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[Chaos]

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In this game I decided to try just getting lots of rats and upgrading them into duchies although I'm not sure if it's a "thing". I did end up winning but it took a while (14 turns) and I think it was mainly because my opponent didn't expect it.

So is this a good plan and can it be faster? I think it could and that I got a bit unlucky with the upgrades not colliding with rats but that could just be my bias. Or is just not fast enough?

As a side note; what is the fastest possible three pile with perfect shuffle luck if you only buy rats, upgrade and money/green? Also, how fast can you do it in solo on Goko? (I don't have cards)

[faust]

I doubt that Rats/Upgrade is the best strategy here. It sure worked out nicely for you, but only because your opponent went for Rats as well. Emptying the Rats pile alone would take considerably longer. Note that all your opponent needs to beat your strategy is 2 Colonies and a Duchy (23 points vs 7*3=21 points from your Duchies). That should be possible before you can end the game. Once you lost that race, there's no way of coming back.

That said, if there ever was a board where your strategy might be viable, it's this one. So incredibly weak, and a BM player gets stopped by Militia. Getting Madmen and Forge to trash all your bad stuff at once might be a thing, but is also dangerous due to the presence of Militia. I'd probably just go Spice Merchant/Silver or Militia/Silver (Spice Merchant if I see you open Rats), some Upgrades, one or two Militias, and money.

[Polk5440]

Rats, Upgrade, and Fortress is a thing. In the game you played, without Fortress, emptying Duchies and three piles was more like an opportunity. Your opponent wasn't careful.

Rats, Upgrade can absolutely be useful; however, just not often is it going to be used with the end of three piling on Duchies in mind.

[dereeder]

After your T13 your deck was 1 duchy, 7 upgrade, 6 rats with an empty rats pile. You had no way to gain an eighth duchy except by upgrading upgrade into gold and buying it. He gave you the 3-pile opportunity when he bought a duchy himself.

[DG]

Trashing rats this way is rather haphazard without better drawing. Good drawing give you control of the rat combos. If your opponent had frequently played militia then you would have struggled with hand size. The big risk with this sort of strategy however is that you get behind on points and cannot do anything else apart from empty piles for your own defeat.

[liopoil]

This is excellent with a little bit of support. Your deck needs to be able to do more than just upgrade rats though, in general.

[soulnet]

I think you want Upgrade, Rats and Militia, and later Forge. Forge rats into Provinces FTW, or even upgrade Prov into Plats to buy Colonies. It will surely beat any BM.

EDIT: You want to open Militia/Silver because not getting Upgrade is a catastrophe and you can be left with too many Rats.

[liopoil]

oh there's forge? Yeah, do that. Also if you get enough upgrades you can just turn everything into provinces.

[enfynet]

Should one bother with Spice Merchant to clear your deck of Copper to hit the Upgrades more often?