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[nkirbit]

Recombobulator is also decent against undertaker.

[Jorbles]

Recombobulator is also decent against undertaker.

How so?

[Titandrake]

Recombobulator is also decent against undertaker.

How so?

Most 1 drops are terrible so it's basically like a silence. Not amazing, but it's okay.

[Jorbles]

Recombobulator is also decent against undertaker.

How so?

Most 1 drops are terrible so it's basically like a silence. Not amazing, but it's okay.

But it only works on friendly minions.

[nkirbit]

Oh, oops, didn't realize the friendly part.  Not relevant against undertaker other than being a 2 mana 3/2.

[ycz6]

Recombobulator would be far and away the best card in the game if it worked on opposing minions

[ashersky]

Recombobulator would be far and away the best card in the game if it worked on opposing minions

Which means there will be a Legendary that does that just at some point.

[ashersky]

Can someone tell me how Goblin Experimenter is useful?

[ycz6]

It's a solid 2-drop body for 3 mana which draws a card. Compare to Gnomish Inventor, which is an okay 3-drop body for 4 mana which draws a card.

[KingZog3]

Can someone tell me how Goblin Experimenter is useful?

In spell heavy decks, it draws you a card. 3 mana 3/2 draw a card is amazing. And it's also not as bad as you think in arena. Sure, you get a chicken, but it's still something. And if tou drafted spells there is a chance it's amazing.

But it's so risky you'd never run it in constructed. It's only ever played if you get two much worse choices in arena.

[Jorbles]

Can someone tell me how Goblin Gnomish Experimenter is useful?

In spell heavy decks, it draws you a card. 3 mana 3/2 draw a card is amazing. And it's also not as bad as you think in arena. Sure, you get a chicken, but it's still something. And if tou drafted spells there is a chance it's amazing.

But it's so risky you'd never run it in constructed. It's only ever played if you get two much worse choices in arena.

I feel like I really want it to be better than it is. I wish the chicken cost 0 mana because then it would be either great or a razorfen hunter.

[nkirbit]

Recombobulator would be far and away the best card in the game if it worked on opposing minions

Which means there will be a Legendary that does that just at some point.

Haha, well, it was Tinkmaster, then they decided tinkmaster was too good so nerfed it.

[popsofctown]

Just had my first flame leviathan experience.  I had nothing but 2 health minions on board because i was playing around flamestrike, not conseecration (had more in hand, but not enough to rebuild after a FREE consecration)

[markusin]

While playing around with a Jeeves Warlock zoo deck, I realized that zoo decks have very little reason to run Soulfire instead of Power Overwhelming now that Soulfire costs 1 mana. Zoo usually has an expendable Spectral Spider or a Nerubian Egg as a target for P. Overwhelming. Losing your weakest minion on the board seems like it's often better than discarding a random card from your hand, and zoo usually has stuff on the board in the first place. I guess there are decks that can run both, but having no Soulfires means you never have to worry about tough Doomguard + Soulfire in hand decisions.

Handlock is different because they're okay with having a mostly empty board or one with just Ancient Watcher, so they have reason to prefer Soulfire. Now there's Dark Bomb though.

[Jorbles]

While playing around with a Jeeves Warlock zoo deck, I realized that zoo decks have very little reason to run Soulfire instead of Power Overwhelming now that Soulfire costs 1 mana. Zoo usually has an expendable Spectral Spider or a Nerubian Egg as a target for P. Overwhelming. Losing your weakest minion on the board seems like it's often better than discarding a random card from your hand, and zoo usually has stuff on the board in the first place. I guess there are decks that can run both, but having no Soulfires means you never have to worry about tough Doomguard + Soulfire in hand decisions.

Handlock is different because they're okay with having a mostly empty board or one with just Ancient Watcher, so they have reason to prefer Soulfire. Now there's Dark Bomb though.

I actually took Egg, Soulfire and Power Overwhelming out of my Zoo deck and its win rate went up. GvG cards I use in it are Clockwork Gnome, Yeti, Enhance-O, Imp-Plosion and Dark Bomb. Aside from that it's got your normal Zoo-ish stuff (Undertaker, Harvest, Knife Juggler, Haunted Creeper, Defender, etc.)

[markusin]

While playing around with a Jeeves Warlock zoo deck, I realized that zoo decks have very little reason to run Soulfire instead of Power Overwhelming now that Soulfire costs 1 mana. Zoo usually has an expendable Spectral Spider or a Nerubian Egg as a target for P. Overwhelming. Losing your weakest minion on the board seems like it's often better than discarding a random card from your hand, and zoo usually has stuff on the board in the first place. I guess there are decks that can run both, but having no Soulfires means you never have to worry about tough Doomguard + Soulfire in hand decisions.

Handlock is different because they're okay with having a mostly empty board or one with just Ancient Watcher, so they have reason to prefer Soulfire. Now there's Dark Bomb though.

I actually took Egg, Soulfire and Power Overwhelming out of my Zoo deck and its win rate went up. GvG cards I use in it are Clockwork Gnome, Yeti, Enhance-O, Imp-Plosion and Dark Bomb. Aside from that it's got your normal Zoo-ish stuff (Undertaker, Harvest, Knife Juggler, Haunted Creeper, Defender, etc.)

That's something to consider. Thing is my deck is quite different from the pre-GvG zoo decks. The only cards I have above 2 mana right now are 2 Jeeves, 1 Hobgoblin, 1 Enhance-o, 1 Doomguard, and 1 Sea Giant. None of that Abusive Sarge or Defender or Dark Iron stuff. Actually my deck's best matchup is against that kind of zoo.  I'm thinking of swapping the enhance-o for something else, maybe Void Terror. Even with a full board, the inconsistency of Enhance-o's effect hurts its utility somewhat. AOE like Brawl, Equality, Explosive Trap from Scientist, and Doomsayer+Frost Nova is my biggest weakness right now, so I'm hoping Egg can help there.

[KingZog3]

I kept egg in, but took argus out. Argus really sucks a lot of the time, unless you're already doing well as zoo.

[ashersky]

I've been having fun when this works out as Pally:

T3: Sword of Justice
T4: Muster for Battle
T5: Quartermaster

[shraeye]

I kept egg in, but took argus out. Argus really sucks a lot of the time, unless you're already doing well as zoo.

I don't know; maybe I run a different zoo (read: budget) but my Argus does work.  I can force people to make bad trades, protect my real damage dealers.  Maybe it's an issue of me playing in the crappy tiers; one day, I'll invest some time and actually see how far I can push on ladder instead of seeing how far 12 games/month gets me.

[KingZog3]

I kept egg in, but took argus out. Argus really sucks a lot of the time, unless you're already doing well as zoo.

I don't know; maybe I run a different zoo (read: budget) but my Argus does work.  I can force people to make bad trades, protect my real damage dealers.  Maybe it's an issue of me playing in the crappy tiers; one day, I'll invest some time and actually see how far I can push on ladder instead of seeing how far 12 games/month gets me.

My zoo deck is essentially undertaker, deathrattle, mechwarper + mechs and all the minions are annoting and sticky. I even only have 1 doom guard, so i don't really need to worry about discard .it works really well.

[markusin]

I kept egg in, but took argus out. Argus really sucks a lot of the time, unless you're already doing well as zoo.

I don't know; maybe I run a different zoo (read: budget) but my Argus does work.  I can force people to make bad trades, protect my real damage dealers.  Maybe it's an issue of me playing in the crappy tiers; one day, I'll invest some time and actually see how far I can push on ladder instead of seeing how far 12 games/month gets me.

My zoo deck is essentially undertaker, deathrattle, mechwarper + mechs and all the minions are annoting and sticky. I even only have 1 doom guard, so i don't really need to worry about discard .it works really well.

I basically have the same thing with my Jeeves deck, but it's stalling at rank 10. Too many unfavourable matchups there. Lots of control Warriors and Hunters with early weapons. Even a few freeze mages, but the eggs help there quite a bit.

[markusin]

All the Control Warriors seem to be running Baron Geddon now. My super low curve deck just can't deal with that on top of all the weapons, Belchers, and Brawl. Now I want to try a stickier, higher curve Warlock Mech deck.

[popsofctown]

If you can't stay ahead enough to play argus, that would mean the meta is just not accepting of zoo right now

[markusin]

Has anyone here tried out Echo of Medihv? Can it work in a Mech Mage deck, or is it only good in those stall decks with giants, Belchers, and Antique Healbots?

[KingZog3]

Echo is better than it looks. I've only tried it in arena though, so I haven't experimented with it much yet.