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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #475 on: December 04, 2014, 10:23:41 am »
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I think it's fine to temporarily have cards that restrict future design space. I'd prefer if Blizzard would simply rotate them out rather than nerf them, but anyway, I think the game was better for Miracle Rogue existing as an archetype, because that's a pretty cool deck. Another example is Auchenai Soulpriest: cool card, but will eventually need to be removed or nerfed because it limits the design space of every targeted heal effect that's neutral or Priest-specific. It's still good to have in the game at this point.
I'd agree with that philosophy but Blizzard has used some different rhetoric than that.  "We want to nerf cards as little as possible so people have faith in their cards", they said something like that at one point.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #476 on: December 04, 2014, 10:35:19 am »
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http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/129103-aaaa

Went for a Sticky Minion - > Cult Master subtheme.  Since Annoyotron and Harvest Golem are sticky and mechs and Test Dummy can make anything stickier it seems ok.

Fixed a bug where my mage deck didn't have Bloodmage Thalnos.

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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #477 on: December 04, 2014, 11:22:43 am »
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I just don't know what deck to build anymore. I'm hoping to be able to build a mech-ish Warlock deck at some point. That Anima Golem is really interesting. It's incentive to run Blood Imp, although I suspect you can modify the typical Zoo deck to be slightly stickier than it already is.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #478 on: December 04, 2014, 11:59:51 am »
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Let me get this straight. You are building decks with cards that you can't currently own and when there is still a cadre of unreleased cards that might entirely negate these builds?
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #479 on: December 04, 2014, 12:09:14 pm »
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^All cards for this expansion have been announced.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #480 on: December 04, 2014, 03:33:09 pm »
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #481 on: December 04, 2014, 03:41:10 pm »
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Lol at patch-notes:

Faceless Manipulator will now copy Echoing Ooze as well as it's effect.

Faceless Manipulator will now copy Echoing Ooze as well as it's effect.

Also, Kel'Thuzard doesn't revive himself if struck by Ragnaros. About time.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #482 on: December 04, 2014, 04:45:05 pm »
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Right after I started a new arena run
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #483 on: December 04, 2014, 04:51:10 pm »
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The next one is free though?
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #484 on: December 04, 2014, 04:55:22 pm »
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Yep.  I'm playing with the new cards right now.. have 8 or so in my deck, I think.  Excited to see how it goes!
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #485 on: December 04, 2014, 05:04:06 pm »
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I've got
New Yeti (is a Yeti, so of course it is insane in arena)
2/2 Divine Shield for 2 (Decent, Pretty good vs classes with no ability to take away shield turn 2, than it can basically trade for 2 3/2 in best case scenario)
Muster for Battle (which proved to be VERY good, and I still didn't combo it with my Stormwind Champ)
and....

RECOCOMBULATOR!
Which I picked over Ley on Hands.
And he .. under-performed so far.
It turned 3/2 Senjin into Summoning Portal, 5/6 Guardian of Kings into 5/5, and 4/2 Yeti into 2/5 Taunt Hexproof (which was good).

Very fun, also kinda easy as far, I am 8-0. Maybe many new people came to play.
(I do have 23 Yetis and 3 Senjins, though).
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #486 on: December 04, 2014, 05:06:03 pm »
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http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder/shaman#24:2;77:2;256:1;305:2;386:2;390:2;473:2;491:2;525:1;542:2;613:1;7756:2;12179:2;12181:2;12231:2;12269:1;12288:2;

Sticky Flametongue/Dire Wolf shaman.  This seems more highly likely to be a thing than the more experimental medhev stuff
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #487 on: December 04, 2014, 05:06:09 pm »
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My first time I played madder bomber, I had a 2/3 out, my opponent had two 2/4s and a 2/1 stealth out, and my madder bomber shot me twice, my 2/3 3 times, and my opponent once.

Did a very good mad bomber+ impression, hahahahaha.  I forsee much frustration due to that card.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #488 on: December 04, 2014, 05:07:08 pm »
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Also that 3/3 that deals 4 damage on random - pretty nifty animation :D
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #489 on: December 04, 2014, 05:09:46 pm »
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Isn't Madder Bomber just bad anyway? 3/2 for 2 is on-curve, 5/4 for 5 is below curve, symettric effects have to do a lot of work to make up that difference..
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #490 on: December 04, 2014, 05:10:55 pm »
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It's not symetric if he has more minions. :P
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #491 on: December 04, 2014, 05:14:19 pm »
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Isn't Madder Bomber just bad anyway? 3/2 for 2 is on-curve, 5/4 for 5 is below curve, symettric effects have to do a lot of work to make up that difference..

Yeah, maybe.  I wanted to try it out, though.  I'm pretty much taking a lot of new cards just to see how they are.

I can report that the madder bomber animation is not nearly as cool as the mad bomber animation :(
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #492 on: December 04, 2014, 05:17:27 pm »
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It's not symetric if he has more minions. :P

Yeah, that's what the concept of breaking a symmetric effect is about, I've won with Council Room before.  But symmetric effects require work so they're naturally worth less
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #493 on: December 04, 2014, 05:33:46 pm »
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Kinda wish they'd bias the arena draft towards GvG, maybe just temporarily.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #494 on: December 04, 2014, 05:37:36 pm »
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Do you get GvG packs for prizes yet?
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #495 on: December 04, 2014, 05:38:43 pm »
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Kinda wish they'd bias the arena draft towards GvG, maybe just temporarily.

That would be designing the arena experience, which seems like something they haven't made the slightest effort towards since Questing Adventurer swapped rarities with Flesheating Ghoul October of last year.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #496 on: December 04, 2014, 05:41:35 pm »
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I was thinking of streaming my first ever GvG arena run, but it looks like everyone is busy doing arena runs of their own and I want a piece of the action. There's a chance the server gets flooded on the official expansion release day. I don't want to be stuck experiencing lag right when thr expansion comes out. Besides Arena is where I'll be putting my focus for awhile.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #497 on: December 04, 2014, 05:41:38 pm »
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Do you get GvG packs for prizes yet?

No, still the old ones.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #498 on: December 04, 2014, 05:42:51 pm »
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I was thinking of streaming my first ever GvG arena run, but it looks like everyone is busy doing arena runs of their own and I want a piece of the action. There's a chance the server gets flooded on the official expansion release day. I don't want to be stuck experiencing lag right when thr expansion comes out. Besides Arena is where I'll be putting my focus for awhile.

I would watch (while playing my own) !
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #499 on: December 04, 2014, 05:45:44 pm »
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My first time I played madder bomber, I had a 2/3 out, my opponent had two 2/4s and a 2/1 stealth out, and my madder bomber shot me twice, my 2/3 3 times, and my opponent once.

Did a very good mad bomber+ impression, hahahahaha.  I forsee much frustration due to that card.

Played Madder Bomber while opponent had three 1/1 imps, and I had blank board.

6 shots to my face.  Thanks.
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