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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2725 on: September 10, 2013, 08:39:35 pm »
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Wouldn't Good Guy Greg be more like this?

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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2726 on: September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm »
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Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2727 on: September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm »
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Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2728 on: September 10, 2013, 09:50:39 pm »
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Quote from: jaybeez on September 10, 2013, 08:39:35 pm
Wouldn't Good Guy Greg be more like this?


No, that's Purposely-Bad-At-Dominion-Greg.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2729 on: September 10, 2013, 10:07:53 pm »
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Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

I don't know what you mean...?
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2730 on: September 10, 2013, 10:47:39 pm »
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Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 10:07:53 pm
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

I don't know what you mean...?

The player with the Tunnels doesn't have to reveal them to get the Golds, and if it would lose for him, why would he?
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2731 on: September 10, 2013, 10:53:12 pm »
+1
Quote from: qbba on September 10, 2013, 10:47:39 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 10:07:53 pm
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

I don't know what you mean...?

The player with the Tunnels doesn't have to reveal them to get the Golds, and if it would lose for him, why would he?

Yeah. That's what I meant, sorry. The "them" had an unclear antecedent there.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2732 on: September 10, 2013, 10:56:14 pm »
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Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 10:53:12 pm
Quote from: qbba on September 10, 2013, 10:47:39 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 10:07:53 pm
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

I don't know what you mean...?

The player with the Tunnels doesn't have to reveal them to get the Golds, and if it would lose for him, why would he?

Yeah. That's what I meant, sorry. The "them" had an unclear antecedent there.

Ahh. Good point. But those Golds are just... so tempting.

Maybe Greg was slightly behind and his opponent is a gambler, but Greg managed to pull ahead that last turn. :)
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2733 on: September 11, 2013, 11:29:53 am »
+3
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

It's a Gardens game, and Greg's opponent is in the lead and Gold is the last pile to empty.  However, that Oracle drew more actions for Greg (when he had +actions to spare) and he ended up buying something during his buy phase that put him over the top.

At the time the Golds were gained, they were gained "for the win," (i.e. in such a way so that gaining them ensured that the game would end and at the time they were gained, the gaining player was in the lead) but it turned out that the other player lucked into a last-moment win instead.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2734 on: September 11, 2013, 11:31:18 am »
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Quote from: () | (_) ^/ on September 11, 2013, 11:29:53 am
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

It's a Gardens game, and Greg's opponent is in the lead and Gold is the last pile to empty.  However, that Oracle drew more actions for Greg (when he had +actions to spare) and he ended up buying something during his buy phase that put him over the top.

At the time the Golds were gained, they were gained "for the win," (i.e. in such a way so that gaining them ensured that the game would end and at the time they were gained, the gaining player was in the lead) but it turned out that the other player lucked into a last-moment win instead.

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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2735 on: September 11, 2013, 02:57:24 pm »
+2
Quote from: () | (_) ^/ on September 11, 2013, 11:29:53 am
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

It's a Gardens game, and Greg's opponent is in the lead and Gold is the last pile to empty.  However, that Oracle drew more actions for Greg (when he had +actions to spare) and he ended up buying something during his buy phase that put him over the top.

At the time the Golds were gained, they were gained "for the win," (i.e. in such a way so that gaining them ensured that the game would end and at the time they were gained, the gaining player was in the lead) but it turned out that the other player lucked into a last-moment win instead.

Duh.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2736 on: September 11, 2013, 03:03:33 pm »
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I just now had this exact realization:

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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2737 on: September 11, 2013, 03:11:48 pm »
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Had that one a long time ago
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2738 on: September 11, 2013, 03:13:11 pm »
+3
Well, not strictly more limited...
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2739 on: September 11, 2013, 03:56:48 pm »
+1
Quote from: () | (_) ^/ on September 11, 2013, 11:29:53 am
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

It's a Gardens game, and Greg's opponent is in the lead and Gold is the last pile to empty.  However, that Oracle drew more actions for Greg (when he had +actions to spare) and he ended up buying something during his buy phase that put him over the top.

At the time the Golds were gained, they were gained "for the win," (i.e. in such a way so that gaining them ensured that the game would end and at the time they were gained, the gaining player was in the lead) but it turned out that the other player lucked into a last-moment win instead.
except, you know that your opponent expects to take the lead this turn since he offered you the chance to discard your tunnels for the three pile, so you should not reveal them.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2740 on: September 11, 2013, 03:59:56 pm »
+1
though if they know that you should not reveal them, they should assume you won't reveal them, and so it would be better to leave them on top. Though I suppose there could be situations where you would rather have two tunnels on top of your deck instead of two random cards, and your opponent knows it is such a scenario because they saw your hand from a cutpurse or something.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2741 on: September 11, 2013, 04:01:11 pm »
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Quote from: liopoil on September 11, 2013, 03:59:56 pm
though if they know that you should not reveal them, they should assume you won't reveal them, and so it would be better to leave them on top. Though I suppose there could be situations where you would rather have two tunnels on top of your deck instead of two random cards, and your opponent knows it is such a scenario because they saw your hand from a cutpurse or something.

This discussion should probably be happening inside of a Princess Bride meme.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2742 on: September 11, 2013, 04:05:07 pm »
+1
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 10:56:14 pm
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 10:53:12 pm
Quote from: qbba on September 10, 2013, 10:47:39 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 10:07:53 pm
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

I don't know what you mean...?

The player with the Tunnels doesn't have to reveal them to get the Golds, and if it would lose for him, why would he?

Yeah. That's what I meant, sorry. The "them" had an unclear antecedent there.

Ahh. Good point. But those Golds are just... so tempting.

Maybe Greg was slightly behind and his opponent is a gambler, but Greg managed to pull ahead that last turn. :)

Uuhh... What? It's not like you had a choice to not reveal cards from the top of your deck for Oracle. Or reveal Tunnel from your hand to it. All of this "Why would you reveal them" makes no sense.

Edit: Oh yeah, reveal when discard... Sorry.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2013, 04:14:27 pm by Asper »
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2743 on: September 11, 2013, 04:05:53 pm »
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2744 on: September 11, 2013, 04:11:12 pm »
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Quote from: Asper on September 11, 2013, 04:05:07 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 10:56:14 pm
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 10:53:12 pm
Quote from: qbba on September 10, 2013, 10:47:39 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 10:07:53 pm
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

I don't know what you mean...?

The player with the Tunnels doesn't have to reveal them to get the Golds, and if it would lose for him, why would he?

Yeah. That's what I meant, sorry. The "them" had an unclear antecedent there.

Ahh. Good point. But those Golds are just... so tempting.

Maybe Greg was slightly behind and his opponent is a gambler, but Greg managed to pull ahead that last turn. :)

Uuhh... What? It's not like you had a choice to not reveal cards from the top of your deck for Oracle. Or reveal Tunnel from your hand to it. All of this "Why would you reveal them" makes no sense.

You get the gold when you reveal Tunnel as a result of discarding it.  The revealing that takes place with Oracle is separate.  So Oracle reveals two Tunnels, player makes you discard the Tunnels.  You then have the option to reveal each Tunnel for a Gold.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2745 on: September 11, 2013, 04:12:59 pm »
+1
Quote from: Witherweaver on September 11, 2013, 04:01:11 pm
Quote from: liopoil on September 11, 2013, 03:59:56 pm
though if they know that you should not reveal them, they should assume you won't reveal them, and so it would be better to leave them on top. Though I suppose there could be situations where you would rather have two tunnels on top of your deck instead of two random cards, and your opponent knows it is such a scenario because they saw your hand from a cutpurse or something.

This discussion should probably be happening inside of a Princess Bride meme.

Quote from: WalrusMcFishSr on September 11, 2013, 04:05:53 pm


It it coincidence we are discussing the same movie here as at the very bad card ideas thread?



Quote from: Witherweaver on September 11, 2013, 04:11:12 pm
Quote from: Asper on September 11, 2013, 04:05:07 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 10:56:14 pm
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 10:53:12 pm
Quote from: qbba on September 10, 2013, 10:47:39 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 10:07:53 pm
Quote from: GeoLib on September 10, 2013, 09:48:48 pm
Quote from: eHalcyon on September 10, 2013, 08:42:39 pm
Thereby emptying the Gold pile for the win! ;)

Why would you reveal them?

I don't know what you mean...?

The player with the Tunnels doesn't have to reveal them to get the Golds, and if it would lose for him, why would he?

Yeah. That's what I meant, sorry. The "them" had an unclear antecedent there.

Ahh. Good point. But those Golds are just... so tempting.

Maybe Greg was slightly behind and his opponent is a gambler, but Greg managed to pull ahead that last turn. :)

Uuhh... What? It's not like you had a choice to not reveal cards from the top of your deck for Oracle. Or reveal Tunnel from your hand to it. All of this "Why would you reveal them" makes no sense.

You get the gold when you reveal Tunnel as a result of discarding it.  The revealing that takes place with Oracle is separate.  So Oracle reveals two Tunnels, player makes you discard the Tunnels.  You then have the option to reveal each Tunnel for a Gold.

Oh, yeah, that does make sense...
Oops, sorry :P
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2746 on: September 12, 2013, 09:50:16 am »
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Quote from: GendoIkari on September 11, 2013, 03:03:33 pm
I just now had this exact realization:



The power of Black Market is inversely proportional to the balanced-ness of the board. If the board is missing one or two critical elements, Black Market can be a killer. If the board is generally either powerful or weak, Black Market rarely adds much.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2747 on: September 12, 2013, 11:25:18 am »
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NOT A MEME

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JUST CAUGHT UP ON THIS THREAD FROM JANUARY
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #2748 on: September 12, 2013, 11:28:47 am »
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« Reply #2749 on: September 12, 2013, 11:47:55 am »
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Scroll back to January and read all of this thread without stopping... every single word. You'll relate.
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