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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #225 on: November 24, 2014, 04:32:59 pm »
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« Reply #226 on: November 24, 2014, 05:15:50 pm »
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If Leeroy was still around I'd be more worried about Whirler, but without Leeroy there's not an excessive amount of finishing power in Shaman to the point that this is broken.  Bloodlust only works if you have board control, denying board control to the guy playing 2 mana 3/2s isn't hard.  Lightning bolt and Rockbiter are good.  You can't really put Lava Burst in a deck and feel good about it because it's so bad early.

I don't think taking 10 to the face will be game over for most classes.  Shaman is not a bursty finisher kind of class, especially now that Leeroy isn't even a possibility.  When I played handlock, a hand with Jaraxxus and the 7 worst cards in my deck was usually an autowin against Shaman because they were so. damn. slow.

The beast legend seems unplayable.  Loses hard to spot removal, and doesn't protect its owner from death by 1000 tiny minions.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #227 on: November 24, 2014, 05:23:52 pm »
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Does cruel taskmaster make him 14 or 16 attack?

Dodging bgh the turn you play him is always nice. And costing 7, which is a weak spot on the legendary curve currently. I think he'll see some play because people will want to try him out, and he'll be fine but not insane.  I can't imagine him being stronger than highmane
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #228 on: November 24, 2014, 05:25:00 pm »
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Does anyone have a quick and easy Pally Face deck I can copy?  I'm having the worst time with the "Win 5 games with Priest or Paladin" quest because I don't play either class.

I've got some odd Zoo+Divine Shield thing built, but it's not great.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #229 on: November 24, 2014, 05:28:07 pm »
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Does anyone have a quick and easy Pally Face deck I can copy?  I'm having the worst time with the "Win 5 games with Priest or Paladin" quest because I don't play either class.

I've got some odd Zoo+Divine Shield thing built, but it's not great.

Alas, I can't give you anything quick and easy, but I do have "slow, ponderous, and erratic" available if you like.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #230 on: November 24, 2014, 05:35:07 pm »
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Does anyone have a quick and easy Pally Face deck I can copy?  I'm having the worst time with the "Win 5 games with Priest or Paladin" quest because I don't play either class.

I've got some odd Zoo+Divine Shield thing built, but it's not great.

Alas, I can't give you anything quick and easy, but I do have "slow, ponderous, and erratic" available if you like.

Those seem to be in abundance.

My current iteration relies on that sword that buffs minions to flood the board with 2-4 middling minions of 2/2 to 3/4 strength, along with some board control spells, and Divine Favor to draw up.  I don't really have a finisher except for Leeroy and one Avenging Wrath, though.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #231 on: November 24, 2014, 05:41:06 pm »
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Do you have the naxx cards?  Undertaker priest aggro is a fine deck if you do.  It runs a few legendaries, but they aren't key to what the deck is doing really.. the important cards are all the deathrattles from Naxx.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #232 on: November 24, 2014, 05:42:15 pm »
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Do you have the naxx cards?  Undertaker priest aggro is a fine deck if you do.  It runs a few legendaries, but they aren't key to what the deck is doing really.. the important cards are all the deathrattles from Naxx.

Yeah, I do.  I guess I could throw that together.  Does it need Shadow Madness/Shadowform/etc.?  I'm lacking all shadow cards except for one Soulpriest.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #233 on: November 24, 2014, 05:47:44 pm »
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http://imgur.com/2yhd7Ly.  Try this.  If you're a card or two short, replace it with whatever you fancy.. you should have all the cards for the central focus of the deck from Naxx and basic cards.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #234 on: November 24, 2014, 05:53:05 pm »
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http://imgur.com/2yhd7Ly.  Try this.  If you're a card or two short, replace it with whatever you fancy.. you should have all the cards for the central focus of the deck from Naxx and basic cards.

Nice!  Thanks a bunch.  I'm just missing 1x Holy Fire from that.  I'll slot in Leeroy.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #235 on: November 24, 2014, 05:54:59 pm »
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http://imgur.com/2yhd7Ly.  Try this.  If you're a card or two short, replace it with whatever you fancy.. you should have all the cards for the central focus of the deck from Naxx and basic cards.
I've heard of these decks, but  don't think I've seen them, or at least not a good version of it. How strong is it? I prefer the control Priest archetype (like, one that includes Mind Control), but it runs 2 Auchenais and a Shadow Priest, so kinda expensive on dust.

Either way, Zombie Chow provides a lot of value.

Man, I can't wait for GvG to come out so I can try a crazy deathrattle-mech-healthboost deck with maybe Rivendare and Inner Fire.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #236 on: November 24, 2014, 06:03:50 pm »
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They're fine, I think.  The idea is that they're a deck that's capable of powering out fast undertaker starts, but is a little slower and has more powerful cards than the hunter deck.  I think you can build it to beat hunter, which is a good feature of every deck.  And it's tons of fun to play.

I think the main reason they're not seen much is that hunter and zoo are just better.  If you're going to play an undertaker deck, shouldn't you just play the best one?  Hunter is significantly more powerful at ending the game quickly against control decks, while priest can't end nearly as quickly and will struggle against decks like Priest, Druid, and Warrior in the late game, and doesn't have hunter's hero power to make handlock a good matchup or provide finishing power in general.  If you're going to be an aggro deck that's playing one drops, you'd much rather have a power that does two damage.  You also don't have the warlock hero power to run a zoo plan as effectively as warlock does.  So you end up in a weird mash of Hunter and Zoo, and that makes you much worse against slow decks.

There should probably be shadow word deaths in that deck.. I forgot to put them in.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #237 on: November 24, 2014, 07:22:36 pm »
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Mechwarper is ridiculous.  That might be the best card in the set.

Replicate Mechwarper as a mage and now you're playing Affinity.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #238 on: November 24, 2014, 07:27:05 pm »
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Mechwarper is ridiculous.  That might be the best card in the set.

Replicate Mechwarper as a mage and now you're playing Affinity.
This is my suspicion as well. So far, it's the card that does the most to enable Mech decks, and it's a Mech itself.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #239 on: November 25, 2014, 07:34:03 am »
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Are we expecting the new expansion with the new month?
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #240 on: November 25, 2014, 10:32:54 am »
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Are we expecting the new expansion with the new month?

Yes, they confirmed release on December the 1st.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #241 on: November 25, 2014, 10:51:50 am »
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Are we expecting the new expansion with the new month?

Yes, they confirmed release on December the 1st.

Source?
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #242 on: November 25, 2014, 11:32:03 am »
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Are we expecting the new expansion with the new month?

Yes, they confirmed release on December the 1st.

Source?

Hmmm, I'm pretty sure it's the first of December, but I can only find that it'll be released in December sometime.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #243 on: November 25, 2014, 11:41:02 am »
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Are we expecting the new expansion with the new month?

Yes, they confirmed release on December the 1st.

Source?

Hmmm, I'm pretty sure it's the first of December, but I can only find that it'll be released in December sometime.
I thought it was an open question. They haven't made any placeholders for December card reveals on the reveal voting site (I believe the last placeholder is for November 28). I think they're just allowing themselves the option to release it at any point in December when it's ready.

Of course I hope they release it on December first. They might, but this is also the team who said they'd release Naxx wings on Tuesday, then release them at 11:59pm Tuesday. At worst, we get a New Year's release.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #244 on: November 25, 2014, 12:35:05 pm »
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Mech zoo seems frightfully strong.  Clockwork Gnome, Cogmaster, Micromachine, Piloted Shredder, Fel Cannon, Spider tank, Mechwarper, Harvest Golem.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #246 on: November 25, 2014, 01:19:17 pm »
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Two new ogre cards. http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/16893475?abt=nav1&utm_expid=68589644-24.yOgsCsWhSz-gOSDIbl82Wg.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F

Was just going to post about these both have a 50% chance of "attacking the wrong enemy" but have great stats.

Ogre Ninja - Rogue card
5 mana - 6/6 Stealth - 50% chance of attacking the wrong enemy

Dunemaul Shaman - Shaman card
4 mana - 5/4 Windfury, Overload (1) - 50% chance of attacking the wrong enemy

Edit: this 50% chance ignores things that prevent targeting normally (Stealth, Taunt). It's not clear what they do on an empty board, but presumably it just hits the enemy hero regardless, if there's only one possible target.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #247 on: November 25, 2014, 01:22:05 pm »
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Ogre.... Ninja...

Something's wrong here.

And knowing Blizz, I fully expect "In December" to become 31 December at 23:59 Pacific time.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #248 on: November 25, 2014, 01:26:48 pm »
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Ogre ninja is probably the better card.  Overloading can hurt a lot and an above curve body is more content to fight pretty much whatever, a 5/4 wants to attack something specific.
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Re: New Expansion Speculation
« Reply #249 on: November 25, 2014, 01:57:01 pm »
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Is it still held by taunt?
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