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[blueblimp]

I think it's more that Yeti>River croc, and Water Elemental is a Yeti and the new thing is a River Croc.

With Water Elemental, its 3/6 stats are arguably even better than Yeti's 4/5, even ignoring the freeze. So yeah, River Croc plus freeze is not exciting. I expect it to only see constructed play in mech decks. (It will see play in Mage mech decks, like how River Croc saw play in Hunter before Naxx introduced Haunted Creeper.)

[blueblimp]

Shaman gets a 3/2 for 2... with Windfury.
http://toucharcade.com/2014/11/24/exclusive-hearthstone-goblins-vs-gnomes-card-reveal-whirling-zap-o-matic/

Crazy. This outclasses every other windfury minion in the game by a huge margin. It's very nearly a pre-enraged Raging Worgen, and for 2 mana instead of 3.

[KingZog3]

Shaman gets a 3/2 for 2... with Windfury.
http://toucharcade.com/2014/11/24/exclusive-hearthstone-goblins-vs-gnomes-card-reveal-whirling-zap-o-matic/

Crazy. This outclasses every other windfury minion in the game by a huge margin. It's very nearly a pre-enraged Raging Worgen, and for 2 mana instead of 3.

Oh man. I play so much Shaman, and this makes me happy. I'm feeling lots of people trying aggro Shaman without Mana Baddict this time.

[markusin]

Shaman gets a 3/2 for 2... with Windfury.
http://toucharcade.com/2014/11/24/exclusive-hearthstone-goblins-vs-gnomes-card-reveal-whirling-zap-o-matic/

Crazy. This outclasses every other windfury minion in the game by a huge margin. It's very nearly a pre-enraged Raging Worgen, and for 2 mana instead of 3.

So, uh, this confirms what I saw at the 5:00 min mark in this video:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JL8XxTzBLjo

I was confused as to why the internet wasn't talking about that.

[Jorbles]

I think it's more that Yeti>River croc, and Water Elemental is a Yeti and the new thing is a River Croc.

At least it's another card that can keep weapon users + druid in perpetual freeze. Plus, it's a mech to activate Goblin Blast mage. But meh, when attacking minions in turn 2-3 it's pretty much just River Croc. Kinda conflicts with the Sorceror's Apprentice + Mana Wyrm early game style.

I think there will be some interesting interactions with this where it can hit a 3 health minion and then you don't have to plan on finishing it off for a turn, but, probably a better Arena card than a Constructed one.

[markusin]

Oh, and here's that beast legendary that was being voted for:
Gahz'rila.

7 mana 6/9 beast
Whenever this minion takes damage, double its attack.

Call Pet looking better yet?

So even without the ability, this card's stats are totally on curve. The next step up after Highmane if so desired.

[markusin]

I think it's more that Yeti>River croc, and Water Elemental is a Yeti and the new thing is a River Croc.

At least it's another card that can keep weapon users + druid in perpetual freeze. Plus, it's a mech to activate Goblin Blast mage. But meh, when attacking minions in turn 2-3 it's pretty much just River Croc. Kinda conflicts with the Sorceror's Apprentice + Mana Wyrm early game style.

I think there will be some interesting interactions with this where it can hit a 3 health minion and then you don't have to plan on finishing it off for a turn, but, probably a better Arena card than a Constructed one.

The same happens with frostbolt against 4 health minions sometimes, but usually you finish off the target outright with Frostbolt.

[Jorbles]

Shaman gets a 3/2 for 2... with Windfury.
http://toucharcade.com/2014/11/24/exclusive-hearthstone-goblins-vs-gnomes-card-reveal-whirling-zap-o-matic/

Crazy. This outclasses every other windfury minion in the game by a huge margin. It's very nearly a pre-enraged Raging Worgen, and for 2 mana instead of 3.

Oh man. I play so much Shaman, and this makes me happy. I'm feeling lots of people trying aggro Shaman without Mana Baddict this time.

Wowowowow that is such a good 2 drop. Comparing it to the minions that start with Windfury (of which only Worgen and Al'Akir are playable) that is a huge card. Can you imagine coining this out and then playing Flametongue Totem or Rockbiter weapon the next turn? So scary. Shaman aggro is definitely coming.

[markusin]

Shaman gets a 3/2 for 2... with Windfury.
http://toucharcade.com/2014/11/24/exclusive-hearthstone-goblins-vs-gnomes-card-reveal-whirling-zap-o-matic/

Crazy. This outclasses every other windfury minion in the game by a huge margin. It's very nearly a pre-enraged Raging Worgen, and for 2 mana instead of 3.

Oh man. I play so much Shaman, and this makes me happy. I'm feeling lots of people trying aggro Shaman without Mana Baddict this time.

Wowowowow that is such a good 2 drop. Comparing it to the minions that start with Windfury (of which only Worgen and Al'Akir are playable) that is a huge card. Can you imagine coining this out and then playing Flametongue Totem or Rockbiter weapon the next turn? So scary. Shaman aggro is definitely coming.

Man, why did they even make Dust Devil. This is like the pseudo Thief->Noble Brigand buff.

[Jorbles]

I think it's more that Yeti>River croc, and Water Elemental is a Yeti and the new thing is a River Croc.

At least it's another card that can keep weapon users + druid in perpetual freeze. Plus, it's a mech to activate Goblin Blast mage. But meh, when attacking minions in turn 2-3 it's pretty much just River Croc. Kinda conflicts with the Sorceror's Apprentice + Mana Wyrm early game style.

I think there will be some interesting interactions with this where it can hit a 3 health minion and then you don't have to plan on finishing it off for a turn, but, probably a better Arena card than a Constructed one.

The same happens with frostbolt against 4 health minions sometimes, but usually you finish off the target outright with Frostbolt.

True, but this will sometimes leave you with a 2/1 or 2/2 minion after doing the freeze which frostbolt doesn't. It could maybe be used in Freeze Mage in Constructed?

[Jorbles]

Shaman gets a 3/2 for 2... with Windfury.
http://toucharcade.com/2014/11/24/exclusive-hearthstone-goblins-vs-gnomes-card-reveal-whirling-zap-o-matic/

Crazy. This outclasses every other windfury minion in the game by a huge margin. It's very nearly a pre-enraged Raging Worgen, and for 2 mana instead of 3.

Oh man. I play so much Shaman, and this makes me happy. I'm feeling lots of people trying aggro Shaman without Mana Baddict this time.

Wowowowow that is such a good 2 drop. Comparing it to the minions that start with Windfury (of which only Worgen and Al'Akir are playable) that is a huge card. Can you imagine coining this out and then playing Flametongue Totem or Rockbiter weapon the next turn? So scary. Shaman aggro is definitely coming.

Man, why did they even make Dust Devil. This is like the pseudo Thief->Noble Brigand buff.

So true. I thought the same thing when I saw it.

[popsofctown]

Wow. A vanilla curved Windfury minion.

Although I think 2/3s are better than 3/2s in constructed and prefer 3/2 abilities that affect board instead of face (like Knife Juggler) on its good days, I think you have to jump on the hype train for the 3/2 windfury guy for sure.  Shieldbearer already fits and works rather well in a Shaman deck, and with this six damage swing potential here I think shamans will have little issue justifying Shieldbearer's inclusion to protect Whirler (shall we call it Whirler or Zappo?).

Zoo will get the biggest middle finger from Whirler and I love it.  A Shieldbearer - Whirler opening will be hard to get through with minions and Soulfire is the only removal that ignores taunt, and it's a bit "over costed" for removing Whirler.  Meanwhile the six damage is most relevant against Warlocks because they tap so much, and Shaman has some direct burn to finish the job.  (It'd rarely be only six, you run flametongue, probably Dwolf alpha, and rockbiter in this kind of deck.  Let alone the mech buffs).

Most of the other classes have spot removal to deal with a taunt-whirler opening, and most of the other classes have AoE later on to punish you for putting a 3/2 without immediate effects in your deck, so I think it will be balanced and not break the game.

[Jorbles]

Wow. A vanilla curved Windfury minion.

Although I think 2/3s are better than 3/2s in constructed and prefer 3/2 abilities that affect board instead of face (like Knife Juggler) on its good days, I think you have to jump on the hype train for the 3/2 windfury guy for sure.  Shieldbearer already fits and works rather well in a Shaman deck, and with this six damage swing potential here I think shamans will have little issue justifying Shieldbearer's inclusion to protect Whirler (shall we call it Whirler or Zappo?).

Zoo will get the biggest middle finger from Whirler and I love it.  A Shieldbearer - Whirler opening will be hard to get through with minions and Soulfire is the only removal that ignores taunt, and it's a bit "over costed" for removing Whirler.  Meanwhile the six damage is most relevant against Warlocks because they tap so much, and Shaman has some direct burn to finish the job.  (It'd rarely be only six, you run flametongue, probably Dwolf alpha, and rockbiter in this kind of deck.  Let alone the mech buffs).

Most of the other classes have spot removal to deal with a taunt-whirler opening, and most of the other classes have AoE later on to punish you for putting a 3/2 without immediate effects in your deck, so I think it will be balanced and not break the game.

It's also a common. I'm going to craft 2 of these immediately when the expansion drops.

[popsofctown]

Wow. A vanilla curved Windfury minion.

Although I think 2/3s are better than 3/2s in constructed and prefer 3/2 abilities that affect board instead of face (like Knife Juggler) on its good days, I think you have to jump on the hype train for the 3/2 windfury guy for sure.  Shieldbearer already fits and works rather well in a Shaman deck, and with this six damage swing potential here I think shamans will have little issue justifying Shieldbearer's inclusion to protect Whirler (shall we call it Whirler or Zappo?).

Zoo will get the biggest middle finger from Whirler and I love it.  A Shieldbearer - Whirler opening will be hard to get through with minions and Soulfire is the only removal that ignores taunt, and it's a bit "over costed" for removing Whirler.  Meanwhile the six damage is most relevant against Warlocks because they tap so much, and Shaman has some direct burn to finish the job.  (It'd rarely be only six, you run flametongue, probably Dwolf alpha, and rockbiter in this kind of deck.  Let alone the mech buffs).

Most of the other classes have spot removal to deal with a taunt-whirler opening, and most of the other classes have AoE later on to punish you for putting a 3/2 without immediate effects in your deck, so I think it will be balanced and not break the game.

It's also a common. I'm going to craft 2 of these immediately when the expansion drops.

But commons are the most dust inefficient crafting target

[pingpongsam]

I'm not doing anything when the new expansion drops but waiting to see how they work it into Arena awards. I need to know if the gold I am currently accumulating is better spent buying packs or tickets. If Arena awards are going to randomly award the old card packs then I'll probably just buy packs.

[Jorbles]

Wow. A vanilla curved Windfury minion.

Although I think 2/3s are better than 3/2s in constructed and prefer 3/2 abilities that affect board instead of face (like Knife Juggler) on its good days, I think you have to jump on the hype train for the 3/2 windfury guy for sure.  Shieldbearer already fits and works rather well in a Shaman deck, and with this six damage swing potential here I think shamans will have little issue justifying Shieldbearer's inclusion to protect Whirler (shall we call it Whirler or Zappo?).

Zoo will get the biggest middle finger from Whirler and I love it.  A Shieldbearer - Whirler opening will be hard to get through with minions and Soulfire is the only removal that ignores taunt, and it's a bit "over costed" for removing Whirler.  Meanwhile the six damage is most relevant against Warlocks because they tap so much, and Shaman has some direct burn to finish the job.  (It'd rarely be only six, you run flametongue, probably Dwolf alpha, and rockbiter in this kind of deck.  Let alone the mech buffs).

Most of the other classes have spot removal to deal with a taunt-whirler opening, and most of the other classes have AoE later on to punish you for putting a 3/2 without immediate effects in your deck, so I think it will be balanced and not break the game.

It's also a common. I'm going to craft 2 of these immediately when the expansion drops.

But commons are the most dust inefficient crafting target

But that card is so good I want it immediately! I guess I'll still spend all my gold on packs first and see if I get it, but if I don't I will not wait to craft that card.

[markusin]

I'm not doing anything when the new expansion drops but waiting to see how they work it into Arena awards. I need to know if the gold I am currently accumulating is better spent buying packs or tickets. If Arena awards are going to randomly award the old card packs then I'll probably just buy packs.

Arena is supposed to only award the expansion packs once the expansion comes out. So, you're stuck buying regular packs if you want base set cards.

[popsofctown]

Thus dies my dream of cracking a second golden Faerie Dragon

[blueblimp]

Yeah, this card is probably reasonable power in constructed, since there 3/2s are only used for their crazy effects. I guess my reaction was more thinking of arena, where you're already in a tough spot if you draw a poor opening hand against a raptor. Against this guy, if you can't remove it, you're going to take a huge amount of face damage very quickly. (Also, I forgot about Al'Akir, which is still the best windfury minion.)

[popsofctown]

This is our town scrub.

[Titandrake]

3/2 windfury for 2 sounds way overtuned. If you don't have the removal, you take so much damage from this that you probably lose. If you do, then it's most likely a 1-for-1 trade anyways and that's okay too.

2/2 windfury for 2 would probably have been okay, compare to the 3 mana 2/3 windfury.

[markusin]

3/2 windfury for 2 sounds way overtuned. If you don't have the removal, you take so much damage from this that you probably lose. If you do, then it's most likely a 1-for-1 trade anyways and that's okay too.

2/2 windfury for 2 would probably have been okay, compare to the 3 mana 2/3 windfury.

It'a still far from broken though. With only 2 health, it's unlikely to kill 2 minions with its windfury. It just does some face damage at the same time. I'd be worried if there are shaman cards that buff mechs by turn 3 or 4.

So, no one has anything to say about that Hunter Legendary? It looks like it will strongly encourage midrange Hunter decks.

Edit: Ah wait, forgot about all those attack buff cards (Flametongue, Dire Wolf). Scary.

[pingpongsam]

I'm not doing anything when the new expansion drops but waiting to see how they work it into Arena awards. I need to know if the gold I am currently accumulating is better spent buying packs or tickets. If Arena awards are going to randomly award the old card packs then I'll probably just buy packs.

Arena is supposed to only award the expansion packs once the expansion comes out. So, you're stuck buying regular packs if you want base set cards.

I think you misunderstand. i want the new cards and I don't want to randomly get awarded old ones. I've not seen conclusive evidence that arena is strictly going to award new cards.

[Watno]

https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/530891678719016961

[Jorbles]

So, no one has anything to say about that Hunter Legendary? It looks like it will strongly encourage midrange Hunter decks.

Might make Tundra Rhino see some more play? Currently there's not a lot of beasts that particularly need to charge, but this gives you some nice possibilities. Though it's not perfectly on curve. You could play turn 6 Rhino into turn 7 Godzilla (I'm just going to call it that) kill one of their larger minions and have a 12/something minion or just use him as a fireball to do 6 face damage that's hard to remove. (note he's just below BGH threshold).

This also might make more pings get put into hunter decks. Aggravating Godzilla with Arcane Shot/Elven Archer/Unstable Ghoul/Wild Pyromancer/Mad Bomber to do 12 (or 24?) damage instead of 6 seems so strong the game could easily be decided based on that damage hitting face.

I dunno, it looks like you have to build around him to make him good, but he definitely has the potential to kill someone in a single turn.