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[ghostofmars]

G3 engineer to I7

I7 is already neutrally filled.  Do you mean I10 or I4?

Oh wait, you probably mean K7, with the I being the tier level.

Assuming I am correct, I'll take the Group 1 Engineer to H10.

yeah, I meant k7 

[Kirian]

Last Engineer to H4

[Tables]

Current Player: ghostofmars

Caravan Location: Eshnunna
First player: eHalcyon
Round Number: 12
Garden tiles left: 4

Group 1	Group 2	Group 3
X	Merchant	X
Merchant	Merchant	X
X	X	X

	Kirian	ghostofmars	eHalcyon
Prestige	52	59	80
Resources	Dates	Salt, Dates, Salt	Palm
Camels	2	3	2
Talents	1	1	3

Link to game sheet

[ghostofmars]

Group 2 merchant

[eHalcyon]

Merchant

[Tables]

Kirian I believe has no choice but to pass.

Current Player: ghostofmars

Caravan Location: Eshnunna
First player: eHalcyon
Round Number: 12
Garden tiles left: 4

Group 1	Group 2	Group 3
X	X	X
Merchant	X	X
X	X	X

	Kirian	ghostofmars	eHalcyon
Prestige	52	59	80
Resources	Dates	Salt, Dates, Salt	Palm
Camels	2	4	3
Talents	1	0	1

Link to game sheet

[eHalcyon]

I believe Kirian must pass.  He doesn't have enough talents to get the remaining Merchant, and he can't use the location that takes Dates.

[Kirian]

Yep.

[ghostofmars]

Unfortunately, I could not wait long enough for eHalcyon to move

Spend my remaining camels to go to Khorsabad, Gardener + Dates + Salt = 8vp + 2vp (irrigation bonus).

Pass after eHalcyon's turn. Procession to Marduk

[eHalcyon]

1 camel to go to Babylon, selling nothing and irrigating in the last spot available, just for kicks.

Kirian gets $1. ghost passes.

1 camel to Ur, plant in H11 for 2VP, $2 and 1VP irrigation bonus.

Others each get $1. 

I take last Merchant so I end with a breeding pair of camels.

Others get $1.  I pass.

For Tammouz, I take Palm for the shade.

[Tables]

I wasn't checking exactly things like camels and talents, since they don't affect endgame scoring, so they might be off by one or two. I gave Kirian a Camel from Ishtar.

Endgame scoring: Everyone has one resource so gets 1 Prestige.
Amyitis's favour: eHalc has built 6 tiles, and so gets 10 Prestige. Kirian has built 4 tiles, and so gets 5 Prestige.

Final Scores:

3rd: Kirian - 59
2nd: ghostofmars - 72
1st: eHalcyon - 94

Congratulations eHalc, and well done to everyone else! I hope you all enjoyed the game, I enjoyed running this one.

Current Player: Endgame

Caravan Location: Ur
First player: eHalcyon
Round Number: Endgame
Garden tiles left: 3

Group 1	Group 2	Group 3
X	X	X
Merchant	X	X
X	X	X

	Kirian	ghostofmars	eHalcyon
Prestige	59	72	94
Resources	Dates	Salt	Palm
Camels	3	0	2
Talents	4	2	1

Link to game sheet

[ghostofmars]

Thanks you for modding, Tables.

Congrats eHalcyon to a dominant win, well played.

[eHalcyon]

Cheers.  It was fun!

For anybody interested, here are my notes.  It might be hard to follow though.

There was one moment early on that I thought was really lucky for me.  It was the round just after ghost had gotten both Caravaneer and Banker.  Only a single Merchant came up and I was first to pick, so ghost was left unable to move at all that round and Kirian was pretty limited.  I was able to leverage that to get Caravaneer for myself and set up to get Banker 2 and Banker 3 the round after.

That was also the round where Kirian had some really weird bad luck where he somehow had the wrong resources to plant and I got confused too.

[Kirian]

Gg guys.  I'll look at your notes later eH, when I'm at an actual computer and not mobile

[Tables]

Okay, so I'm gonna have a look at all the recruitments as a breakdown...

There, I've added a tab to the spreadsheet, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pmolfTSogaebDJo_qDpkmUkpvmd5QPl9dtVo4wmoqZI/edit#gid=535831188 so everyone can see the numbers. In short:

There was definitely a significant shortage of peasants compared to average, and a glut of Merchants and Priests in it's place. Engineers were just slightly below average in representation.

Turns 8 onwards had actually a very close to average mix of cards, overall over the 5 turns. About the only way it could have been more average is if one of the Merchants was a Priest at some point. So most of the uneven weight happened before that point.

The peasant count was definitely way below average. Not once were all 4 peasants drawn, and in fact rarely were 3 peasants drawn - only once in the first half of the game. The biggest disparity as a percentage of the averagewas turn 7, by which point only 2/3rds of the average number of peasants had been drawn. From there, their draw rate was about average - it stayed at roughly -6 from the mean for the last few turns.

Perhaps less noticable due to it not causing such an issue was the overabundance of Merchants. Only once did a lone Merchant come out (the round that eHalc was talking about earlier), and both before and after that, an above average number of Merchants were drawn. I think this showed - not only were people passing up Merchants regularly, but people still had multiple camels left at the end of the game.

The Engineer count was pretty close to average throughout the game. Well, just below average, but over this many samples that's close enough to call average.

Priests went the other way to Engineers, and were mostly average for a bit... but then suddenly came out in huge numbers around the midgame. Three rounds with three priests in a row is kinda a lot.

Overall, the obvious deviation from the average was peasants and to a lesser degree merchants. A real shortage of peasants meant more time was spent fighting for those Tammouz actions, I noticed, and the peasants all went quickly.

[eHalcyon]

For a while, I thought there were only 3 Peasants among all the cards.  Can you also breakdown how much of each craftsmen were taken by each player?  Also, who got 1st/2nd most often from each temple?

I definitely think that the $2 income from Banker was more valuable than the points.  If you take away my 16 Banker points I still have the lead, but I wouldn't have been able to do so much planting and irrigating without the talents income.

[Tables]

For a while, I thought there were only 3 Peasants among all the cards.  Can you also breakdown how much of each craftsmen were taken by each player?  Also, who got 1st/2nd most often from each temple?

That's too much effort for me, sorry. It was easy to do the overall craftsmen, since I could just ctrl+f for "round number: X" and find the first post of each round. Doing more requires going through every post in the thread.

[eHalcyon]

For a while, I thought there were only 3 Peasants among all the cards.  Can you also breakdown how much of each craftsmen were taken by each player?  Also, who got 1st/2nd most often from each temple?

That's too much effort for me, sorry. It was easy to do the overall craftsmen, since I could just ctrl+f for "round number: X" and find the first post of each round. Doing more requires going through every post in the thread.

Haha, fair enough.  Maybe I will do it later...

[ghostofmars]

Wow, I read your notes. You invested way more into this game than I did.

For the record: Here are the number of extra turns* that each player had: Kirian - 2, Ghost - 10, eHalcyon - 15 which relates roughly to the banker income (Kirian - 0, Ghost - 10, eHalcyon - 18). Interestingly, from turn 4 onwards, Kirian always had to pass first.

*I count as an extra turn if you take a turn when everybody else has passed or if a player other than the start player passes, so that the start player gets to act more.

[eHalcyon]

Wow, I read your notes. You invested way more into this game than I did.

For the record: Here are the number of extra turns* that each player had: Kirian - 2, Ghost - 10, eHalcyon - 15 which relates roughly to the banker income (Kirian - 0, Ghost - 10, eHalcyon - 18). Interestingly, from turn 4 onwards, Kirian always had to pass first.

*I count as an extra turn if you take a turn when everybody else has passed or if a player other than the start player passes, so that the start player gets to act more.

That's what I do with online games.   I like the analytical bits of it but I can't really do that IRL (without taking an obscene amount of time).  Playing online, it's totally OK to spend 5 minutes thinking through the ramifications of each choice and considering what the others might be doing.  IRL, I have to estimate more broadly.  I'm pretty good at this in some games (7 Wonders) and kinda bad at it in others (Small World, The Ancient World).

[ghostofmars]

That's what I do with online games.   I like the analytical bits of it but I can't really do that IRL (without taking an obscene amount of time).  Playing online, it's totally OK to spend 5 minutes thinking through the ramifications of each choice and considering what the others might be doing.  IRL, I have to estimate more broadly.  I'm pretty good at this in some games (7 Wonders) and kinda bad at it in others (Small World, The Ancient World).

Tracking issues are the reason why I don't like playing 7 Wonders without expansion anymore. I feel that I more or less understand the strategy of the game and to improve I would need to increase the amount of information I track. Without that it feels a bit too random for me, because your strategy can be ruined by clustering of important cards.