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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (Day 2)
« Reply #300 on: January 25, 2015, 12:03:22 pm »

I could feel that I was playing scummier than usual, but I couldn't exactly tell what I was doing wrong.

I felt like I was playing townier than usual (for scum anyway - I think I've only been scum one other time), but I know exactly what I was doing wrong.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (Day 2)
« Reply #301 on: January 25, 2015, 12:05:30 pm »

By the way Joseph, you have to name a MVP. I'd suggest WW, but it's up to you as the mod.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (Day 2)
« Reply #302 on: January 25, 2015, 12:22:02 pm »

By the way Joseph, you have to name a MVP. I'd suggest WW, but it's up to you as the mod.

I thought I'd already posted MVP, apparently not. So:
MVP: Witherweaver
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #303 on: January 25, 2015, 12:22:16 pm »

Yay, thanks!
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #304 on: January 25, 2015, 01:47:31 pm »

that was quick.

I almost signed up for this, but I don't like blitz. I do like the pink mod color though.

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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #305 on: January 25, 2015, 01:50:40 pm »

Too bad I didn't fake that townslip, though.  That would have been epic.  I legitimately read over the setup and came away with "two scum, two ICs, this is different than last time.". Even though that made no sense.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #306 on: January 25, 2015, 01:52:47 pm »

Too bad I didn't fake that townslip, though.  That would have been epic.  I legitimately read over the setup and came away with "two scum, two ICs, this is different than last time.". Even though that made no sense.

The thing that really make it work was that not only did you say that, you ALSO forgot about daychat. I thought if you had been scum, you would have thought it was too over-the top and only done one of the two.

The bigger the lie... well in this case it wasn't, but had it been, it would have been glorious.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #307 on: January 25, 2015, 01:53:43 pm »

Too bad I didn't fake that townslip, though.  That would have been epic.  I legitimately read over the setup and came away with "two scum, two ICs, this is different than last time.". Even though that made no sense.

Reading setups correctly is a scum tell.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #308 on: January 25, 2015, 01:54:50 pm »

Too bad I didn't fake that townslip, though.  That would have been epic.  I legitimately read over the setup and came away with "two scum, two ICs, this is different than last time.". Even though that made no sense.

Reading setups correctly is a scum tell.

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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #309 on: January 25, 2015, 06:10:21 pm »

Just looked, apparently this is the 8th consecutive town win on Blitz games, and the 5th consecutive town win on this setup.

I was thinking of running this again some point, here are some possible changes I was thinking about:

(1). Fix the start time (i.e. say D1 starts at 10am on Monday, not whenever people have replied like i did here- seems like there wasn't much activity right at the start, because no-one knew when it was starting)
(2). Activity was lower than I thought, so I'll probably try it on weekdays instead.
(3). Maybe Day 1 should be longer (36hrs perhaps?)
(4). I should have set a time limit (30 minutes or an hour) on the vengekill, as theoretically scum could have taken indefinitely long to make the kill.
(5). Would only 1 IC make the setup more balanced? I'm not sure if it sways it too much to scum.

Thoughts on any of these ideas would be helpful.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (Day 2)
« Reply #310 on: January 25, 2015, 07:13:22 pm »

I could feel that I was playing scummier than usual, but I couldn't exactly tell what I was doing wrong.

I felt like I was playing townier than usual (for scum anyway - I think I've only been scum one other time), but I know exactly what I was doing wrong.
I agree.  I thought you were town for sure.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #311 on: January 25, 2015, 07:15:10 pm »

I've run a few variations on this, none struck me as better than the original.

When we first started running it, scum was more successful.  It's all about getting that mislynch on D1.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #312 on: January 25, 2015, 07:34:52 pm »

Maybe scum overcoordinates with Daychat?  I dunno.. I'm not sure why, but Awaclus' vote on me felt off.. like.. SfS was pushing me but not voting, and Awaclus actually votes.. felt weird.  In retrospect, I should have realized this when I was assigning SfS a town read.

Though, this wasn't talked about in QT, so maybe it's not about Daychat.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #313 on: January 26, 2015, 02:16:25 am »

I want to say sorry to my partners. I had not anticipated that this game would be conducted over week end, and my nasty flu certanly had not helped
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #314 on: January 26, 2015, 05:29:31 am »

Well done Town! :)
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #315 on: January 26, 2015, 06:21:14 am »

I vote to never being a IC again. To much pressure!
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #316 on: January 26, 2015, 08:27:37 am »

Though, this wasn't talked about in QT, so maybe it's not about Daychat.

The two times I've been scum, I've found the daychat to be pretty much useless.
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Re: ZM20: The Perfect Dominion Engine (TOWN WIN FLAWLESSLY!!!)
« Reply #317 on: January 26, 2015, 10:00:11 am »

I'm thinking of running another Blitz game in a couple of weeks, during the week (as weekend seemed like a bad time). Still deciding on the setup, between:
(a). This setup
(b). A small modification of this setup (there have been a few done on here, like Masons not IC)
(c). Another simple setup.
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