Hydrad reread:
D1Joins in the theory discussion at the beginning of the game.
One point that he
makes twice is that scum can have a big impact on voting because they have (had) 4 people. His conclusion is that "It might be better to just ignore votes and stuff." I think this attitude could go either way, especially if hydrad is town and wants to set himself up to just shoot whoever he wants to. So null based on the theory stuff.
Votes for me based on a gut feeling that either myself or WW is scum, and after a coin flip landed on me. (not really, that is just my editorial). However, after my wagon shoots up quickly jumps off and
goes to WW. Still the gut feeling, but adds his little joke about it being time for WW to be scum again. He then
re-emphasizes that he really doesn't have a case on WW, just a gut feeling.
He
throws out that he would be willing to vote for sudgy
His only real post about eevee:
I still like WW the most out of these options. I don't really have a read on eevee though. Most games he seems really null for me.
And that is it for D1. I get a relatively towny vibe overall, mostly because of his WW and e votes. I just really don't see scum voting based on "gut feelings" and not really going into depth about it. However, if sudgy flips scum, I would think Hydrad is much scummier. He gave eevee a null read, and a casual "might vote sudgy" on D1 when sudgy wasn't really too seriously considered. Staying neutral on eevee could easily be scum trying to avoid getting their partner lynched, but I just don't really see all of the "gut feeling" votes coming from scum
D2MUCH more active D2. But here we go.
Opens up with a sudgy vote and saying that WW is townier.
Then we get this interesting tidbit:
wait does mafia have daychat then if there are no nights? I don't see any mention of this in the first few posts.
Is this town!Hydrad who hasn't paid attention, or scum!Hydrad who is trying to manipulate town? Right now I lean manipulative scum, but I just haven't ever seen Hydrad use that kind of manipulation before.
States that sudgy and xp are his top scumreads right now (after the shift away from WW). But then tells xp that he thinks
he is towny except for his voting record? So very hedgy there, but still maintaining that he thinks xp is scum (would think hydrad is much scummier if xp flips scum)
States the same concern he had about the sudgy wagon that he voiced about my wagon, so that is consistent at least. Except he doesn't switch his vote away from sudgy to xp like he switched away from me to WW. Again, if xp is scum, I will be very suspicious of hydrad.
Gives an interesting "defense" as to why he ended up off wagon at the end of D1. Basically, scum should have bussed, I didn't bus, so I am not scum.
But then he says he has a town read on WW because he bussed eevee, except he had just stated that he thought scum would be bussing. Which way is it?
Gives a
null on sudgy. Except he is still voting for sudgy. So is it null, or is it I am voting you and think you are scum?
Then immediately talks about switching off sudgy to move over to xp. But again, doesn't actually make the switch but instead asks what everyone else thinks.
And then later
he goes back to saying that WW is in his top 3 for scum. Which he confirms his
reasoning for scum!WW here. Which actually provides more consistency for what he had been saying earlier about scum bussing their their partner eevee D1.
Then says Teproc is being scummy for trying to set up a mislynch then be able to back off it later when it comes through.
Also, hroughout the day he has some interesting tidbits that rub me the wrong way. Like "
and yes I know people will probably find this scummy somehow. I just wanted to post it anyways." and "
oh interesting I learned a new word. "lamenting"." and "
Although I guess I don't really know how to defend myself :/" and "
So WW. What do you think of us being a scumteam?" and "
(even if they seem to make me look scummy most of the time)" and "
woo! Someones on my side" and "
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be scummy..." and "
Your free to do a reread if you want though! any kinda of reread is useful I think.". Basically, a bunch of self-conscious/fun/easygoing/jokey/quasi-serious/buddy-buddy posts that seem like a pretty big attempt at appearing towny.
Conclusion: The more inactive D1 hydrad seemed pretty towny to me. The more active D2 Hydrad did a few things that seem suspect to me. Given that, I think Hydrad is town. 1) I don't think scum would waffle like he did concerning WW. 2) While the random posts I talked about last rub me the wrong way, I actually think they are genuine and come from town!hydrad.
Caveats: If WW or XP flip scum, I think Hydrad is pretty likely to be scum. His early abandonment of WW, then defense of himself being off wagon, then back onto WW as scum could very well have been a realization of his inconsistency and need to correct that to appear consistent and towny. His lack of vote for xp after he voices concern about sudgy then when he mentions switching to xp but never does it really makes him look scummy if xp ever flips scum.
PPE: whew, that took a while, but I read through the posts between start time and finish and included anything relevant in my post.
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