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[Witherweaver]

Oh okay.. another Goon then? 

Though it still wasn't a pure PR because he needed a vote to let him use it.  Things probably would have gone differently if Robz and I started suspecting XP a lot.

[Robz888]

GG.

Scum felt under-powered, but I think that was just the result of town getting an extra, unintentional PR: WW as IC. ICs are strong.

Also, hitting scum Day 1 typically results in a scum loss no matter what.

[Witherweaver]

GG.

Scum felt under-powered, but I think that was just the result of town getting an extra, unintentional PR: WW as IC. ICs are strong.

Also, hitting scum Day 1 typically results in a scum loss no matter what.

*Flex*

[Voltaire]

Woo, we win. And I think this is my first town MVP!

Thanks for modding, faust. This was great.

[azadin]

faust, awesome job. I loved the flavor of this game. Very creative flips!

I also don't really understand my death N1...can scum explain that?

[Teproc]

faust, awesome job. I loved the flavor of this game. Very creative flips!

I also don't really understand my death N1...can scum explain that?

They thought you hammering PPS made you ICish and you weren't as likely to be doctored as WW or Voltaire. Interestingly they didn't consider killing ash who had breadcrumbed like mad (which is why I doctored him).

[Hydrad]

I really need to get better at looking at breadcrumbs... I never see them until people explain that they were there.

[Witherweaver]

faust, awesome job. I loved the flavor of this game. Very creative flips!

I also don't really understand my death N1...can scum explain that?

They thought you hammering PPS made you ICish and you weren't as likely to be doctored as WW or Voltaire. Interestingly they didn't consider killing ash who had breadcrumbed like mad (which is why I doctored him).

Why didn't you use the breadcrumbing as defense against Ash being scum?  Or do you think he would have made sure to do that as scum, too?

Also, I didn't pick up on the breadcrumbing.  I'm still not sure what posts it was, just that people were convinced he did it.

[pingpongsam]

Obviously hitting the jailkeeper D1 was really lucky for town.

It wasn't luck.

[pacovf]

Huh, Ash hadn't breadcrumbed, he had outright stated that he had a PR.

Read the Targaryen QT. I'm glad to see at least WW thought I was townie. And man, XP choices by the end were kinda scary.

[Teproc]

I never felt ash was in any danger of being lynched after day 2 and yeah, he could have breadcrumbed as scum.

I don't remember exactly but I remember it being really obvious, I'm surprised you didn't pick up on it.

[Witherweaver]

I don't pick up on those things usually.

Huh, Ash hadn't breadcrumbed, he had outright stated that he had a PR.

Read the Targaryen QT. I'm glad to see at least WW thought I was townie. And man, XP choices by the end were kinda scary.

Hm.. I don't think he outright stated it.. he said something like "If I claimed daycop, would you believe me that Pac is scum?" or something.. I don't think that counts.

[pacovf]

Ash had breadcrumbed that he had a PR before he softclaimed. I mentioned that while Ash looked like a viable lynch for a moment, which was making me think.

Still, copping Voltaire was such a bad choice, I had to put him back on the table again.

[Teproc]

That wasn't it. It came later when were discussing plans to move.

[pacovf]

I'm tempted to full claim and get killed or ask for a replacement.

[pacovf]

All the posts leading to that were a crescendo of softclaims.

[silverspawn]

...I still don't understand the Azadin kill...

I was stupid. I thought something along the lines of "scum might try to kill baratheon(? (the house were we were in)) hand of the king. that's probably either voltaire or azadin, based on reputation. so, If I kill azadin, it might make people think that there is no scum in the house (because, then scum wouldn't know that it's voltaire and not azadin), when, in fact, both scum were in the house. but killing the hand of the king doesn't really do anything, so the plan was just, well, bad.

EgorK even suggested ash. that would have been a lot better. well, I didn't want to do ash because he suspected you, and I was hoping for a mislynch. Still, it would have been better.

[Teproc]

ash would have been much worse since he was doctored. azadin wasn't a bad kill really, it was a very safe kill because he was definitely not going to be doctored.

[silverspawn]

ash would have been much worse since he was doctored. azadin wasn't a bad kill really, it was a very safe kill because he was definitely not going to be doctored.

that doesn't change the fact that the primary motivation for the kill didn't make any sense.

I think the fact that he was doctored doesn't really change the situation. It's not about whether or not he was doctored, but about how likely it was that he would be at that time. And yea, it was kinda likely because he hinted at a PR, but still, I think when you lose 1 scum on day1, that's the type of situation where you have to take risks. I think ash was the best lynch in that situation. either him or robz.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Of course you guys had to go and win the game while I was asleep.

Congrats on MVP Voltaire!! You totally deserved it. I should have doctored you N3, but hindsight's 20/20 I guess.

And thanks for an awesome game faust! I don't know the flavor, but the house mechanics made things really interesting.

[EgorK]

Of course you guys had to go and win the game while I was asleep.

Congrats on MVP Voltaire!! You totally deserved it. I should have doctored you N3, but hindsight's 20/20 I guess.

And thanks for an awesome game faust! I don't know the flavor, but the house mechanics made things really interesting.

I'd used coin to decide between ash and volt both nights, so it is not like you made a mistake

[ashersky]

Great job Voltaire, agree with that MVP selection 100%.

[pacovf]

For what it's worth, I think you had a strong performance, Ash. The setup being closed, and lynching scum D1 and D2, are probably the only reasons people suspected you at all.

Well, aside from copping Voltaire, but let's not get back to that.

[ashersky]

For what it's worth, I think you had a strong performance, Ash. The setup being closed, and lynching scum D1 and D2, are probably the only reasons people suspected you at all.

Well, aside from copping Voltaire, but let's not get back to that.

You didn't bend under crazy ash pressure.  That was an awesome newbie performance in my book.  Glad to see I was wrong in the end about your alignment.

[Witherweaver]

For what it's worth, I think you had a strong performance, Ash. The setup being closed, and lynching scum D1 and D2, are probably the only reasons people suspected you at all.

Well, aside from copping Voltaire, but let's not get back to that.

You didn't bend under crazy ash pressure.  That was an awesome newbie performance in my book.  Glad to see I was wrong in the end about your alignment.

I didn't quite understand you pushing him so long.  Is that an attempt to stay in your meta, or did you really continue to believe he was scum after Day 2ish?  His play just didn't seem very scummy to me after Day 1.

I also initially threw my support behind Pacovf because I wanted to see how he (and others) would react.  And you've been calling scum out early pretty well lately.