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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1175 on: June 29, 2015, 02:38:33 pm »


but as soon as the SK got lynched, it would be clear that Egork was lying

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1176 on: June 29, 2015, 02:41:04 pm »

Yeah, it had to be either a real result or a planned bus.  But I don't see a reason to do the latter.

Or.. maybe it was a faked result, but they controlled a "psychotrooper" switch, so they knew results would be flipped?  I.. still don't see the motivation to do that.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1177 on: June 29, 2015, 02:42:22 pm »

I didn't trust you. I trust you a bit more now, sorry, but not enough.

Then you should have accepted because the entire point was to explain things to make people trust me.

Speaking of which, I'd really like to know what mail-mi sound out with oracle.

AFAIK, he asked questions about ADK and ashersky tonight.

What do you think Egor's flip says about what he claimed?

I know what he claimed about me is true. Since mail-mi should know if ADK is scum or town and I have a pretty good reason to trust mail-mi now, I don't see a point in discussing ADK before mail-mi has posted.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1178 on: June 29, 2015, 02:47:23 pm »

@hockey: can you confirm that you aren't holding 3 items right now?

@mail-mi: if you decide that messaging silverspawn regarding what we discussed at the karaoke bar is worth it, consider messaging hockey instead.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1179 on: June 29, 2015, 02:48:57 pm »

@hockey: can you confirm that you aren't holding 3 items right now?

@mail-mi: if you decide that messaging silverspawn regarding what we discussed at the karaoke bar is worth it, consider messaging hockey instead.

? why :c

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1180 on: June 29, 2015, 02:53:06 pm »

@hockey: can you confirm that you aren't holding 3 items right now?

@mail-mi: if you decide that messaging silverspawn regarding what we discussed at the karaoke bar is worth it, consider messaging hockey instead.

? why :c

You're not a mason.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1181 on: June 29, 2015, 02:56:36 pm »

Also, @ashersky: How did you know that Tara Maclay was in the setup?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1182 on: June 29, 2015, 03:16:45 pm »

@hockey: can you confirm that you aren't holding 3 items right now?

Uhm, yeah? Nothing happened to me this night at all. I don't have 3 items. Why..?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1183 on: June 29, 2015, 03:27:51 pm »

And for what DeDe said earlier, yes I think Ash was the scummiest player D2.

First he went with a quite strong suspicion on me and DeDe, with very little to based it on, and he did it in a way that seems pretty.. bad played.. he misread a couple of the claiming-interactions with lekkit and all, trying to caught me with lies. When we find he is wrong he unvotes. Everybody can do mistakes, but strong players seldom do.

Then he pushes awaclus, quite a bit after the discussion around him has been up and most of us has been pseudo-convinced he's town or at least not scum. He pushes it pretty hard, I read it as he tries to save egor a second time and well.. I'm happy he didn't succeed.

Also, in the middle of that he throws in a "superscummy" read on silver. Not saying he's wrong on that one necessarily, but at that time? No one had the slightest scum-read on him, he wasn't in the pool of options for D2. All in all his aim seems to be to put out so much confusion and mistracks as possible. Scummy.

I don't know, I haven't processed what happened during the night yet so I will wait to vote, but he is the top of my scumlist at the moment.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1184 on: June 29, 2015, 03:32:28 pm »

@hockey: can you confirm that you aren't holding 3 items right now?

Uhm, yeah? Nothing happened to me this night at all. I don't have 3 items. Why..?

oh, just because 3 items is the maximum a player can hold according to the setup, and I'm going to give you something

give: hockey

it'll resolve once the day action window opens - you'll know what do with it.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1185 on: June 29, 2015, 03:34:33 pm »

Oh, thanks, I guess.

I'm a little surprised over the shot at lekkit. I thought he came out as townie when Egor was scum?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1186 on: June 29, 2015, 03:38:15 pm »

Oh, thanks, I guess.

I'm a little surprised over the shot at lekkit. I thought he came out as townie when Egor was scum?

he actually deflected from the Egork lynch day 1, and I didn't think his position on the day 2 wagon was particularly towny.

Plus, he tended to make few but rather long posts and explained most of his reads carefully. Seems like it's just his style, but I thought it was scummy at the time.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1187 on: June 29, 2015, 04:15:14 pm »

Oh, thanks, I guess.

I'm a little surprised over the shot at lekkit. I thought he came out as townie when Egor was scum?

he actually deflected from the Egork lynch day 1, and I didn't think his position on the day 2 wagon was particularly towny.

Plus, he tended to make few but rather long posts and explained most of his reads carefully. Seems like it's just his style, but I thought it was scummy at the time.

Mhm.. I guess some guys around here would've prefered a shot at awa, and myself too, if so only to get rid of another wagon ending up in the no-lynch dilemma.

Ah, well. When the item comes I indeed know what to do. Ehum.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1188 on: June 29, 2015, 04:31:34 pm »

I'm disappointed in many of you, especially those who have played a lot of games.  Folks need to read the setup (I'm not buying that "didn't read the setup = town" meme crap).

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1189 on: June 29, 2015, 04:31:53 pm »

Also, @ashersky: How did you know that Tara Maclay was in the setup?

The mod told me.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1190 on: June 29, 2015, 04:32:21 pm »

@hockey: can you confirm that you aren't holding 3 items right now?

@mail-mi: if you decide that messaging silverspawn regarding what we discussed at the karaoke bar is worth it, consider messaging hockey instead.

? why :c

You're not a mason.

Pretty sure no one is.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1191 on: June 29, 2015, 04:36:12 pm »

@hockey: can you confirm that you aren't holding 3 items right now?

@mail-mi: if you decide that messaging silverspawn regarding what we discussed at the karaoke bar is worth it, consider messaging hockey instead.

? why :c

You're not a mason.

Pretty sure no one is.

I'm pretty sure DD and Hockey are.

What did people miss in the setup?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1192 on: June 29, 2015, 04:36:21 pm »

Also, someone neighborized me yesterday, but hid their identity.  He claimed it was required and bad things would happen to me.

He also claimed that he had some setup knowledge and accused me and a second player of not being town OR scum.

My best guess, based on clues, is that it is one of the European players (so Awa, Lekkit, anyone else?) or wannabe Euros (WW, anyone else?).

Also, it was just a neighborhood, no flavor to it, and restricted to exactly 2 players.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1193 on: June 29, 2015, 04:38:10 pm »

Also, someone neighborized me yesterday, but hid their identity.  He claimed it was required and bad things would happen to me.

He also claimed that he had some setup knowledge and accused me and a second player of not being town OR scum.

My best guess, based on clues, is that it is one of the European players (so Awa, Lekkit, anyone else?) or wannabe Euros (WW, anyone else?).

Also, it was just a neighborhood, no flavor to it, and restricted to exactly 2 players.

Ugh, anonymous neighbors are worst neighbors.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1194 on: June 29, 2015, 04:38:43 pm »

@hockey: can you confirm that you aren't holding 3 items right now?

@mail-mi: if you decide that messaging silverspawn regarding what we discussed at the karaoke bar is worth it, consider messaging hockey instead.

? why :c

You're not a mason.

Pretty sure no one is.

I'm pretty sure DD and Hockey are.

What did people miss in the setup?

If DD and hockey are actually masons, I will delete my f.ds account and all posts I've ever made.  I am that sure they are lying now.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1195 on: June 29, 2015, 04:40:09 pm »

If they're lying, then mail-mi is lying.

Do you think that all of [mail-mi, DeDe, hockey] are scum?

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1196 on: June 29, 2015, 04:41:32 pm »

Also, @ashersky: How did you know that Tara Maclay was in the setup?

The mod told me.

Why did the mod tell you?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1197 on: June 29, 2015, 04:44:55 pm »

Also, someone neighborized me yesterday, but hid their identity.  He claimed it was required and bad things would happen to me.

He also claimed that he had some setup knowledge and accused me and a second player of not being town OR scum.

My best guess, based on clues, is that it is one of the European players (so Awa, Lekkit, anyone else?) or wannabe Euros (WW, anyone else?).

Also, it was just a neighborhood, no flavor to it, and restricted to exactly 2 players.

It's not me.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1198 on: June 29, 2015, 04:51:59 pm »

@hockey: can you confirm that you aren't holding 3 items right now?

@mail-mi: if you decide that messaging silverspawn regarding what we discussed at the karaoke bar is worth it, consider messaging hockey instead.

? why :c

You're not a mason.

Pretty sure no one is.

I'm pretty sure DD and Hockey are.

What did people miss in the setup?

If DD and hockey are actually masons, I will delete my f.ds account and all posts I've ever made.  I am that sure they are lying now.

please don't.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1199 on: June 29, 2015, 04:55:48 pm »

The only thing I noticed from rereading the setup another time was this:

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These role names need not follow established terminology.

which makes DeDe's 'watcher' more plausible.

Nothing suggests that there are no masons.

@ash: what makes you so sure?
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