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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins!
« Reply #2925 on: October 08, 2014, 09:11:45 am »

And yeah, thanks faust for organizing, obviously the flavour was great, sorry for the WW thing, I do think my argments were sound (since they weren't based on him getting the same flavour as me, but on his reaction to that).

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« Reply #2926 on: October 08, 2014, 09:14:41 am »

- I think things would have been more tense if only one House move was allowed.

I think a better condition would have been to allow only one move per house per phase. Only the first PM asking to move counts. Something like that, more dynamic.

What was Lannister's empowered power, by the way?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins!
« Reply #2927 on: October 08, 2014, 09:15:00 am »

Pretty happy we won before I felt the need to reread, that would have been painful.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins!
« Reply #2928 on: October 08, 2014, 09:15:22 am »

- I think things would have been more tense if only one House move was allowed.

I think a better condition would have been to allow only one move per house per phase. Only the first PM asking to move counts. Something like that, more dynamic.

What was Lannister's empowered power, by the way?

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« Reply #2929 on: October 08, 2014, 09:16:19 am »

Pretty happy we won before I felt the need to reread, that would have been painful.

I did a targeted reread of EgorK and Hydrad during D3 and it was painful already...
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins!
« Reply #2930 on: October 08, 2014, 09:22:48 am »

Huh, Robz really thought I was scum apparently ?
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« Reply #2931 on: October 08, 2014, 09:23:03 am »

Thing was, I really don't see Silverspawn choosing to lynch his partner XP over his partner PPS.  That and I've played quite a few times with town XP pretty much convinced me he was town, or at the very least not Mafia.
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« Reply #2932 on: October 08, 2014, 09:24:52 am »

Huh, Robz really thought I was scum apparently ?

Yeah.. well, we did Roleblock you the same night Ash was successfully doctored.  That made you look bad.   We only went for the Roleblock to cover an unlikely event, because we figured the Cop/Tracker would cover the likely targets.  You had acted funny when Silverspawn confessed, so there was some reasonable suspicion.
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« Reply #2933 on: October 08, 2014, 09:27:01 am »

So XP/Danaerys could have been scum?  That role seems a little swingy.

In case it wasn't clear (we didn't actually announce it here I think), only XP could use our House power.  We had to vote for whether or not he was able to use it, but only he had the ability.  If he died, we would have lost the Roleblock/Rolestop.  I'm not sure if the House would be dissolved or not.
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« Reply #2934 on: October 08, 2014, 09:27:44 am »

We decided to keep that part secret (because scum could kill him to get rid of the PR).
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« Reply #2935 on: October 08, 2014, 09:28:39 am »

To be fair, we'll see how you act when someone says you're their scumpartner after they've been lynched. It's a strange feeling.

PPE : I actually thought you claimed that. Well I thought you had to vote for him, I didn't think you'd get to choose if he could use the power.
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« Reply #2936 on: October 08, 2014, 09:29:08 am »

Sweet, I get the final chapter !

First time to the end of a game? :)
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« Reply #2937 on: October 08, 2014, 09:30:42 am »

To be fair, we'll see how you act when someone says you're their scumpartner after they've been lynched. It's a strange feeling.

PPE : I actually thought you claimed that. Well I thought you had to vote for him, I didn't think you'd get to choose if he could use the power.

Hm, maybe we said he automatically becomes Hand if we're the leading house, but I don't think that implies the role thing.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins!
« Reply #2938 on: October 08, 2014, 09:31:04 am »

And the Lannister empowerement wasn't great. Better than Baratheon, but definitely much worse than Stark.

PPE : Nah, it must be the fourth time I think ? I lost at lylo as town in GoT (first game), survived all the way to the end of Chocolate Factory (second game), and then kept dying until Legend of Zelda Mafia where I got it wrong at lylo as town, again.
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« Reply #2939 on: October 08, 2014, 09:31:52 am »

And the Lannister empowerement wasn't great. Better than Baratheon, but definitely much worse than Stark.

PPE : Nah, it must be the fourth time I think ? I lost at lylo as town in GoT (first game), survived all the way to the end of Chocolate Factory (second game), and then kept dying until Legend of Zelda Mafia where I got it wrong at lylo as town, again.

Oh yeah, Legend of Zelda... that's why we don't let you live until LyLo!
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« Reply #2940 on: October 08, 2014, 09:38:13 am »

I think you did really well in Zelda. Hydrad was super scummy.

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins!
« Reply #2941 on: October 08, 2014, 09:46:14 am »

I think you did really well in Zelda. Hydrad was super scummy.

Not my fault :(
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins!
« Reply #2942 on: October 08, 2014, 09:50:44 am »

...I still don't understand the Azadin kill...
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« Reply #2943 on: October 08, 2014, 09:55:13 am »

On Day 1 I didn't know XP was town (I was leaning more town than not, but was still a little null).. but I knew I didn't want him lynched because I didn't want to lose the potential Roleblock power (plus whatever empowerment was.. we didn't know what it would be during Day 1).  So I insisted he didn't get lynched without given reasons, and without being that confident in his towniness.

I think it was just pure unluckiness for scum that it ended up XP or PPS. 
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« Reply #2944 on: October 08, 2014, 10:04:02 am »

It was said town had a lot of PRs many times, but really there were only two town PRs and two scum PRs:

Town Cop
Town Tracker
Scum Jailkeeper
Scum One-Shot Ninja

The House powers could have ended up controlled by Scum or Town, but they all ended up Town controlled.  But I guess Town controlling the House power is more likely since Town outnumber Scum.
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« Reply #2945 on: October 08, 2014, 10:06:07 am »

Even if scum had gotten the powers, they had to face accountability issues if they did weird things with them. Plus, town could empty houses.
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« Reply #2946 on: October 08, 2014, 10:10:18 am »

Even if scum had gotten the powers, they had to face accountability issues if they did weird things with them. Plus, town could empty houses.

Right, but as you saw emptying houses was an issue.  We had to protect against the chance that scum stayed or moved back into a house.. if we have a public plan, scum can exploit it.. if we let people make their own choice, we question their alignment.  You got suspected for testing if Baratheon was really gone.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins!
« Reply #2947 on: October 08, 2014, 10:15:40 am »

It was said town had a lot of PRs many times, but really there were only two town PRs and two scum PRs:

Town Cop
Town Tracker
Scum Jailkeeper
Scum One-Shot Ninja

The House powers could have ended up controlled by Scum or Town, but they all ended up Town controlled.  But I guess Town controlling the House power is more likely since Town outnumber Scum.

Well, Xerxes had a power role as well.
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« Reply #2948 on: October 08, 2014, 10:18:35 am »

It was said town had a lot of PRs many times, but really there were only two town PRs and two scum PRs:

Town Cop
Town Tracker
Scum Jailkeeper
Scum One-Shot Ninja

The House powers could have ended up controlled by Scum or Town, but they all ended up Town controlled.  But I guess Town controlling the House power is more likely since Town outnumber Scum.

Well, Xerxes had a power role as well.

But he could have rolled scum, right?  Or that was a guaranteed town role?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins!
« Reply #2949 on: October 08, 2014, 10:21:10 am »

It was said town had a lot of PRs many times, but really there were only two town PRs and two scum PRs:

Town Cop
Town Tracker
Scum Jailkeeper
Scum One-Shot Ninja

The House powers could have ended up controlled by Scum or Town, but they all ended up Town controlled.  But I guess Town controlling the House power is more likely since Town outnumber Scum.

Well, Xerxes had a power role as well.

But he could have rolled scum, right?  Or that was a guaranteed town role?

If scum got that role, they would not have had a Jailkeeper.
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