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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #550 on: December 07, 2014, 12:05:47 am »
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Oh man, I had the most insane game earlier involving Fel Reaver.  I'm playing as a priest against a mage at like 10 wins in Arena.

His turn 5, he has a 2/2 on board, and I have nothing.  He plays Fel Reaver.  I don't have a clean answer, but play Emperor Cobra, Shadow Word Pain his 2/2, and hope he doesn't have frostbolt.  He doesn't, and he actually trades into my cobra (He had already burned 6 cards, and I guess he didn't want to risk me playing 4 cards, or freezing the felreaver, or something along those lines.)

Fastforward 8 turns or so.  We're pretty far in the game, and I'm getting low on life, down to about 5 life after his attacks.  He had a board of a 6/3, a 4/5, a 5/3 (Or something along those lines, the specific minions don't matter).  He plays the last card in his hand, which is a second Fel Reaver! He has 6 cards left in his deck.  On my turn, I play Stormwind Knight, attack his 4/5, and play lightbomb, leaving him with no cards on board, no cards in hand, and no cards in deck.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #551 on: December 07, 2014, 12:18:03 am »
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The real achievement in arena is winning a game when your opponent plays Fel Reaver. Now _that_ is hard.

I was watching a game of Nkirbit where he won a game where his opponent played two Fel Reavers.

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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #552 on: December 07, 2014, 12:24:12 am »
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he actually trades into my cobra
:o "Trade Fel Reaver into Emperor Cobra" could be an insanity wolf meme.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #553 on: December 07, 2014, 12:26:55 am »
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he actually trades into my cobra
:o "Trade Fel Reaver into Emperor Cobra" could be an insanity wolf meme.

Well, had he not, I would've actually played Vol'jin and doubled its health before I killed it.. so maybe it was for the best!
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #554 on: December 07, 2014, 02:14:01 pm »
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So how much Gold/Dust do you guys have saved for the new expansion? I have 1200 Gold and enough Dust for 1 Legendary (which I think will be Troggzor).
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #555 on: December 07, 2014, 02:57:19 pm »
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I have ~700 gold and 3000+ dust.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #556 on: December 07, 2014, 03:20:00 pm »
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2500 gold, 3200 dust if i dust my excess cards, and 60$.

Not sure on dusting priorities for this set.  The neutrals are iffy in various ways.  Troggzor looks like it could be really strong, but we could see him trade with stuff and die a lot in practice.  Loatheb is closer to vanilla curve on his stats and also has a just-forget-about it prohibition on casting spells.  Sure, Loatheb only lasts one turn, but how long do minions last multiple turns in Hearthstone? It's not MtG, stuff dies fast.

I'll probably craft Troggzor just because I like druid a lot, and he has the most synergy with Innervate ever.  Innervate- Innervate- Rag can get BGH'ed or hexed, which keeps that strategy in check.  Troggzor dodges both bullets.

Sneed's Old Shredder is a tauntless unshielded Tirion with a whiff chance.  Foe Reaper is garbage because it dies to conventional removal in addition to Hex.  I'd only run Gazlowe if I somehow needed a 3rd, weaker Auctioneer (not impossible I guess).  Mekgineer Thermaplug is a joke card.  Mimiron's Head is a tutorial on more-win and why more-win is bad.  Mogor the Ogor needs health.

Dr. Boom seems really good, actually.  He kinda feels like a 7 mana version of Rag, BGHable but BGH doesn't erase all pain completely.  He might be better than Rag, really.  Lack of taunt/charge is his only issue, Rag has a pseudo form of it, but at 7 mana that's more forgivable.  I wouldn't be totally shocked if Dr. Boom became an every deck thing.  Might be too slow, but after the nerfs the game seems slowed enough for him to be strong (if mech meta doesn't re-speed it back up past that).

Toshley also seems really good.  He's kinda like the Azure Drake of boulderfistery since a spare part is like half a card.  He might not be better than Cairne, but he doesn't really have to be, I could see you wanting to run both.

So I think neutrals crafting is something like Dr. Boom > Toshley > Troggzor > garbage
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #557 on: December 07, 2014, 03:22:17 pm »
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I have 1500 gold and 9500 dust.  I'm not yet sure what I want to craft.. I may just sit around for a week and play arena, and then figure out what the best players are playing and craft/open the cards I need.  I don't play enough constructed to realistically be competing for legend ranks anyway, so I am okay waiting to see what players who are better and play more than I do make, and create the deck out of those that looks like the most fun.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #558 on: December 07, 2014, 03:31:39 pm »
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I'm sitting on ~1100 gold but only ~1900 dust.

Most of that dust is going into a neutral legendary, but I'm still uncertain if it should be something from G&G or an old standby like Cairne/Ragnaros.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #559 on: December 07, 2014, 03:36:52 pm »
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I'm sitting on ~1100 gold but only ~1900 dust.

Most of that dust is going into a neutral legendary, but I'm still uncertain if it should be something from G&G or an old standby like Cairne/Ragnaros.
I think Rag's stock has a risk of going down, but Cairne will stay relevant
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #560 on: December 07, 2014, 03:37:28 pm »
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I got Dr. Boom in arena and he sucked. His boom bots can hit face, and when it's 1 damage it's really bad. I don't see him ever being good.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #561 on: December 07, 2014, 03:41:47 pm »
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~1100 gold and only 800 dust.

I'm just going to build my collection through playing arena, then see which desired deck I'm closest to building and craft to add missing pieces.

About Dr. Boom, I also had him in arena and played against him in arena. I'd say he's alright. His Boom bots don't always hit face and they can attack too. Helps if you're a bit behind on the board, and makes it hard for your opponent to regain tempo if you have a tempo advantage.

Someone here on the forum was saying that it offers more than Gahz'rilla in the face of hard removal.

And Rag also hits face sometimes, and that's not always what you need.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #562 on: December 07, 2014, 03:57:40 pm »
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I got Dr. Boom in arena and he sucked. His boom bots can hit face, and when it's 1 damage it's really bad. I don't see him ever being good.
What seven drop or six drop outclasses him?
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #563 on: December 07, 2014, 04:01:39 pm »
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Somewhat bold prediction here, but if aggro mech decks become a thing then Cog Master is going to be a really big deal. If you a have Mech 2-drop, it's Flame Imp for all classes. That's enough to kill a 1-buff Undertaker and most other 2 drops.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #564 on: December 07, 2014, 05:02:40 pm »
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I got Dr. Boom in arena and he sucked. His boom bots can hit face, and when it's 1 damage it's really bad. I don't see him ever being good.
What seven drop or six drop outclasses him?

Cairne, Sylvannas. I'd rather both of those. Dr. Boom doesn't catch up up as much as you might think, unless his board is all weenie guys. I was very unimpressed.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #565 on: December 07, 2014, 05:08:43 pm »
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Sylvanas might catchup better, but Cairne has only 4 attack of board presence so he's not much of a catchupper either.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #566 on: December 07, 2014, 05:56:20 pm »
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I'll probably stick to using arena to get GvG packs, see what cards seem nice to have and craft stuff later.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #567 on: December 07, 2014, 07:17:04 pm »
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I'll probably stick to using arena to get GvG packs, see what cards seem nice to have and craft stuff later.
Yeah, this is my plan too, though I may have to craft one each of Recombobulator and Piloted Sky Golem just because of how cool they are.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #568 on: December 07, 2014, 07:19:12 pm »
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I fail hard at Arena. I'll be buying packs with Gold when it hits.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #569 on: December 07, 2014, 07:21:19 pm »
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I'll probably stick to using arena to get GvG packs, see what cards seem nice to have and craft stuff later.
Yeah, this is my plan too, though I may have to craft one each of Recombobulator and Piloted Sky Golem just because of how cool they are.
I wish Recombobulator wasn't epic, because it's a pretty dang cool card.  The power overwhelming combos are so real.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #570 on: December 07, 2014, 07:25:24 pm »
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Yay, I reached 12 wins on GvG Arena Mode.
http://arenamastery.com/anos

Yeah Sky Golem is pretty fun. I may have to reconsider Piloted Sky Golem Piloted Shredder as the premier 4-Mana Mech drop though. Zog spectated a match where it summoned Ancient Watcher, but then I played against another one that summoned Vitality Totem. The 4 drops vary in stats but they are usually formidable and help you follow up the aggressive 6-attack of the Sky Golem.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #571 on: December 07, 2014, 09:16:17 pm »
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I drafted a Sneed's Old Shredder, and got it out against a Warrior. I could have won the game a turn or 2 earlier, but I decidedly to slow-play a bit to get a chance to see what Legendary I got.

I trade for his last minion, ping it with Hero Power to get the last 1 damage to trigger deathrattle...and summon another Shredder.

I feel so ripped off.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #572 on: December 08, 2014, 12:30:36 pm »
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I wantses my new cards! My Precious'ssss... My Shinies.... My Sweets....
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #573 on: December 08, 2014, 12:38:36 pm »
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i drew with Jeeves while in fatigue mode in a priest game.  I ended turn with two cards in hand, and Jeeves drew me 1 fatigue card, but he bugged out and said "Ah, yes sir" twice instead of once.  He wants to to be a good infinite butler blizzard just let him..
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #574 on: December 08, 2014, 01:24:06 pm »
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I wantses my new cards! My Precious'ssss... My Shinies.... My Sweets....

I got up early this morning just in case I could open packs. Of course I couldn't. :( Not til midnight probably.
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