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Author Topic: M58 : Flavorless mafia - Town wins !  (Read 125547 times)

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1100 on: March 04, 2015, 08:03:42 pm »

Hydrad was on L-1 from 06:50:39 to 06:55:31

that's 5 minutes. If IG is scum, he really messed up there.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1101 on: March 04, 2015, 08:04:53 pm »

Honestly. My internet has been acting up, and it decided to hang for like 5 minutes a little while back. I would have hammered Hydrad at that point if it hadn't because I am 100% sure he is scum.
So that's a null tell.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1102 on: March 04, 2015, 08:07:07 pm »

Honestly. My internet has been acting up, and it decided to hang for like 5 minutes a little while back. I would have hammered Hydrad at that point if it hadn't because I am 100% sure he is scum.
So that's a null tell.

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good point, you would have hammered him as town.

... wait, you're making an argument against your case.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1103 on: March 04, 2015, 08:10:31 pm »

Another thought - we know there is an alignment cop in this game. So voting before he claims is really bad. I didn't think about that, but I'm having a hard time believing that faust and XP didn't either... yeah, faust's vote really makes no sense if he's town.

back at your claims... they're both really logical targets. Honestly, the only target I don't like there is TA, because I don't think he was that scummy (and a guilty result > an innocent result). Needless to say, both of you claim to have targeted him N2, so it doesn't matter.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1104 on: March 04, 2015, 08:12:52 pm »

Difficult stuff. I think this warrants a big reread and a closer look at interactions. Right now I'm almost 50%/50%

and I'm tired. we have lots of time to solve this. Obviously, no-one should vote.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1105 on: March 04, 2015, 08:15:37 pm »

I agree. That being said, I wonder where everyone else is?
I'll have to leave in a little bit but will be back in like 4 hours.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1106 on: March 04, 2015, 08:46:39 pm »

Back from work! And wow, lots to read. Based on what I read, we lynch Hydrad or Faust. I like the Hydrad lynch.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1107 on: March 04, 2015, 08:49:43 pm »

Back from work! And wow, lots to read. Based on what I read, we lynch Hydrad or Faust. I like the Hydrad lynch.

You should read again.

The lynch should either be IG/Me as we are both claiming cops.

Also we could lynch faust as hes pretty much guaranteed to be scum but then we still have to decide between me  and IG next day.

This game is pretty much going to be decided if you pick correctly between me and IG.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1108 on: March 04, 2015, 08:53:04 pm »

not quite. even if we pick right and faust is scum, that still leaves #3. We need to make the right choice, and then make the right choice again.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1109 on: March 04, 2015, 08:58:52 pm »

not quite. even if we pick right and faust is scum, that still leaves #3. We need to make the right choice, and then make the right choice again.

True. I'm about 70% sure its XP though as you seem really towny and could have won the game if you and IG team up so I know your town. So that just leaves me with XP vs seprix.  and XP seems much scummier I think.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1110 on: March 04, 2015, 09:14:10 pm »

Hydrad is at L-1 Hammer him!

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1111 on: March 04, 2015, 09:19:35 pm »

Ya so Seprix is town also if hes not hammering.

Unless hes scum and this is IG trying to get seprix to notice that i'm L-1?
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1112 on: March 04, 2015, 09:24:57 pm »

well, scum just needs one more person to quickhammer. So, if you're town and XP is town, scum can quickhammer and we can't do anything about it. If that's the case, XP needs to unvote ASAP before Seprix comes online.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1113 on: March 04, 2015, 09:25:30 pm »

I can't believe I forgot about quickhammers when the day started...

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1114 on: March 04, 2015, 09:28:34 pm »

Uh. No. Hydrad is scum and needs to be lynched period.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1115 on: March 04, 2015, 09:28:41 pm »

If you're town, this also means that either XP screwed up (like me) or the scum team is IG, XP & faust

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1116 on: March 04, 2015, 09:29:33 pm »

Uh. No. Hydrad is scum and needs to be lynched period.

well, it certainly looks like it, because that narrative doesn't require Seprix to not realize that he can quickhammer.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1117 on: March 04, 2015, 09:30:04 pm »

This isn't a clean way to win though, because then I more or less just guessed right.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1118 on: March 04, 2015, 09:30:25 pm »

And now I really want to go to sleep. XP unvote when you read this.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1119 on: March 04, 2015, 10:01:18 pm »

unvote
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1120 on: March 04, 2015, 10:25:33 pm »

Something else to consider is that scum is absolutely the one to claim second here. They are absolutely going to wait it out and see what the my results are before possibly counterclaiming. They knew that I was going to claim today and have some results--if they didn't manage to kill me last night. But what if none of my results were terribly helpful? I doubt they would have counterclaimed then. They wouldn't risk fakeclaiming if my results or lack thereof could lead to an easy mislynch for them.

In this case though, I caught one of them. And they're doing everything they can to create chaos so that I might get mislynched and then they'll win.

Please. Please consider that and lynch Hydrad--and then faust tomorrow. I don't know that I can handle a repeat of Musical Mafia. Here though, I'm a PR. I have a 100% solid result and I'll be damned if I'm not going to fight to get scum lynched as hard as I possibly can.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1121 on: March 04, 2015, 10:28:15 pm »

of course you beat me. you posted your claim 30 minutes after the day started. I didn't have the game open when you did that.
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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1122 on: March 04, 2015, 10:28:28 pm »

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1123 on: March 04, 2015, 10:30:04 pm »

of course you beat me. you posted your claim 30 minutes after the day started. I didn't have the game open when you did that.
This isn't a question of availability. I'm saying that regardless of when you were here, you would have waited for me to claim first before considering your counterclaim.

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Re: M58 : Flavorless mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1124 on: March 04, 2015, 10:40:38 pm »

Back from work! And wow, lots to read. Based on what I read, we lynch Hydrad or Faust. I like the Hydrad lynch.

You should read again.

The lynch should either be IG/Me as we are both claiming cops.

Also we could lynch faust as hes pretty much guaranteed to be scum but then we still have to decide between me  and IG next day.

This game is pretty much going to be decided if you pick correctly between me and IG.
This is pretty damning right here. I wish I was a dayvig. Seriously though, why are you acting as if you and I are the only choices? If the day goes on and town isn't able to discern well enough that I'm the real cop, then we absolutely lynch faust.

You're framing this in such a way that it gives you better odds of killing me--instead of you or faust. Of course you don't want us to lynch faust today because then my results on faust will be confirmed, your partner will die, and we'll lynch you tomorrow.

And you're hoping that people will go along with you and mislynch me today so that you can win.
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