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[Ichimaru Gin]

Who's up for a giant revelation/plan now?  Or do we want to discuss other stuff?

I'm ready for the revelation.

[Hydrad]

Who's up for a giant revelation/plan now?  Or do we want to discuss other stuff?

I've been waiting my whole life for this moment

[Robz888]

The flavor implies to me that he was killed THREE times. Once by the Man in Black (bruises from the Smoke Monster), once by the Others (neck snapping), and once by a third faction, possibly Dharma or Freighter or something.

[ashersky]

The flavor implies to me that he was killed THREE times. Once by the Man in Black (bruises from the Smoke Monster), once by the Others (neck snapping), and once by a third faction, possibly Dharma or Freighter or something.

This sounds right.

[Robz888]

Anyone that knows flavor have insight on who would use what method to kill?

Well, the smoke monster would probably strangle/brutalize a body.  I'm guessing the Others kill with guns.

Neck-snapping is an Others thing. Bruised body is a Smoke Monster / Man in Black thing (the Smoke Monster and MIB are the same entity).

[ashersky]

Two small scum teams and an SK?  Hard to balance three kills a night, though.

Something else could be going on.  Or we're reading too much into the flavor.

[Robz888]

Two small scum teams and an SK?  Hard to balance three kills a night, though.

Something else could be going on.  Or we're reading too much into the flavor.

I don't think we are. I definitely see an Others kill and a Smokey/MIB kill.

The gunshot is either third faction or possibly town Vig. The survivors have mega access to guns. Of course, shooting Teproc was a terrible decision for a Vig, but it was potentially redirected or something.

[XerxesPraelor]

I'm happy with how many roles I see from my Pokemon game in recent setups.

I also want to hear the plan.

[XerxesPraelor]

Does anyone want to claim what the ashes are?

vote: ADK to see IG the vote goes through.

[Beyond Awesome]

I think someone may have redirected all kills to Teproc. Maybe someone thought he was scum or scum really wanted him dead because they found out what he was.

Anyway, I got to do a reread on Teproc.

Ash what's your revelation?

[Beyond Awesome]

Okay, I have quickly reread Teproc. Lots of things stand out to me. He appears very towny. He has a strong sense of flavor of Lost. He also seems to keep the game on track. Also, he blasts down Ash's ideas. And, in hindsight never the no lynch nor L-1 were good ideas. Also, he suspected Hydrad and WW of being scum.

After the reinoe lynch, I had been thinking that Ash could be scum. His plans aren't all that great this game. People are just following his lame plans blindly (okay, I did follow the L-1 thing, but I thought we might have time). Also, reinoe claims that scum was instigating his lynch and Ash seemed perfectly fine getting the ball rolling on a reinoe lynch. I would not be surprised if reinoe actually was telling the truth just to mess with us. Also, both Hydrad and WW voted for reinoe with WW hammering.

I know Ash claims to have some revelation but until I see it, for now Vote: Ash

I have to reread Hydrad and WW to see why Teproc was so suspicious of them, but I can see the WW hammer as WW trying to distance himself from reinoe and look towny when reinoe flipped scum. Yes, I am actually willing to believe the words of dying scum this game. We saw how crazy and brash reinoe's play style was, and how he throws fits.

[Hydrad]

I'm guessing part of the reason teproc was suspicious of me and ww is maybe because we were just his partners in a game that just ended?

[ashersky]

Okay, I have quickly reread Teproc. Lots of things stand out to me. He appears very towny. He has a strong sense of flavor of Lost. He also seems to keep the game on track. Also, he blasts down Ash's ideas. And, in hindsight never the no lynch nor L-1 were good ideas. Also, he suspected Hydrad and WW of being scum.

After the reinoe lynch, I had been thinking that Ash could be scum. His plans aren't all that great this game. People are just following his lame plans blindly (okay, I did follow the L-1 thing, but I thought we might have time). Also, reinoe claims that scum was instigating his lynch and Ash seemed perfectly fine getting the ball rolling on a reinoe lynch. I would not be surprised if reinoe actually was telling the truth just to mess with us. Also, both Hydrad and WW voted for reinoe with WW hammering.

I know Ash claims to have some revelation but until I see it, for now Vote: Ash

I have to reread Hydrad and WW to see why Teproc was so suspicious of them, but I can see the WW hammer as WW trying to distance himself from reinoe and look towny when reinoe flipped scum. Yes, I am actually willing to believe the words of dying scum this game. We saw how crazy and brash reinoe's play style was, and how he throws fits.

Wow, a scumread for getting a scum lynch going.  Awesome.  Beyond Awesome, even.

I mean, multiball for sure, so don't go all townread on me, but still, that's funny.

[ashersky]

And now, for the plan.

I am Desmond Hume.

As Robz can confirm (because flavor), I have a power related to the button.  It's basically huge.  Game changing.

Every single player needs to press the button tonight.

[Beyond Awesome]

Do we get to travel back in time?

[Beyond Awesome]

And, I'm jealous. I wanted to be Desmond. He's my favorite character on the show.

[ashersky]

And, I'm jealous. I wanted to be Desmond. He's my favorite character on the show.

He's on The 100 now.

[Hydrad]

Interesting. A worry I have is if you die does this make pushing the button useless. That's really my only concern. I trust you though to know what you are doing.

[ashersky]

Interesting. A worry I have is if you die does this make pushing the button useless. That's really my only concern. I trust you though to know what you are doing.

Well, I mean, it's not useless.  At worse, I just die, right?

[Beyond Awesome]

And, I'm jealous. I wanted to be Desmond. He's my favorite character on the show.

He's on The 100 now.

I know. Great show.

Anyway, I have given your plan some thought, and I have some worries. Ultimately, I have a hard time seeing Desmond as one of The Others. He seems a super town person to me. So, why reveal your identity? Also, on the show, game changing stuff doesn't happen until the button is NOT pressed! Now, obviously, not pressing the button is likely very bad, but by having everyone press the button we also make players vulnerable.  That's like telling a doctor to not doctor someone, telling a tracker (i'm guessing we get a tracker) not to track, etc. etc. etc. Essentially, you render PRs inert for a whole night. And, scum has no incentive to go along with your plan. So, they won't push the button.

Anyway, I want to see something cool happen, but I'm not 100% sure I trust this plan.

[Hydrad]

Interesting. A worry I have is if you die does this make pushing the button useless. That's really my only concern. I trust you though to know what you are doing.

Well, I mean, it's not useless.  At worse, I just die, right?

Ok. I guess I was wondering if it's like a super cop or something where if you die we get no info. That's what I was worried about.

[ashersky]

And, I'm jealous. I wanted to be Desmond. He's my favorite character on the show.

He's on The 100 now.

I know. Great show.

Anyway, I have given your plan some thought, and I have some worries. Ultimately, I have a hard time seeing Desmond as one of The Others. He seems a super town person to me. So, why reveal your identity? Also, on the show, game changing stuff doesn't happen until the button is NOT pressed! Now, obviously, not pressing the button is likely very bad, but by having everyone press the button we also make players vulnerable.  That's like telling a doctor to not doctor someone, telling a tracker (i'm guessing we get a tracker) not to track, etc. etc. etc. Essentially, you render PRs inert for a whole night. And, scum has no incentive to go along with your plan. So, they won't push the button.

Anyway, I want to see something cool happen, but I'm not 100% sure I trust this plan.

Thing is, scum does have incentive, once I tell everyone what happens.  And that's why I think actually town will be against the plan more than scum.  But I'm going to argue it is absolutely worth it.

I just like building suspense with the staggered reveal.

[Hydrad]

Now I'm a bit more worried about this plan. Still super curious.

[ashersky]

I've thought about this since getting my PM, actually, as I wasn't sure how to make this work.  I don't know if I'm going against faust's design (he might have meant this for a late game day), but I'm looking to get the most out of this power that he's given me.

I will say, there is significant risk to this whole thing.

[Hydrad]

Curiosity is getting bigger!