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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1325 on: March 21, 2015, 09:49:51 pm »

Vote: Awaclus, for unannounced, unexplained L-2 vote.

why do people always call that scummy?
Derphammers are a thing man. Him withholding his supposed reasons is bad too.

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uh.  Really?  I don't think so.  There was a phase when it happened a few games in a row, but generally....no.  They are not a thing.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1326 on: March 21, 2015, 09:55:53 pm »

Vote: Awaclus, for unannounced, unexplained L-2 vote.

You didn't complain when I did the exact same thing D1.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1327 on: March 21, 2015, 10:02:04 pm »

Vote: Awaclus, for unannounced, unexplained L-2 vote.

why do people always call that scummy?
Derphammers are a thing man. Him withholding his supposed reasons is bad too.

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uh.  Really?  I don't think so.  There was a phase when it happened a few games in a row, but generally....no.  They are not a thing.
They are a thing. There's no reason to on purpose not announce L-2, L-1 etc. unless you're scum.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1328 on: March 21, 2015, 10:17:19 pm »

They are a thing. There's no reason to on purpose not announce L-2, L-1 etc. unless you're scum.

Is there a reason to on purpose not announce L-3, L-4, L-5 and L-6 if you're town? No wait, you said "L-2, L-1 etc.", so I guess you already answered that and we should start announcing how many votes it takes to lynch every time we vote for someone.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1329 on: March 21, 2015, 10:18:31 pm »

Vote: Awaclus, for unannounced, unexplained L-2 vote.

You didn't complain when I did the exact same thing D1.
Can't find the post for it. I was probably away/busy/ill at the time.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1330 on: March 21, 2015, 10:20:14 pm »

They are a thing. There's no reason to on purpose not announce L-2, L-1 etc. unless you're scum.

Is there a reason to on purpose not announce L-3, L-4, L-5 and L-6 if you're town? No wait, you said "L-2, L-1 etc.", so I guess you already answered that and we should start announcing how many votes it takes to lynch every time we vote for someone.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1331 on: March 21, 2015, 10:20:44 pm »

They are a thing. There's no reason to on purpose not announce L-2, L-1 etc. unless you're scum.

Is there a reason to on purpose not announce L-3, L-4, L-5 and L-6 if you're town? No wait, you said "L-2, L-1 etc.", so I guess you already answered that and we should start announcing how many votes it takes to lynch every time we vote for someone.
Dah. The semantical nitpicks are starting to get super annoying. Announcing L-1 and L-2 is the tradition and for good reason.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1332 on: March 21, 2015, 10:24:26 pm »

Vote: Awaclus, for unannounced, unexplained L-2 vote.

You didn't complain when I did the exact same thing D1.
Can't find the post for it. I was probably away/busy/ill at the time.

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Here's the post: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=12607.msg470012#msg470012

You posted less than 60 minutes after that, so either you probably weren't away/busy/ill at the time or it didn't prevent you from posting.

They are a thing. There's no reason to on purpose not announce L-2, L-1 etc. unless you're scum.

Is there a reason to on purpose not announce L-3, L-4, L-5 and L-6 if you're town? No wait, you said "L-2, L-1 etc.", so I guess you already answered that and we should start announcing how many votes it takes to lynch every time we vote for someone.
Dah. The semantical nitpicks are starting to get super annoying. Announcing L-1 and L-2 is the tradition and for good reason.

PPE: e hahaha.

I don't really see how L-2 is fundamentally different from, say, L-4. Either way, it's going to take multiple people before a lynch happens.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1333 on: March 21, 2015, 10:26:35 pm »

Look, I don't make the rules or tradition--I just follow it because I think it makes sense. It's fine if you think otherwise.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1334 on: March 21, 2015, 10:28:19 pm »

It's fine if you think otherwise.

Then why complain about it?
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1335 on: March 21, 2015, 10:30:24 pm »

It's fine if you think otherwise.

Then why complain about it?
Is this the entire point of your little discussion?
You're entitled to your own opinion, but what that translates into in reality is other people announcing L-1 and L-2 for you--so it's not like if you truly disagree it makes any difference. It just means other people have to do stuff for you.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1336 on: March 21, 2015, 10:34:19 pm »

It's fine if you think otherwise.

Then why complain about it?
Is this the entire point of your little discussion?
You're entitled to your own opinion, but what that translates into in reality is other people announcing L-1 and L-2 for you--so it's not like if you truly disagree it makes any difference. It just means other people have to do stuff for you.

My what? You're the one who started this discussion, I was just planning to vote and then go back to lurking.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1337 on: March 21, 2015, 10:37:13 pm »

Never mind. I don't think you really believe that announcing L-1 and L-2 is bad or pointless, you're just trolling. Yeah, I said you should announce it cause that's what everyone normally does unless they forget--so why argue it? I don't know of anyone who doesn't announce on purpose all the time based on principle (until now?).

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1338 on: March 21, 2015, 10:38:03 pm »

Never mind. I don't think you really believe that announcing L-1 and L-2 is bad or pointless,

I think it is
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1339 on: March 21, 2015, 10:40:49 pm »

Never mind. I don't think you really believe that announcing L-1 and L-2 is bad or pointless,

I think it is
Well you're scum. I'm not going to defend this any further. Hopefully someone else besides me thinks you guys are crazy--though with how this day is going, I don't have much hope for that happening.

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1340 on: March 21, 2015, 10:41:27 pm »

Never mind. I don't think you really believe that announcing L-1 and L-2 is bad or pointless,

I think it is

pointless, not bad
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1341 on: March 21, 2015, 10:45:44 pm »

can we lynch ADK now?  And I am supposed to target faust, correct?
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1342 on: March 21, 2015, 10:51:51 pm »

Did someone make a case on ADK?

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1343 on: March 21, 2015, 11:04:41 pm »

Did someone make a case on ADK?

silverspawn.  His reasons are as follows, but you can find plenty more posts looking for an ADK lynch

I do, however, give ADK scum points for giving the slip so much weight. As scum, I found that I have a strong tendency to believe "slips" in order not to appear scumy.

my current reads in my current lynchpool:

ADK - feels off... and I he had this untypically emotional fight with Ichi. And I don't like how fast he gave up upon Ichi's town slip. Also, his scum read on me came out of nowhere.
Hydrad - Hydrad is hard to read, but I don't like his recent play. Plus he's been blending in.
Awaclus - has been blending in even more
WW - I can't read WW
chairs - kind of blending in but also making sense. feels normal.
IG - feels really genuine. I think with scum!IG you usually feel like something is wrong.

so, ADk, was
- fighting the massclaim
- voting for XP because he claimed
- overjustifies his actions
- says Ichi has a super towny role, but then he votes Ichi after he makes a good post, and then there is this huge fight with him.
- then there's the town slip reaction

well and now he put Hydrad at L-2 put unvoted in the same post because Hydrad... made a response?

well, a lot of that isn't necessarily scummy. but it seems different from how he usually plays.

For now, I still like my vote on Hydrad
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1344 on: March 21, 2015, 11:12:50 pm »

can we lynch ADK now?  And I am supposed to target faust, correct?

I'd rather we didn't.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1345 on: March 21, 2015, 11:46:14 pm »

We can Lynch ADK

Vote: ADK

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« Reply #1346 on: March 22, 2015, 12:04:52 am »

Vote Count 2.6

A Drowned Kernel (3): silverspawn, 2.71828....., Witherweaver
Witherweaver (2): A Drowned Kernel, faust
Ichimaru Gin (2): chairs, Awaclus
Joseph2302 (1): ashersky
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Awaclus (1): Joseph2302

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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1347 on: March 22, 2015, 06:13:25 am »

Yeah... I think I'm back to Vote: Ichi
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1348 on: March 22, 2015, 06:49:02 am »

I could definitely see ADK being scum, giving me 2 shots to poison because he thinks I'll just make bad calls with them. His play hasn't given me a town vibe.


Also, with the Awaclus/L-2 thing in D1, I didn't notice it was L-2, hence requesting a Vote Count. Then I didn't post for 20 hours, by which time is wasn't really relevant. Also, this feels like an argument over not much.
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Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« Reply #1349 on: March 22, 2015, 08:25:35 am »

Announcing L-2 is not a thing, or a tradition.  I'm fairly certain I am by far the longest tenured player in the game, so take my word for it.

Announcing L-1 is a thing.
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