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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #275 on: September 12, 2014, 11:55:21 am »

This isn't redirection. It's a new action, limited in choice by what our target has previously performed on us.

And to be clear, we don't get a "choice" - if we target a scum RB, for example, and they've RB'd us in the past and shot us (let's pretend we were successfully doctored), we'd perform the most recent action on the RB - we wouldn't get to chose RB or kill.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #276 on: September 12, 2014, 11:59:53 am »

Also every time I say "we" I mean "the person chosen that night to be the Lannister who gets to use the power"
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #277 on: September 12, 2014, 12:05:24 pm »

Tep, WW, you're here. Why u no reveal Stark/Targ powers?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #278 on: September 12, 2014, 12:07:13 pm »

Tep revealed Stark.  I'll wait on XP/Robz to chime in on revealing the Targ ability.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #279 on: September 12, 2014, 12:09:44 pm »

That doesn't sound difficult at all... The problem is the power can be used against town, so we might not want to empower it.

The Stark power is a bodyguard. It is empowered if the Lannister house has perished. It is not clear what it becomes then, but my guess is Doctor, because that makes sense as a Bodyguard upragde. Doesn't make that much sense for the Starks though.

Hah, totally missed the second paragraph.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #280 on: September 12, 2014, 12:12:44 pm »

I'd almost support dissolving Lannister for Stark.  But maybe there is a more creative way to use Lannister ability.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #281 on: September 12, 2014, 12:15:32 pm »

I'd almost support dissolving Lannister for Stark.  But maybe there is a more creative way to use Lannister ability.

I tentatively agree with this sentiment.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #282 on: September 12, 2014, 12:18:15 pm »

I'd almost support dissolving Lannister for Stark.  But maybe there is a more creative way to use Lannister ability.

Yes, absolutely, I think this should happen.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #283 on: September 12, 2014, 12:23:25 pm »

Oh wow, that is an interesting power. I have to think about it.

I was hoping that the Lannisters would get an investigative role, it made sense from a balance point of view: town doesn't get a pseudo-unkillable doctor unless there are no investigative roles left.

Wait... can we use the Lannister power as a sort of investigative role? I don't think so, it is so oddly specific... assuming that you correctly target a PR, that PR still had to target you beforehand for you to get any information...

Can you ask if you get to know what (if any) power you used on your target? For example, if you roleblock your target, do you only roleblock him or do you also get a message telling you that you roleblocked him?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #284 on: September 12, 2014, 12:25:36 pm »

Hum, if Stark bodyguards the Lannister, and the Lannister targets the Stark, and one of them gets killed... what happens?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #285 on: September 12, 2014, 12:26:39 pm »

Oh wow, that is an interesting power. I have to think about it.

I was hoping that the Lannisters would get an investigative role, it made sense from a balance point of view: town doesn't get a pseudo-unkillable doctor unless there are no investigative roles left.

What pseudo-unkillable doctor are you talking about?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #286 on: September 12, 2014, 12:33:44 pm »

House roles are pseudo-unkillable: if you kill one, another one takes its spot.

I am kinda assuming that Stark's empowered power is Doctor, because it makes a lot of sense. Could be something else, but in the end it's still a protective role, so it doesn't really matter.

Hence, pseudo-unkillable protective role + investigative role = profit.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #287 on: September 12, 2014, 12:38:14 pm »

Though,  you know, scum can be in the Houses, too....
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #288 on: September 12, 2014, 12:45:50 pm »

Certainly. But if scum wants the House power, they have to fight to get it, which can expose them to their House partners. Plus, all scum won't be alive forever. Once we are down to one scum, for example, there's not much he can do to avoid such a scenario.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #289 on: September 12, 2014, 12:50:12 pm »

I like the idea of dissolving House Lannister to empower House Stark, but only after we get the Targaryen and Baratheon powers to know if there's anything we can do with them and the Lannister power.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #290 on: September 12, 2014, 12:51:01 pm »

Hmm ok well I think I should just claim? I still haven't been able to get in contact with egork but I think claiming will do more good then harm for town here. Even though I think there's a high hance scum doesn't know what our power is
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #291 on: September 12, 2014, 12:54:45 pm »

Well obviously it's easier for you to say that since you know (or pretend to know) that half of your house is town, but really scum can find out your power by switching to your house anyway, so...
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #292 on: September 12, 2014, 12:59:14 pm »

Ya ok. Well in that case I'm just going to claim since I want people to join anyways.

Our power is basically a arsonist. We can prime someone each night or light all the people we have primed on fire.

Our empowerment is that we need stannis baratheon to sit on the throne. Both me and egork thought that it was the other person so I'm guessing pps thinking of it being the npc when the house is the biggest is right.

So really for our empowerment all we need is someone like ichi and then a single lannister and we should have our empowerment as long as no one else gets as big.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #293 on: September 12, 2014, 01:00:21 pm »

Oh also I'm guessing empowerment might be a vig then? I dunno
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #294 on: September 12, 2014, 01:02:05 pm »

That's a very dangerous power... what do the experts think?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #295 on: September 12, 2014, 01:05:04 pm »

The night is dark and full of terrors.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #296 on: September 12, 2014, 01:05:43 pm »

Ya it's either another night kill for scum if they control it or a way to hit and kill scum if town controls it.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #297 on: September 12, 2014, 01:06:46 pm »

Plan: we abandon Baratheon. Anyone who doesn't leave it, or joins it, is admitting to being scum.

Or we have the most impossible-to-control-but-also-awesome town-ish vig ever. I can go either way.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #298 on: September 12, 2014, 01:08:12 pm »

What happes if you chose not to use your power ?

Again we do have an IC so it can be useful, especially if it becomes a vig once turned on (the Lannisters can go there if we decide to abandon the Lannister house.

Can someone think of any useful application of this with the Lannister power ?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #299 on: September 12, 2014, 01:08:21 pm »

oh also if there is scum in Lannister my current pick would be PPS
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