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e, can you confirm that scum and town got the same type of flavor in their pm's?

--Flavor will be independent of alignment.

This is actually not quite true.  I forgot to correct it before the game began.  Scum have additional flavor names with a transmogrified flavor name and info that is independent of alignment.

[chairs]

e, can you confirm that scum and town got the same type of flavor in their pm's?

--Flavor will be independent of alignment.

This is actually not quite true.  I forgot to correct it before the game began.  Scum have additional flavor names with a transmogrified flavor name and info that is independent of alignment.

So to clarify, scum may have, for example, a name of "Jack Frost" with a safeclaim of, say, "The Nutcracker"?

[sudgy]

Vote: ashersky for not double checking his PM to see if he had flavor.  I thought I didn't and looked and saw I did.

[Joseph2302]

This seems to have been a massive debate over nothing, I blame ashersky too, for the "ooh, this is a massive scumslip" post.

Vote:ashersky.

[2.71828.....]

e, can you confirm that scum and town got the same type of flavor in their pm's?

--Flavor will be independent of alignment.

This is actually not quite true.  I forgot to correct it before the game began.  Scum have additional flavor names with a transmogrified flavor name and info that is independent of alignment.

So to clarify, scum may have, for example, a name of "Jack Frost" with a safeclaim of, say, "The Nutcracker"?

yes

[ashersky]

Vote: ashersky for not double checking his PM to see if he had flavor.  I thought I didn't and looked and saw I did.

Are you even reading?  I specifically called people out for NOT having flavor in their PM.

I'm actually convinced Silverspawn is scum.  You know who's pissy and indignant about town manipulating a break in the setup to win?  Scum.

Go read Major Arcana 2 and see the mafia response to getting caught out due to VT design there.  That's exactly silverspawn's reaction now.

[ashersky]

This seems to have been a massive debate over nothing, I blame ashersky too, for the "ooh, this is a massive scumslip" post.

Vote:ashersky.

You need a space between the colon and my username if you want that to count.

Also, it's extremely scummy to put someone to L-1 without announcing it.

[ashersky]

Okay, I have Yule Ham and a Macintosh Laptop.

On top of scummy voting, and the crap vote for ADK on food, I will counter claim you right now.

I have the Yule Ham in my PM.

Unless two players submitted Yule ham (which seems improbable, given I don't think it's even a thing), we now have 100% caught scum.

Just choose, vote: Joseph2302 or me.

[ashersky]

Not actually aT L-1, sudgy voted twice.  Not sure if the wishersky vote counted, either.

Lest you think I was misleading.

[Awaclus]

Okay, I have Yule Ham and a Macintosh Laptop.

On top of scummy voting, and the crap vote for ADK on food, I will counter claim you right now.

I have the Yule Ham in my PM.

Unless two players submitted Yule ham (which seems improbable, given I don't think it's even a thing), we now have 100% caught scum.

Just choose, vote: Joseph2302 or me.

Is it even possible for two people to have the same food in their PMs (if one of them is scum)?

[Joseph2302]

I knew it wasn't L-1, that's why I didn't need to warn.

Let's correct it then. Vote: Ashersky . This is L-2, I believe?

[EgorK]

Hmm, googling for Yule Ham shows pages with title "Christmas ham", so seems relevant and is probable for 2 people to have listed it. Also what point is for scum to provide incorrect flavor claim?

[Joseph2302]

Hmm, googling for Yule Ham shows pages with title "Christmas ham", so seems relevant and is probable for 2 people to have listed it. Also what point is for scum to provide incorrect flavor claim?

Yes, seems the Yule Ham is eaten in many countries, including Southern America, Nordic countries and Germanic countries. So by the sounds of it, lots of people here would eat this for Christmas, so 2 people choosing Yule Ham is a definite possibility. However, I did not submit Yule Ham as my food.

On a different note, I think Ashersky might be scum looking for a very quick lynch by getting rid of me. All he's done is accuse people of scumminess a lot.

[Joseph2302]

Mod: Can we have a vote count? (just to check the counting is correct)

[Seprix]

Wow. I don't even understand what's going on here. I mean, I've played Mafia IRL, but it's nothing like this. :s

And hi Silverspawn

[Joseph2302]

Wow. I don't even understand what's going on here. I mean, I've played Mafia IRL, but it's nothing like this. :s

And hi Silverspawn

This isn't particularly normal.
In the game I played + ones I've watched on here, normally Day 1 starts with some random accusations, people say things/defend themselves/try to accuse others, people build up opinions of others, and someone gets lynched. (I guess this is pretty similar to IRL Mafia)

Here, someone tried to talk about their flavour (place, food, present), and this started lots of arguments about the setup.

[ashersky]

Wow. I don't even understand what's going on here. I mean, I've played Mafia IRL, but it's nothing like this. :s

And hi Silverspawn

This isn't particularly normal.
In the game I played + ones I've watched on here, normally Day 1 starts with some random accusations, people say things/defend themselves/try to accuse others, people build up opinions of others, and someone gets lynched. (I guess this is pretty similar to IRL Mafia)

Here, someone tried to talk about their flavour (place, food, present), and this started lots of arguments about the setup.

Says the new guy.

[Teproc]

Vote Count 1.2

ashersky (4) : sudgy, Hydrad, chairs, Joseph2302
Hydrad (2) : Awaclus, faust
chairs (1) : A Drowned Kernel
A Drowned Kernel (1) : Witherweaver
Joseph2302 (1) : ashersky

Not Voting (3): silverspawn, EgorK, Seprix

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 will last 10 days. The deadline for Day 1 will be Saturday, December 27 at 6:30 pm forum time.

[Joseph2302]

Wow. I don't even understand what's going on here. I mean, I've played Mafia IRL, but it's nothing like this. :s

And hi Silverspawn

This isn't particularly normal.
In the game I played + ones I've watched on here, normally Day 1 starts with some random accusations, people say things/defend themselves/try to accuse others, people build up opinions of others, and someone gets lynched. (I guess this is pretty similar to IRL Mafia)

Here, someone tried to talk about their flavour (place, food, present), and this started lots of arguments about the setup.

Says the new guy.

I'm not the new guy, I'm the 2nd game guy, who has also lurked around for a while, so seen 5 or so games develop, and none quite like this. Are you telling me an argument about Yule Hams is normal then?

[Hydrad]

yay things are happening!

I'm thinking its a bit more likely that 2 people said yule ham then the fact that this is a way to find scum. I find it unlikely that e would of made a mistake like that. If all of us made food isn't it more likely that each one of us has another persons food as our favorite instead of the option that scum gets someone elses food?

I feel like i worded that poorly but hopefully my point still get across.

[faust]

Okay, I don't think we caught scum here, and ashersky should know we didn't. Voting still seems safe, so

vote: ashersky

[faust]

Wow. I don't even understand what's going on here. I mean, I've played Mafia IRL, but it's nothing like this. :s

And hi Silverspawn

If we can help with anything, just ask.

[A Drowned Kernel]

These votes on ashersky are kind of bullshit, anyone who's played with him before knows that this is his playstyle as scum or town. Based on how they've reacted here I think that chairs is a lot more likely to be scum than joseph, joseph actually checked his PM and unvoted before ash said anything, and two people having the same food doesn't really prove anything.

All that said, I don't see a reason not to post what we submitted and received so that we can figure what the hell is actually happening.

I submitted:

Stuffing
New Dominion expansions
Home

I received:

Olvieux salad
more Dominion expansions (not surprised I wasn't the only one to put this)
Equestria

[Joseph2302]

I submitted:
Food: Turkey with stuffing and all the vegetables (including Brussels Sprouts)
Present: PS3 games
Place: In bed

I received:
Food: Yule Ham
Present: Macintosh Laptop
Place: California

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Mistakes were made

Joseph2302 was supposed to have Vegetarian Decadent Beaver Powder with a side of Hot Ketchup and Head Cheese sent to him, but somehow in all the copy&paste I messed up and gave him yule ham.