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[jotheonah]

Explanations for no kill:

JK jailkept mafia
Mafia shot BP townie
Mafia shot commuter who was commuting
Mafia didn't shoot

[silverspawn]

I think this pretty much confirms no SK too, which is very good. Assuming IG's claim is true, that leaves us with these options:

Watcher, Jailkeeper, Psychologist; 2-shot JOAT
1-shot BP Commuter, Psychologist, Detective; Mafia Knows Traitor
Goon Cop, Psychologist, Bodyguard; 1-shot Investigation Immune

I support a massclaim.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Explanations for no kill:

JK jailkept mafia
Mafia shot BP townie
Mafia shot commuter who was commuting
Mafia didn't shoot

Also.
Mafia shot traitor and recruited them.
traitor roleblocked Mafia by accident.

[jotheonah]

I worry that there's no IC or obv!town to direct a massclaim in a productive way.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I worry that there's no IC or obv!town to direct a massclaim in a productive way.

I agree. However, if I were to choose someone to direct it right now, I'd pick ash.

[silverspawn]

I worry that there's no IC or obv!town to direct a massclaim in a productive way.

I agree. However, if I were to choose someone to direct it right now, I'd pick ash.

I wouldn't. Why ash?

[Ichimaru Gin]

I worry that there's no IC or obv!town to direct a massclaim in a productive way.

I agree. However, if I were to choose someone to direct it right now, I'd pick ash.

I wouldn't. Why ash?

Because he's very good with setups and is more town to me than anyone else at this point.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Also, how does everyone feel about me revealing who I diagnosed last night?
Should I wait, or claim it right away?

[silverspawn]

I don't doubt ash's skills, but he could easily be scum.

I'd rather have WW do this, he was tunneling Hydrad. Or what about me? I could have easily put my vote on Jimmmm instead before going afk. Why do that as scum? just to do this argument?

[ashersky]

Explanations for no kill:

JK jailkept mafia
Mafia shot BP townie
Mafia shot commuter who was commuting
Mafia didn't shoot

Also.
Mafia shot traitor and recruited them.
traitor roleblocked Mafia by accident.

I think IG is right.  And it's very possible he was the one who was shot and recruited.

I think a claim that confirms his claim would be very helpful.

[jotheonah]

Also, how does everyone feel about me revealing who I diagnosed last night?
Should I wait, or claim it right away?

you should just tell us. You're already outed.

I don't doubt ash's skills, but he could easily be scum.

I'd rather have WW do this, he was tunneling Hydrad. Or what about me? I could have easily put my vote on Jimmmm instead before going afk. Why do that as scum? just to do this argument?

Maybe Jimmmmm's also scum. And he quickhammered for town points and because he knew somebody was going down.

(I don't actually believe that, but it's possible)

[jotheonah]

Explanations for no kill:

JK jailkept mafia
Mafia shot BP townie
Mafia shot commuter who was commuting
Mafia didn't shoot

Also.
Mafia shot traitor and recruited them.
traitor roleblocked Mafia by accident.

I think IG is right.  And it's very possible he was the one who was shot and recruited.

I think a claim that confirms his claim would be very helpful.

Oh suddenly you like my theory!

[Jimmmmm]

Maybe Jimmmmm's also scum. And he quickhammered for town points and because he knew somebody was going down.

(I don't actually believe that, but it's possible)

Maybe I'm the Traitor and hammered because I thought Hydrad was Town.

[ashersky]

I think this pretty much confirms no SK too, which is very good. Assuming IG's claim is true, that leaves us with these options:

Watcher, Jailkeeper, Psychologist; 2-shot JOAT
1-shot BP Commuter, Psychologist, Detective; Mafia Knows Traitor
Goon Cop, Psychologist, Bodyguard; 1-shot Investigation Immune

I support a massclaim.

I say limited claim for now.

Anyone with a role not on this list could claim and catch Ichi.

Anyone on this list could help confirm Ichi.

[silverspawn]

Also, how does everyone feel about me revealing who I diagnosed last night?
Should I wait, or claim it right away?

I don't think you should claim right away.

[silverspawn]

Anyone with a role not on this list could claim and catch Ichi.

Anyone on this list could help confirm Ichi.

so, everyone claims?

[jotheonah]

I think this pretty much confirms no SK too, which is very good. Assuming IG's claim is true, that leaves us with these options:

Watcher, Jailkeeper, Psychologist; 2-shot JOAT
1-shot BP Commuter, Psychologist, Detective; Mafia Knows Traitor
Goon Cop, Psychologist, Bodyguard; 1-shot Investigation Immune

I support a massclaim.

I say limited claim for now.

Anyone with a role not on this list could claim and catch Ichi.

Anyone on this list could help confirm Ichi.

I like the first part, but not the second part.

[Jimmmmm]

I think this pretty much confirms no SK too, which is very good. Assuming IG's claim is true, that leaves us with these options:

Watcher, Jailkeeper, Psychologist; 2-shot JOAT
1-shot BP Commuter, Psychologist, Detective; Mafia Knows Traitor
Goon Cop, Psychologist, Bodyguard; 1-shot Investigation Immune

I support a massclaim.

I say limited claim for now.

Anyone with a role not on this list could claim and catch Ichi.

Anyone on this list could help confirm Ichi.

So you're saying anyone with a role should claim. Which is a massclaim.

PPE ninja'd

[Ichimaru Gin]

So now you guys think I'm scummy just because I read the setup?
I thought it was (and is) important to know all the possibilities of why there was no NK last night--and obviously joth agreed.
Why would I provide that information if it was true and I had been recruited?
Whatever, if we're going to massclaim today, I'm not claiming my target right away--so I agree with silver there.

PPE: like 5

[silverspawn]

for what it's worth, I don't think you're scummy anymore.

[Witherweaver]

I'm going to go ahead and claim IC status!

[Witherweaver]

I think this pretty much confirms no SK too, which is very good. Assuming IG's claim is true, that leaves us with these options:

Watcher, Jailkeeper, Psychologist; 2-shot JOAT
1-shot BP Commuter, Psychologist, Detective; Mafia Knows Traitor
Goon Cop, Psychologist, Bodyguard; 1-shot Investigation Immune

I support a massclaim.

SK has the option to use abilities instead of shoot, if he wanted to.  Not sure if it would be a good idea or not.

[jotheonah]

I think if anyone has a role not on that list (i.e. a role that would out Ichi as a liar) they should claim.

If you are either a VT or a role in one of those three, you should post and say "no claim"

Once everyone's responded to that, we can consider having other PRs claim.

[Witherweaver]

Explanations for no kill:

JK jailkept mafia
Mafia shot BP townie
Mafia shot commuter who was commuting
Mafia didn't shoot

Also.
Mafia shot traitor and recruited them.
traitor roleblocked Mafia by accident.

I think IG is right.  And it's very possible he was the one who was shot and recruited.

I think a claim that confirms his claim would be very helpful.

I agree.

[Witherweaver]

I think if anyone has a role not on that list (i.e. a role that would out Ichi as a liar) they should claim.

If you are either a VT or a role in one of those three, you should post and say "no claim"

Once everyone's responded to that, we can consider having other PRs claim.

This sounds reasonable.