. So I asked if there was a town-aligned role called Aura-reading Karaoke Bar Host, and the answer was No.

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My masons question: I asked if there were any town masons in this game, and faust asked me to clarify what masons means.

So he didn't ask you to clarify what Aura-reading Karaoke Bar Host means? Because if that's true, then this should confirm that it is, indeed, my role.

[ashersky]

Awaclus claimed to me in the neighborhood his exact flavor name and role name. So I asked if there was a town-aligned role called Aura-reading Karaoke Bar Host, and the answer was No.

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My masons question: I asked if there were any town masons in this game, and faust asked me to clarify what masons means.

So he didn't ask you to clarify what Aura-reading Karaoke Bar Host means? Because if that's true, then this should confirm that it is, indeed, my role.

That's a good catch.

It also confirms there are no "Masons" in this game.

[ashersky]

I would note that on D1 and beyond, DD and Hockey claimed "masons."  One can search and pull quotes to that effect.

Only TODAY, when called on it, did they clarify that they aren't "masons" but are part of a council, or some made up thing.

Yet another example of a blantant lie.  I would assume that most players would agree that blantant lies, such as that one, or the ones they told regarding the hockey shield all throughout Day 2, are anti-town at best and scummy at worst.

[Witherweaver]

I would note that on D1 and beyond, DD and Hockey claimed "masons."  One can search and pull quotes to that effect.

Only TODAY, when called on it, did they clarify that they aren't "masons" but are part of a council, or some made up thing.

Yet another example of a blantant lie.  I would assume that most players would agree that blantant lies, such as that one, or the ones they told regarding the hockey shield all throughout Day 2, are anti-town at best and scummy at worst.

Dude I have his role PM.

[Witherweaver]

The nonMasons scenario is possible but just the least likely scenario, by far.

[Delirious Deleuze]

Here's some hypotheticals:

1. We lynch WW:

a. scum!awaclus is lynchproof, town!ww is town.

Here we lynch WW, then he flips town. At best 7-2, but possibly worse. By tomorrow, at best 6-2. We lynch Awaclus, he lives, 5-2 that night. Then we lynch awaclus again 5-1. That night 4-1.

b. scum!awalcus is not lynchproof, town!ww.

We lynch WW, 7-2. Then 6-2 at night, into a 6-1 that day, then 5-1 at night.

c. survivor!awalcus, scum!ww.

We lynch WW and it's probably 8-1 or better. That'd be cool.

2. We lynch awaclus.

a. scum!awaclus is lynchproof, town!ww.

Today, no one would die from the lynch: 8-2. After tonight, 7-2. Tomorrow, 7-1 and a cleared WW. Sounds nice.

b. scum!awaclus is not lynchproof, town!ww.

8-1 today, cleared WW. That's cool.

c. survivor!awaclus is lynchproof, scum!ww.

Assuming there are not 5 scum, which is yet to be determined and seems excessive. Scum would kill town at night, then we lynch awaclus again tomorrow, he flips, then another town dies. That puts us at 6-1 the next day unless there are extra scum.

d. survivor!awaclus is not lynchproof, scum!ww.

Basically same as above, except we gain an extra lynch.



I think a is the most probably is that awaclus is scum and this is him trying to get out of it. I also think it makes sense to lynch him no matter what anyway.

PPE(4): This is absurd, they're obviously a team. Of course Faust asked him to clarify masons, since we're called "Watcher's Council".

Also, mail-mi is town according to awaclus, so ash, this can't be proof for you.

I would note that on D1 and beyond, DD and Hockey claimed "masons."  One can search and pull quotes to that effect.

Only TODAY, when called on it, did they clarify that they aren't "masons" but are part of a council, or some made up thing.

Yet another example of a blantant lie.  I would assume that most players would agree that blantant lies, such as that one, or the ones they told regarding the hockey shield all throughout Day 2, are anti-town at best and scummy at worst.

You're honestly laughable dude.

Also, I thought you don't care about "pro-town" or however " define it".

Yes, roles are called different things in this. ex. check out the watcher part that is actually tracking.

[Delirious Deleuze]

I would note that on D1 and beyond, DD and Hockey claimed "masons."  One can search and pull quotes to that effect.

Only TODAY, when called on it, did they clarify that they aren't "masons" but are part of a council, or some made up thing.

Yet another example of a blantant lie.  I would assume that most players would agree that blantant lies, such as that one, or the ones they told regarding the hockey shield all throughout Day 2, are anti-town at best and scummy at worst.

Dude I have his role PM.

This.

Vote: Awaclus. I would honestly rather lynch ash today because if awaclus does have lynchproof, we could take out his partner and stop PRs.

[chairs]

vote: ww.

I totally believe Awaclus's claim at this point.

[Witherweaver]

vote: ww.

I totally believe Awaclus's claim at this point.

He is wrong.

[Delirious Deleuze]

vote: ww.

I totally believe Awaclus's claim at this point.

Why?

[Awaclus]

It's an ash/awaclus team. I'm pretty positive of it.

You're going to stop being pretty positive of it later today, might as well start now.