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[Jorbles]

The 4 drops vary in stats but they are usually formidable and help you follow up the aggressive 6-attack of the Sky Golem.

Here's all the 4-cost minions sorted by health: http://www.hearthhead.com/cards=4.0?filter=stat-cost-min=4;stat-cost-max=4#text:0+9+8+2

There are some new cards on the low end, particularly Mini-Mage, Enhance-o Mechano, and Jeeves, but we also got Mechanical Yeti and Lost Tallstrider. So I'd generally agree that the 4-costs are pretty strong on average.

I think some of those low end cards you listed are going to be pretty good in certain decks. (not mini mage, that card is garbage). In a deck where you can expect to have 3 or 4 minions on the board at some point (zoo) Enhance-O will get a lot of value. Jeeves will be good I think in Paladin Divine Favour decks and maybe some other forms of aggro (again maybe Zoo?), not sure about that one, but it seems like someone will be able to work out a way to balance all that free card draw in a way that works for them.

[ycz6]

The 4 drops vary in stats but they are usually formidable and help you follow up the aggressive 6-attack of the Sky Golem.

Here's all the 4-cost minions sorted by health: http://www.hearthhead.com/cards=4.0?filter=stat-cost-min=4;stat-cost-max=4#text:0+9+8+2

There are some new cards on the low end, particularly Mini-Mage, Enhance-o Mechano, and Jeeves, but we also got Mechanical Yeti and Lost Tallstrider. So I'd generally agree that the 4-costs are pretty strong on average.

There are also the class specific ones to consider as well.

Oh yeah. Here's the real list: http://www.hearthhead.com/cards=4?filter=stat-cost-min=4%3Bstat-cost-max=4#text:0-4+2

[markusin]

The 4 drops vary in stats but they are usually formidable and help you follow up the aggressive 6-attack of the Sky Golem.

Here's all the 4-cost minions sorted by health: http://www.hearthhead.com/cards=4.0?filter=stat-cost-min=4;stat-cost-max=4#text:0+9+8+2

There are some new cards on the low end, particularly Mini-Mage, Enhance-o Mechano, and Jeeves, but we also got Mechanical Yeti and Lost Tallstrider. So I'd generally agree that the 4-costs are pretty strong on average.

I think some of those low end cards you listed are going to be pretty good in certain decks. (not mini mage, that card is garbage). In a deck where you can expect to have 3 or 4 minions on the board at some point (zoo) Enhance-O will get a lot of value. Jeeves will be good I think in Paladin Divine Favour decks and maybe some other forms of aggro (again maybe Zoo?), not sure about that one, but it seems like someone will be able to work out a way to balance all that free card draw in a way that works for them.

Oh, but we were talking about the 4-drops in the context of being summoned by Piloted Sky Golem's deathrattle. No battlecries are activated when dropped from a piloted mech, so Enhance-o-Mechano is just a 3/2. At the same time, I wouldn't consider Mini-mage garbage when dropped from Sky Golem. It's still a 4-attack Worgen Infiltrator due to its stealth and so you still have a good chance to attack with it.

[HiveMindEmulator]

Finally able to log in after 4 hours. At least it gave me time to start playing Dominion again and gain like 1000 rating points.

[Jorbles]

Got in and the shop was closed . I still got to open my complimentary packs though. I'll do an ashersky style light for this (no commons).

1: Illuminator, Imp-losion
2: Call Pet
3: Metal Tooth Leaper (Gold), Lil Exorcist

[Twistedarcher]

All I wanna do is play arena :/

[ashersky]

14 packs:

1: Gilbin Stalker, Lost Tailstrider, Mechwarper, Unstable Portal, Crackle
2: Darkbomb, Cogmaster, Mistress of Pain, Piloted Shredder, Explosive Sheep
3: Mech-Bear-Cat, Hobgoblin, Snowchugger, Explosive Sheep, Cogmaster
4: Shrinkmeister, Unstable Portal, Flamecannon, Cobra Shot, Seal of Light
5: Clockwork Gnome, Seal of Light, Stonesplinter Trogg, Unstable Portal, Imp-losion
6: Cogmaster, Cobra Shot, Muster for Battle, Anodized Robo Cub, Spider Tank
7: Piloted Shredder, Warbot, Glaivezooka, Mech-Bear-Cat, Druid of the Fang
8: Soot Spewer, Cobra Shot, Warbot, Micro Machine, Gnomeregan Infantry
9: King of Beasts, Cogmaster, Ogre Warmaul, Force-Tank MAX, Lost Tailstrider
10: Darkbomb, Giblin Stalker, Crackle, Muster for Battle, Shrinkmeister
11: Crackle, Crackle, Piloted Shredder, Cogmaster, Dunemaul Shaman
12: Upgraded Repair Bot, Tinker's Sharpsword Oil, Ogre Warmaul, Whirling Zap-o-matic, Quartermaster
13: Mech-Bear-Cat, Antique Healbot, Druid of the Fang, Lil' Exorcist, Crackle
14: Troggzor the Earthinator, Floating Watcher, Madder Bomber, Cobra Shot, Gilbin Stalker

7 more:

1: Darkbomb, Ogre Warmaul, Velen's Chosen, Goblin Blastmage, Recombobulator
2: Goblin Auto-Barber, Darkbomb, Lil' Exorcist, Cobra Shot, Annoy-o-Tron
3: Cobra Shot, Shieldmaiden, Giblin Stalker, Goblin Auto-Barber, Salty Dog
4: Ogre Brute, Flamecannon, Clockwork Gnome, Gnomeregan Infantry, Powermace
5: Glaivezooka, Goblin Sapper, Bomb Lobber, Seal of Light, Recombobulator
6: Cobra Shot, Gnomeregan Infantry, Mech-Bear-Cat, Micro Machine, Flamecannon
7: Floating Watcher, Floating Watcher, Druid of the Fang, Annoy-o-Tron, Siege Engine

[ashersky]

Made a quick Mech/Deathrattle Zoo deck to play around.

I included the 4/4 gain 2/2 when you take damage on your turn dudes, and they are pretty strong so far.

[markusin]

Got in and the shop was closed . I still got to open my complimentary packs though. I'll do an ashersky style light for this (no commons).

Sweet, shop is back online. I was playing Civilization: Beyond Earth while it was down.

[KingZog3]

Got in and the shop was closed . I still got to open my complimentary packs though. I'll do an ashersky style light for this (no commons).

Sweet, shop is back online. I was playing Civilization: Beyond Earth while it was down.

It reopened around 1am eastern US time.

[popsofctown]

I just accidentally bought 50 base packs

fuck shit shit fuck fuck fuck fuck shit fuck shit fuck damn damn

[KingZog3]

I just accidentally bought 50 base packs

fuck shit shit fuck fuck fuck fuck shit fuck shit fuck damn damn

Someone said somewhere they are allowing a one time take back or something. You're not the first to do this. But really, how hard is it to buy the right packs?

[popsofctown]

The problem is that the UI defaults the choice to base packs before you choose the amounts.  It's like if you went to the store to by beer cans, and you told the clerk that's what you wanted, and the clerk said, "ok, how many bud lights do you want?" and you say forty.

It was frustratig to keep spamming the store trying to get packs because most of the time it failed because the store was down.  i managed to select gvg every other time.

[HiveMindEmulator]

Is it possible to choose a large number of packs without repeatedly clicking?

[popsofctown]

There's lots of ergonomic factors contributing to make it not a hard mistake to make

50 pack bundle is one click, i dunno what HME is talking about.

Apparently streamers like trump have made the mistake on stream

[nkirbit]

Is it possible to choose a large number of packs without repeatedly clicking?

Yes.  If you click in the leftmost icon, the 1 pack 100 gold icon, it'll give you the option to type in a number.

[popsofctown]

i bought the packs with cash

[nkirbit]

That's a bummer, hopefully it will get changed for you.  Do you think they should just have a confirmation screen where it says, "You are buying 50 classic packs" or something like that?  The fact that so many people are making this mistake means that it's probably not a good enough system as is.

[popsofctown]

That's a bummer, hopefully it will get changed for you.  Do you think they should just have a confirmation screen where it says, "You are buying 50 classic packs" or something like that?  The fact that so many people are making this mistake means that it's probably not a good enough system as is.

The core issue is that clicking "Shop" selects a product.  Clicking a button that says "I want to buy something" shouldn't select a product as if the button means "I want to buy something, classic packs".  Defaults are useful if you're picking out a color scheme for a menu that can be changed at will whenever, defaults are not useful for funneling an irreversible purhcase.

The normal store experience is "Welcome to store -> What type of item would you like to buy? -> How many of that item would you like to buy? -> Confirm".  We cognitively expect that procedure and when step two is omitted unceremoniously it's easy to miss.

[popsofctown]

It's not even the best default...  if you walk into a comic book shop and ask for magic packs, 99% of the time they will tell you that you have options and the other 1% of the time they'll hand you packs from the most recent expansion

[popsofctown]

My support ticket has been answered already.  They mentioned amaz making the same mistake on stream and said they'll reset my account to the moment before the bad purchase.  They can only do this once, apparently, and never ever again in the history of my account.  I hope they fix the ergonomics issue because I think I could make the same mistake again.

Until the reset hits any gold earned or matches i win doesn't count.  I guess i'll check and see if it's happened yet.

[popsofctown]

My account is suspended, can't log in.

I'm temporarily banned.  They said it could take 5-10 days

Guess there's lots of goko in my future

[Galzria]

Amongst the many flaws in their shop system, of the two packs selectable, one has shiny blue writing in front of it, and the other has nothing - it's just the card backs.

The shiny blue lettering that draws your eye and has "Oh, pick me!" written all over it, says "Good for beginning players" (or something similar). It's the Basic Packs!

The plain, nondescript packs that have absolutely nothing to indicate they're special? Yeah, THOSE are the new GvG cards.

Generally, when one releases a new product, they give IT the shiny bells and whistles, not the old stuff...

[Jorbles]

1: Illuminator, Imp-losion
2: Call Pet
3: Metal Tooth Leaper (Gold), Lil Exorcist

4: Iron Sensei
5: One-Eyed Cheat
6: Muster
7: Vitality Totem
8: Goblin Blastmage
9: Cobalt Guardian
10: Target Dummy, Enhance-O Mechano, Goblin Sapper
11: Soot Spewer
12: Screwjank Clunker
13: Feign Death, King of Beasts (Gold), Gnomish Experimenter
14: Light Bomb
15: Goblin Blastmage, Recombobulator
16: Screwjunk Clunker, Ogre Ninja

I crafted Troggzor after not opening him (or any Legendary )

Overall, I got the cards for a MechaMage deck. So far it's good. I can say that those Goblin Blastmages are spectacular. There's lots of sticky mechs (Annoyer, Harvest, Spider Tank) and they all lead really well into face blasts.

[Titandrake]

Free pack 1: Gaslowe, Screwjank Clunker, Warbot, Gnomeregan Infantry, Burly Rockjaw Trogg
Free pack 2: Powermace, Ship's Cannon, Puddlestomper, Explosive Sheep, Salty Dog
Free pack 3: Ogre Ninja (gold), Jeeves, Screwjank Clunker, Scarlet Purifier, Mechwarper

Bought 10 packs.
Pack 1: One-eyed Cheat, Tinker's Sharpsword Oil, Floating Watcher, Glaivezooka, Flamecannon
Pack 2: Call Pet (gold), Muster for Battle, Shrinkmeister, Floating Watcher, Ogre Brute
Pack 3: Call Pet, Force-Tank MAX, Glaivezooka, Anodized Robo Cub, Seal of Light
Pack 4: Powermace, Salty Dog, Seal of Light, Anodized Robo Cub, Snowchugger
Pack 5: Coghammer, Goblin Blastmage, Flamecannon, Seal of Light, Gilblin Stalker
Pack 6: Iron Sensei, Mechwarper, Annoy-o-Tron, Druid of the Fang, Salty Dog
Pack 7: Mistress of Pain, Annoy-o-Tron, Force-Tank MAX, Darkbomb, Spider Tank
Pack 8: Call Pet, Cogmaster, Whirling Zap-o-matic, Annoy-o-Tron, Micro Machine
Pack 9: Scarlet Purifier, Gilblin Stalker, Mechwarper, Druid of the Fang, Shielded Minibot
Pack 10: Anima Golem, Mech-Bear Cat, Floating Watcher, Flying Machine, Micro Machine

Really nice haul from the free packs, then it went downhill kind of fast.