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#### Beyond Awesome

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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3750 on: August 11, 2014, 12:42:49 pm »
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... After playing my first Horn he sees I can probably pile out Provinces and he says "gg" to me, to which I reply that I'm \$1 short of ending the game this turn and I was calculating what I should do about it.

He points out to me that I could have just Counterfeited a Horn and that I should resign the game out of shame.

He was wrong. He should resign the next two games you guys play out of shame.

You had exactly 8 uniques in play, including Horn of Plenty. If you trash the horn for a province, the second time you play it you have only 7 unique cards in play

Except that he had 7 horns so he would still have 8 uniques in play.
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#### liopoil

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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3751 on: August 11, 2014, 12:44:25 pm »
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... After playing my first Horn he sees I can probably pile out Provinces and he says "gg" to me, to which I reply that I'm \$1 short of ending the game this turn and I was calculating what I should do about it.

He points out to me that I could have just Counterfeited a Horn and that I should resign the game out of shame.

He was wrong. He should resign the next two games you guys play out of shame.

You had exactly 8 uniques in play, including Horn of Plenty. If you trash the horn for a province, the second time you play it you have only 7 unique cards in play

Except that he had 7 horns so he would still have 8 uniques in play.
No, any horns he plays before the counterfeit get trashed too.
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#### SirPeebles

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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3752 on: August 11, 2014, 01:11:55 pm »
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... After playing my first Horn he sees I can probably pile out Provinces and he says "gg" to me, to which I reply that I'm \$1 short of ending the game this turn and I was calculating what I should do about it.

He points out to me that I could have just Counterfeited a Horn and that I should resign the game out of shame.

He was wrong. He should resign the next two games you guys play out of shame.

You had exactly 8 uniques in play, including Horn of Plenty. If you trash the horn for a province, the second time you play it you have only 7 unique cards in play

Nick won the game. I think his comment went exactly as planned.
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3753 on: August 11, 2014, 01:45:22 pm »
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Nick won the game. I think his comment went exactly as planned.

Regardless, we both laughed for a long time after I resigned the game. It was totally worth it. The fact that I got bamboozled means we'll laugh even more.
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3754 on: August 11, 2014, 01:48:05 pm »
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Nick won the game. I think his comment went exactly as planned.

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#### Minotaur

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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3755 on: August 11, 2014, 03:20:39 pm »
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... After playing my first Horn he sees I can probably pile out Provinces and he says "gg" to me, to which I reply that I'm \$1 short of ending the game this turn and I was calculating what I should do about it.

He points out to me that I could have just Counterfeited a Horn and that I should resign the game out of shame.

He was wrong. He should resign the next two games you guys play out of shame.

You had exactly 8 uniques in play, including Horn of Plenty. If you trash the horn for a province, the second time you play it you have only 7 unique cards in play

I think the point is that he would still play the first Horn for not-a-Victory-card, but then Counterfeit the next Horn?

EDIT:  Oh, I see.  The first Horn could've been a Province anyway... It would take more than one Counterfeit to do what I just suggested for a net gain.
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3756 on: August 11, 2014, 06:49:17 pm »
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Donald, I hope this is an acceptable use of your image.

Can we get a thread lock? It's only going to get worse from here.
Still hasn't beat the op.

It looks like it has now!

I'd like to thank Donald X for making all this possible.  Couldn't have done it without you, man.
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#### Donald X.

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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3757 on: August 11, 2014, 07:43:12 pm »
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It looks like it has now!

I'd like to thank Donald X for making all this possible.  Couldn't have done it without you, man.
I'm there for you. Plus now I know what to go as for Halloween.
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3758 on: August 11, 2014, 08:06:55 pm »
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It looks like it has now!

I'd like to thank Donald X for making all this possible.  Couldn't have done it without you, man.
I'm there for you. Plus now I know what to go as for Halloween.

For Halloween? .... You mean walk around with a cardboard cutout around you that has the "Stache" card frame?

Because I'll will be very disappointed if you don't actually grow that mustache for every-day purposes.
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3759 on: August 13, 2014, 11:06:59 am »
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Does it go to the bottom of your deck even if it is in your hand? I think the way worded now, yes.

No, because it's worded the same as Stash. If you were completely literal in the reading of Stash, it also fails to say "if this is in your discard pile", but it's clear that that's what it means. As I mentioned in some other thread recently; a completely literal reading of Stash would allow you to just take them from the supply whenever you shuffle.

While the Stash ruling applies to the Supply out of necessity (otherwise you can just gain all of them at once for free), it does not work as precedent for moving from hand.  Stash says "you may", which means that it doesn't automatically get pulled out of your hand.  The question is, can you choose to move them out of your hand and into your deck when you reshuffle?  You may want to when playing a draw-to-X card.  I don't think the FAQ covers this, actually.  The answer to that determines the answer to whether Staches in hand get pulled into the deck when you reshuffle.

This FAQ covers it, with a link to a post from Donald about it: http://boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/Complete_and_All-Encompassing_Dominion_FAQ

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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3760 on: August 15, 2014, 10:04:03 am »
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Congrats on me finishing all 151 pages of this awesome thread.

Also i'm definitely not the first one to notice that, but didn't find any mention in this thread so...

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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3761 on: August 15, 2014, 10:07:49 am »
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Spy => Scrying pool
Scout => Apothecary
Feast/Ironworks => University
Cache => Philosopher's stone
Pr(ov)ince => Possession
Estate => Vineyard
Seems legit.
WAAAAIT ? And Transmute ?
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3762 on: August 15, 2014, 10:09:45 am »
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3763 on: August 15, 2014, 10:21:38 am »
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WAAAAIT ? And Transmute ?

Chapel!!

Yeah! Transmute can give you Gold, Duchies, or more Transmutes. Stupid Chapel doesn't give you ANYTHING when it trashes cards!
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3764 on: August 15, 2014, 01:02:40 pm »
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WAAAAIT ? And Transmute ?

Chapel!!

Yeah! Transmute can give you Gold, Duchies, or more Transmutes. Stupid Chapel doesn't give you ANYTHING when it trashes cards!

Plus you're stuck with a dead card afterwards! Transmute can do things all game!
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#### Minotaur

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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3765 on: August 15, 2014, 01:27:07 pm »
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WAAAAIT ? And Transmute ?

Chapel!!

Yeah! Transmute can give you Gold, Duchies, or more Transmutes. Stupid Chapel doesn't give you ANYTHING when it trashes cards!

Plus you're stuck with a dead card afterwards! Transmute can do things all game!

Also, King's Court, amirite?
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3766 on: August 15, 2014, 01:27:24 pm »
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WAAAAIT ? And Transmute ?

Chapel!!

Yeah! Transmute can give you Gold, Duchies, or more Transmutes. Stupid Chapel doesn't give you ANYTHING when it trashes cards!

Plus you're stuck with a dead card afterwards! Transmute can do things all game!

But you can use a Bomb on Chapel to get rid of it!
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3767 on: August 15, 2014, 01:34:07 pm »
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I'm not sure that's intentional, because every set has a curser, and a trasher, and a gainer, and the costs for those effects are going to line up because that's what need to be for balance. Still cool though.
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3768 on: August 15, 2014, 01:49:28 pm »
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I'm not sure that's intentional, because every set has a curser, and a trasher, and a gainer, and the costs for those effects are going to line up because that's what need to be for balance. Still cool though.
Every set also has a Lab variant. The costs for those effects are \$4-\$6 (\$4 being Caravan and Advisor, \$6 being Nobles).
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3769 on: August 15, 2014, 01:55:49 pm »
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3770 on: August 20, 2014, 02:09:37 pm »
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3771 on: August 24, 2014, 01:19:01 pm »
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3772 on: August 24, 2014, 01:43:57 pm »
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Scout and 4 Mystics in hand, Scout reveals 4 green cards.
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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3773 on: August 24, 2014, 02:08:22 pm »
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Scout and 4 Mystics in hand, Scout reveals 4 green cards.

Been there, memed it

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##### Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #3774 on: August 24, 2014, 02:18:45 pm »
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I'm not sure that's intentional, because every set has a curser, and a trasher, and a gainer, and the costs for those effects are going to line up because that's what need to be for balance. Still cool though.
Every set also has a Lab variant. The costs for those effects are \$4-\$6 (\$4 being Caravan and Advisor, \$6 being Nobles).

Wishing Well is Intrigue's lab variant. Also, Alchemist costs \$3P.
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