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[xxpittip]

i won't hammer someone who wouldn't be hammered otherwise.

Shouldn't you hammer someone at L-1 when you think they're scum and they've had the chance to claim, even if you're the only one willing to hammer them?

What i meant was that i won't hammer someone, who wouldn't be hammered if i woudn't have my PR.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Just in case people don't see it since it's at the bottom of the last page(for me at least) . I misread my PM somehow and got the wrong word for how I get powered up. I only realized just now because my support count is 0 in my personal qt. It's actually support for me as well.

[Hydrad]

Support: IG

[xxpittip]

If faust is actually a third party nothing happens when i hammer him (but i won't be able to use my PR a second time). So i don't want to hammer faust (voting him is no problem), since the chance that he is town is pretty much 0 and there is nothing to be gained for me.

Just in case people don't see it since it's at the bottom of the last page(for me at least) . I misread my PM somehow and got the wrong word for how I get powered up. I only realized just now because my support count is 0 in my personal qt. It's actually support for me as well.

This seems pretty weird, but not really like a scummy thing... I still think it's almost certain that whoever is Chrysalis has a power that works like IG's and faust's claimed powers and i'd rather have no PRs than scum + town PRs (trying to get "support" like that seems more risky for scum than for town, so the possible scum powers are propably stronger)

[Ichimaru Gin]

I must have missed that part of the flavor. I'll read it when I get home.  It's an interesting mechanic for sure though with deciding who to support since scum might get buffed too.

I don't know how useful whatever power I'll get is though, but I think a strict "support no one"  policy kind of sucks. it makes things kind of boring too.  Maybe it was accounted for in the setup as well. what if there's a scum PR that is buffed/activated when no one gets supported?

[ashersky]

Caught up.

This doesn't feel like a normal game at all, given some of the mechanics people are claiming.

[ashersky]

Faust claims he wins after meeting 4 objectives out of 7, and one of those 7 is surviving.

I think knowing the objectives would be helpful.  Like, if there are 4 pro-town objectives, we can just meet them right away and lynch him.  He gets his win and town is better off.

That's if he's telling the truth.  And if he's telling the truth, he should have no problem with that plan.

[EFHW]

Faust claims he wins after meeting 4 objectives out of 7, and one of those 7 is surviving.

I think knowing the objectives would be helpful.  Like, if there are 4 pro-town objectives, we can just meet them right away and lynch him.  He gets his win and town is better off.

That's if he's telling the truth.  And if he's telling the truth, he should have no problem with that plan.

I'm ok with this

[EFHW]

Support: IG

Isn't that kind of risky?

[Ghacob]

Faust claims he wins after meeting 4 objectives out of 7, and one of those 7 is surviving.

I think knowing the objectives would be helpful.  Like, if there are 4 pro-town objectives, we can just meet them right away and lynch him.  He gets his win and town is better off.

That's if he's telling the truth.  And if he's telling the truth, he should have no problem with that plan.

Seems reasonable.

Darn complications...

vote:e

[xxpittip]

I must have missed that part of the flavor. I'll read it when I get home.  It's an interesting mechanic for sure though with deciding who to support since scum might get buffed too.

I don't know how useful whatever power I'll get is though, but I think a strict "support no one"  policy kind of sucks. it makes things kind of boring too.  Maybe it was accounted for in the setup as well. what if there's a scum PR that is buffed/activated when no one gets supported?

That's an interesting thougt... It would make sense considering the flavor...
Can you explain how your PR works? How many supports do you need to get your power? Are there multiple stages of your power depending on how many supports you get?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Sure.
1. I have no idea what my power is, but I will when I get it.
2. I need 6 people to support me. They don't have to be alive I don't think, I just need 6 different people (I don't count) to support me at some point.
3. I either have it or I don't, there's no gradation of ability.

[faust]

@faust - why would town want to help you achieve your objectives?

Because once I won, I can play this game as a townie. I cannot play this game as a member of the mafia, and just sitting around doing nothing would be boring.

[faust]

Faust claims he wins after meeting 4 objectives out of 7, and one of those 7 is surviving.

I think knowing the objectives would be helpful.  Like, if there are 4 pro-town objectives, we can just meet them right away and lynch him.  He gets his win and town is better off.

That's if he's telling the truth.  And if he's telling the truth, he should have no problem with that plan.

Okay, here's the objectives:

1) Survive the game.
2) Get 8 players to support me.
3) Survive a day without a single vote (sadly, this is no longer possible today :/ I guess I should have full-claimed right away).
4) Survive the game longer than a certain town PR. This is of course an anti-town objective. I have the name of a town PR in the game, and I must oulive them. The bonus is I can confirm that PR is in the game should it come to claiming.
5) At the start of each day, I may choose a player. If that player gets lynched, I reach this objective. Not sure if I should divulge my choice today, might influence votes in a bad way.
6) Hammer a Chaos-aligned player.
7) This is a bit odd. I chose two players. If exactly one of them is Chaos-aligned, I win win Chaos. Otherwise, I win with Harmony.

So realistically, 2 can be achieved today, 3 can be achieved tomorrow. 5 I can do if I'm good. 6 sadly gets in the way of pit's power. 4 just might happen.

I'm okay with you lynching me once I've reached 3 conditions. Then it's basically 50/50 whether or not condition 7 will be fulfilled, and I guess I can still achieve 5 if I'm dead.

[faust]

It's actually 7 players for condition 2. I misread somehow.

[faust]

2. I need 6 people to support me. They don't have to be alive I don't think, I just need 6 different people (I don't count) to support me at some point.

It's weird that our support numbers differ by 1.

[Awaclus]

On second thoughts, I don't think it's a good idea to support IG or faust until one of them has flipped, because if one is telling the truth, the other is probably scum and vice versa.

[xxpittip]

Faust claims he wins after meeting 4 objectives out of 7, and one of those 7 is surviving.

I think knowing the objectives would be helpful.  Like, if there are 4 pro-town objectives, we can just meet them right away and lynch him.  He gets his win and town is better off.

That's if he's telling the truth.  And if he's telling the truth, he should have no problem with that plan.

Okay, here's the objectives:

1) Survive the game.
2) Get 8 players to support me.
3) Survive a day without a single vote (sadly, this is no longer possible today :/ I guess I should have full-claimed right away).
4) Survive the game longer than a certain town PR. This is of course an anti-town objective. I have the name of a town PR in the game, and I must oulive them. The bonus is I can confirm that PR is in the game should it come to claiming.
5) At the start of each day, I may choose a player. If that player gets lynched, I reach this objective. Not sure if I should divulge my choice today, might influence votes in a bad way.
6) Hammer a Chaos-aligned player.
7) This is a bit odd. I chose two players. If exactly one of them is Chaos-aligned, I win win Chaos. Otherwise, I win with Harmony.

So realistically, 2 can be achieved today, 3 can be achieved tomorrow. 5 I can do if I'm good. 6 sadly gets in the way of pit's power. 4 just might happen.

I'm okay with you lynching me once I've reached 3 conditions. Then it's basically 50/50 whether or not condition 7 will be fulfilled, and I guess I can still achieve 5 if I'm dead.

If i get to hammer today, you can have all the remaining hammers (unless there are even more PRs who need to hammer someone).

[faust]

On second thoughts, I don't think it's a good idea to support IG or faust until one of them has flipped, because if one is telling the truth, the other is probably scum and vice versa.

Hmm, why do you think that?

[silverspawn]

Vote count 1.4:

A Drowned Kernel (3): e, ashersky, Ichimaru Gin
e (3): Hydrad, chairs, Ghacob
ashersky (2): Pit, Joseph2302
Joseph2302 (1): Awaclus

Not voting (4): EFHW, faust, Seprix, ADK

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends at 8 May, 5 PM Forum Time.

[Awaclus]

On second thoughts, I don't think it's a good idea to support IG or faust until one of them has flipped, because if one is telling the truth, the other is probably scum and vice versa.

Hmm, why do you think that?

It sounds like one of you is Chrysalis, but you can't both be Chrysalis.

[Joseph2302]

On second thoughts, I don't think it's a good idea to support IG or faust until one of them has flipped, because if one is telling the truth, the other is probably scum and vice versa.

Hmm, why do you think that?

It sounds like one of you is Chrysalis, but you can't both be Chrysalis.

I agree. My MLP knowledge is limited, but it sounds like you're both trying to be the same character. Hence, one of you is probably lying i.e. scum.

[faust]

Well, I'm not Chrysalis. I'm Discord, and you can know that, because obviously that's not the kind of name you'd get as a fake flavor claim.

So trusting you for now, I should probably vote: Ichi

[2.71828.....]

Interesting stuff.  I haven't been able to process all of the claims and everything that has happened yet, but will get to it over this weekend.

[Seprix]

What's the name of Pit? It's That Crisco Cretin isn't it?