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[silverspawn]

also, please include mail-mi's claim that there are masons in the game into your explanation.

[Witherweaver]

I'm, like, 99.5% sure they aren't lying.

[Delirious Deleuze]

He's just wrong. But okay. I cannot wait to see a deleted account because of me.

Also, it's impossible to have a team of mail-mi, me, and hockey since there are only two scum left.

[Witherweaver]

He's just wrong. But okay. I cannot wait to see a deleted account because of me.

Also, it's impossible to have a team of mail-mi, me, and hockey since there are only two scum left.

You keep saying this, but Mail-Mi's answer was "at least four", not four.

[Awaclus]

Also, it's impossible to have a team of mail-mi, me, and hockey since there are only two scum left.

We can't make assumptions like that, though. There were at least 4 scum, but unless I've missed something, we don't know of an upper limit.

[Awaclus]

PPP*: Sarnath'd by WW

*: stands for post-post post

[chairs]

If scum!mail-mi, we can't really assume his oracle results are valid, is where I"m at...

[Awaclus]

If scum!mail-mi, we can't really assume his oracle results are valid, is where I"m at...

Talking with mail-mi in the QT made me pretty sure he's town.

[ashersky]

At least some of you are thinking.

[ashersky]

Also, @ashersky: How did you know that Tara Maclay was in the setup?

The mod told me.

Why did the mod tell you?

Because Faust is cool.

[chairs]

So then, is your contention scum!mail-mi?

[chairs]

And also scum!masonteam

[chairs]

...God, that'd be a hell of a gambit.

[ashersky]

The only thing I noticed from rereading the setup another time was this:

These role names need not follow established terminology.

which makes DeDe's 'watcher' more plausible.

Nothing suggests that there are no masons.

@ash: what makes you so sure?

WW is catching on, now.

DD messed up his fake claim today.

[ashersky]

So then, is your contention scum!mail-mi?

Not yet, no.

And also scum!masonteam

NoT masons, just partners finally pulling the fake claim off.

[2.71828.....]

So, we have lynched scum now. Which means we can look at wagons and stuff. Sorry I wasn't around really much at all d2. Will hopefully remedy that today

[Awaclus]

Also, @ashersky: How did you know that Tara Maclay was in the setup?

The mod told me.

Why did the mod tell you?

Because Faust is cool.

So you're admitting that you're scum?

[chairs]

Sure, let me be more clear.

By claiming DeDe and Hockey are not masons, you are claiming mail-mi provided false data. This implies but does not guarantee scum!mail-mi, since it's possible something interfered somehow with the data he received.

[ashersky]

Also of note, my anonymous neighbor tried to communicate in code, but I couldn't crack it.

Also, I got the sense he was town.

[ashersky]

Also, @ashersky: How did you know that Tara Maclay was in the setup?

The mod told me.

Why did the mod tell you?

Because Faust is cool.

So you're admitting that you're scum?

What?  No.  I'm not scum.  Why would you even think that?

[2.71828.....]

It is interesting that the masons have not been nked yet.  I do not have any special information that confirms/denies masons, and will need a little more solid information from ashersky before I lynch either of them

[ashersky]

Sure, let me be more clear.

By claiming DeDe and Hockey are not masons, you are claiming mail-mi provided false data. This implies but does not guarantee scum!mail-mi, since it's possible something interfered somehow with the data he received.

Or his question was phrased ambiguously.  I'm worried, given the snafu with his second question.

[2.71828.....]

Sure, let me be more clear.

By claiming DeDe and Hockey are not masons, you are claiming mail-mi provided false data. This implies but does not guarantee scum!mail-mi, since it's possible something interfered somehow with the data he received.

I believe that info was N0 info as well, right? So seems pretty unlikely to be hit with something that would falsify data

[chairs]

I mean, masons are a weird problem to have for scum - on the one hand, killing one ICs the other, but on the other hand you really want to eliminate them as they can be a strong Town presence.

The damnable thing is that if ash was one of the claimed masons I could totally see this gambit, but I'm not sure I can see it from dede/hockey (no offence to anyone intended in this statement).

[ashersky]

Sure, let me be more clear.

By claiming DeDe and Hockey are not masons, you are claiming mail-mi provided false data. This implies but does not guarantee scum!mail-mi, since it's possible something interfered somehow with the data he received.

I believe that info was N0 info as well, right? So seems pretty unlikely to be hit with something that would falsify data

Nope, N1.

N0 was the at least 4 scum thing.