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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #175 on: August 26, 2015, 09:15:41 pm »

huh. interesting.

I guess i'm on board for accepting it right now?
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #176 on: August 27, 2015, 09:50:42 am »

I accept.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #177 on: August 27, 2015, 10:22:32 am »

I accept.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #178 on: August 27, 2015, 10:54:25 am »

This is it then?

Gotta say I'm impressed by how lio managed to pull his head out of the rope here.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #179 on: August 27, 2015, 11:03:07 am »

"Impressed" is one word for it.

GG and I apologize for my last minute weakness.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #180 on: August 27, 2015, 12:22:09 pm »

I accept, obviously.

Can't wait to see the speccy (is there a speccy?), and to see the rest of the QTs.

I think that you can figure out what was happening at pretty much any point in the game by reading my QT with Russia.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #181 on: August 27, 2015, 12:24:18 pm »

I'm interested to also see the QT's. Mine weren't so exciting this game.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #182 on: August 27, 2015, 12:36:14 pm »

Walrus nooooooooooooooooooooo
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #183 on: August 27, 2015, 03:40:39 pm »

So it looks like Fall 1908 was where I really messed up. I had the draw then, but instead I focused more on keeping as many centers as possible and trying to get Turkey to go against Italy. Really I could pretty much have forced a stalemate by playing:

mid - por, egy - mid. Nothing can stop these moves from succeeding, and if I lose mor, I can just retreat to gib. I may have two disbands then, which would be and army and fleet in the eas/egy/pal/ara area.

I should also have played edi - den, not edi - bel. Even if Austria hadn't saved himself, the army is much better in den. I should have just forgotten about the mainland, because I could only delay losing it.

If I do these things, then next year I can move the fleet in mor/gib to mid with support from por, and move mid - ire. Nothing could be done to stop this either. Now I have mid, ire, and por, which means that I will be able to hold the mid atlantic ocean until they get F Spa (wc) or A spa, in addition to F egy or F hej, which will take a while. The season when they set that up, I send F nth or F nws to add another support to mid, and it can hold forever.

Meanwhile, I devote everything else to scandinavia. In 1909, I can do the kie-lvo convoy and then either crush F gbo or take Norway. I will have a few disbands, but I should have enough mainland armies which I can get rid of. Then in 1910 I can crush F bar and get Stp, maybe crush A fin too.

The idea is that I end up with the following scenario:

I have my home centers, por, den, swe, nwy, stp, for 8 total. My units are: F por, F mid, two fleets supporting mid, A den, A stp, two fleets supporting stp. With this setup, and the two Russian fleets destroyed, it should be impossible for them to ever break through.

I came up with this plan in spring 1909, and it was too late. It ended up working out, but I got a bit lucky. Anyway, couldn't resist sharing it now because it would have been really cool.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #184 on: August 27, 2015, 03:48:19 pm »

Huge thanks to ghostofmars for modding by the way, I thought he did a really great job.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #185 on: August 27, 2015, 05:25:11 pm »

Now i go for the solo! you fools!

I accept
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #186 on: August 27, 2015, 05:26:09 pm »

oh man. that was interesting. I'm sure I made a ton of mistakes that game.

also is the game usually that long? I kept expecting it to almost be over and then suddenly it swapped and we had to do something different.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #187 on: August 27, 2015, 06:13:02 pm »

I feel like 10 years is actually relatively short? I could be wrong.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #188 on: August 27, 2015, 07:36:30 pm »

ah well this is my first game so i have no background on to base it on. was still interesting.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Winter 1910 - Deadline August 27 - 9pm BST)
« Reply #189 on: August 27, 2015, 07:56:57 pm »

Sorry for dropping out of this, this game and others were just becoming too much for me. Congrats to everyone who won!
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #190 on: August 28, 2015, 05:42:04 pm »

Thanks everyone for playing. I'll post a bit longer about the game on Sunday or Monday. For now stuff to read:
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/QDjr4XKhVGrk
Sorry I stopped commenting the game after ADK dropped out.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #191 on: August 28, 2015, 06:10:02 pm »

So the Russia-Turkey QT is quite cool as well. Sad to see that TurkeyLeaks didn't really happen though.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #192 on: August 28, 2015, 06:13:00 pm »

Is there a link to the RIT QT?

I'm totally sold on this variant by the way. The classic board looks so dull now!
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #193 on: August 28, 2015, 06:25:23 pm »

http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/9AhuZMRYvsX8
RIT!

also its interesting going through and seeing how the game was played through others eyes.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #194 on: August 28, 2015, 11:05:44 pm »

Russia-britain got heated. Damn. And kind of philosophical at one point.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #195 on: August 29, 2015, 12:51:11 am »

You mean:

"Mammals learn through play behavior. One might say that human endeavors such as art, mathematics, law, and philosophy are, in some sense, games that we play to contextualize our complex animal experience."

Yeah I didn't have anything to say to that. He's not wrong.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #196 on: August 29, 2015, 03:32:38 am »

Yeah...in retrospect I can see that I may have taken things too far at times hahaha. I can get pretty emotional; hopefully it made for entertaining reading at least. But honestly it was a really great game with a lot of twists and turns, and I had a really fun time throughout.

Hydrad, you were a fantastic ally and I hope you enjoyed the game. liopoil, our interactions were delightfully intricate, and I don't actually consider you to be Judas Hitler. Special thanks to ghost for being a really great mod.

I may write more with my strategic retrospective later. But really I think the QTs sort of speak for themselves. GG all.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #197 on: August 29, 2015, 03:34:58 am »

I kinda wish I had made a QT just for me to post my notes and worries and thoughts as the game had gone on. By the time I thought of making one a few years had already past and i didn't want to start one late.

Also was fun being a ally with you walrus. We almost made the whole game without backstabbing eachother!
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #198 on: August 30, 2015, 10:24:28 am »

Is another game going to happen? I'm seriously considering joining if it does.
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Re: Diplomacy 5: 1900 variant (Game over - 4 way draw between BRIT)
« Reply #199 on: August 30, 2015, 11:14:52 am »

I kinda wish I had made a QT just for me to post my notes and worries and thoughts as the game had gone on. By the time I thought of making one a few years had already past and i didn't want to start one late.

Also was fun being a ally with you walrus. We almost made the whole game without backstabbing eachother!
I sent my thoughts to ghost along with my moves pretty much every season. Did anyone else do this?

Is another game going to happen? I'm seriously considering joining if it does.
I'd like to play a game without private communication; so no QTs, just the game thread. I think this is called gunboat? Anyway, it would be a totally different sort of game, alliances would not really be able to coordinate. It also would be much less of a time commitment. Anyway, that's what I'm interested in, not sure if others would like that sort of thing.
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