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[Delirious Deleuze]

Meh, could have gone better. I'm self-aligned (basically a survivor). Since mail-mi claimed my flavor name already, there's no point in trying to hide it anymore; I can also read (basically cop) someone in my QT every night. WW is scum and mail-mi is town.

Then how did mail-mi get his result on you?

[Delirious Deleuze]

Never mind, you're not town that's why.

Yeah I just don't believe you.

[Awaclus]

Meh, could have gone better. I'm self-aligned (basically a survivor). Since mail-mi claimed my flavor name already, there's no point in trying to hide it anymore; I can also read (basically cop) someone in my QT every night. WW is scum and mail-mi is town.

Then how did mail-mi get his result on you?

With his oracle ability, I suppose.

[silverspawn]

a survivor cop? I'm not sure I buy that. It seems like a rather odd decision from a design perspective. Like, here is this insanely powerful PR that will drastically change balance which I'll give to a third party role who can either use it for town or not use it at all.

[Awaclus]

Yeah I just don't believe you.

Why not?

[Delirious Deleuze]

Meh, could have gone better. I'm self-aligned (basically a survivor). Since mail-mi claimed my flavor name already, there's no point in trying to hide it anymore; I can also read (basically cop) someone in my QT every night. WW is scum and mail-mi is town.

Who did you read N1? WW? And then Mail-mi tonight?

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm not sure how much I like this. Claiming survivor with lynchproof? That seems a little too convenient.

PPE: What DeDe and silver said.

[silverspawn]

I guess it could be neat thing for the survivor alone to have a cop - a mildly useful thing for him - but cop is just so good for town.

[Awaclus]

a survivor cop? I'm not sure I buy that. It seems like a rather odd decision from a design perspective. Like, here is this insanely powerful PR that will drastically change balance which I'll give to a third party role who can either use it for town or not use it at all.

Seems to make perfect sense from a flavor perspective, though. It's not even insanely powerful, I'd say it's weaker than a regular cop because I'm limited to copping the people who accept the invitations. And it's beneficial for me to lynch scum too.

[Delirious Deleuze]

Yeah I just don't believe you.

Why not?

It doesn't seem likely. We have. 2 (possible +) scum team and TWO non-scum, non-town factions? That just seems like a lot for a 15 person game.

That means it's WW and EgorK. It just doesn't feel right.

[Witherweaver]

It's absolutely wrong.  Either Awaclus is lying or there was some major misinformation with investigations Night 1.

[silverspawn]

a survivor cop? I'm not sure I buy that. It seems like a rather odd decision from a design perspective. Like, here is this insanely powerful PR that will drastically change balance which I'll give to a third party role who can either use it for town or not use it at all.

Seems to make perfect sense from a flavor perspective, though. It's not even insanely powerful, I'd say it's weaker than a regular cop because I'm limited to copping the people who accept the invitations. And it's beneficial for me to lynch scum too.

slightly weaker than a regular cop is still insanely powerful. a cop creates one IC per day at worst case. Compare that to, like, any other PR. it's so powerful that a modifier which does nothing except weakening cop results, like godfather, is considered a moderately strong role.

well, I guess there could be a godfather in this game, too.

[Awaclus]

Meh, could have gone better. I'm self-aligned (basically a survivor). Since mail-mi claimed my flavor name already, there's no point in trying to hide it anymore; I can also read (basically cop) someone in my QT every night. WW is scum and mail-mi is town.

Who did you read N1? WW? And then Mail-mi tonight?

Yeah.

Yeah I just don't believe you.

Why not?

It doesn't seem likely. We have. 2 (possible +) scum team and TWO non-scum, non-town factions? That just seems like a lot for a 15 person game.

That means it's WW and EgorK. It just doesn't feel right.

Lost mafia had two non-scum, non-town factions in addition to scum and town. I think ashersky might be a vampire too. And WW being EgorK's partner does feel pretty right if you consider their earlier interactions.

[silverspawn]

and you claim to be a demon, Awaclus?

well - I guess mail-mi could clear Awaclus by asking if there are 2+ survivors in the setup. Not sure that's worth it though - and it requires him to stay alive until tomorrow.

[silverspawn]

do you also still claim to be lynchproof? or was that just something you said to survive yesterday?

[Delirious Deleuze]

It's absolutely wrong.  Either Awaclus is lying or there was some major misinformation with investigations Night 1.

I believe you. You ought to have been protected by hockey. I don't think he can go beyond that. He's lying.

Meh, could have gone better. I'm self-aligned (basically a survivor). Since mail-mi claimed my flavor name already, there's no point in trying to hide it anymore; I can also read (basically cop) someone in my QT every night. WW is scum and mail-mi is town.

Who did you read N1? WW? And then Mail-mi tonight?

Yeah.

Yeah I just don't believe you.

Why not?

It doesn't seem likely. We have. 2 (possible +) scum team and TWO non-scum, non-town factions? That just seems like a lot for a 15 person game.

That means it's WW and EgorK. It just doesn't feel right.

Lost mafia had two non-scum, non-town factions in addition to scum and town. I think ashersky might be a vampire too. And WW being EgorK's partner does feel pretty right if you consider their earlier interactions.

This feels like a fake vampire read on ash. I think he's trying to distance himself from his partner.

[Delirious Deleuze]

Sorry, not "fake read" actually true. But like he's trying to move away from ash there

[silverspawn]

It's absolutely wrong.  Either Awaclus is lying or there was some major misinformation with investigations Night 1.

I believe you. You ought to have been protected by hockey. I don't think he can go beyond that. He's lying.

right. there's that too. Awaclus?

[Awaclus]

and you claim to be a demon, Awaclus?

well - I guess mail-mi could clear Awaclus by asking if there are 2+ survivors in the setup. Not sure that's worth it though - and it requires him to stay alive until tomorrow.

I can 100% guarantee that the only thing I've lied about was being town.

I believe you. You ought to have been protected by hockey. I don't think he can go beyond that. He's lying.

Reading doesn't count as targeting, because it needs to get around my own protection as well.

[Delirious Deleuze]

I asked hockey to clarify with Faust and I asked too in our QT.

[Delirious Deleuze]

and you claim to be a demon, Awaclus?

well - I guess mail-mi could clear Awaclus by asking if there are 2+ survivors in the setup. Not sure that's worth it though - and it requires him to stay alive until tomorrow.

I can 100% guarantee that the only thing I've lied about was being town.

I believe you. You ought to have been protected by hockey. I don't think he can go beyond that. He's lying.

Reading doesn't count as targeting, because it needs to get around my own protection as well.

That's fair.

[silverspawn]

Pro Lynching Awaclus
- if he's non-lynchproof scum, we kill scum. amazing.
- if he's non-lynchproof survivor without the cop role, we kill a potentially anti town role
- if he's non-lynchproof survivor with the cop role, we verify his targets - though not really, because we can't know if the cop thing is true.

Contra Lynching Awaclus
- if he's lynchproof whatever, we waste a lynch
- if he really is a cop, we kill the strongest PR in the game

[silverspawn]

The other thing we could do is to lynch WW, and if he's town, lynch or shoot Awaclus next

[silverspawn]

I think I'm in favor of lynching WW first, but I'll have to reread him and his interaction with Egork before deciding

[Awaclus]

I highly recommend reading this: http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Krevlornswath_of_the_Deathwok_Clan (relevant flavor)