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ephesos:
Suppose that I play a Village, and then Band of Misfits as Conspirator. Do I get the +1 Card/+1 Action?
A similar case is if I play BoM as Village, and then play Conspirator. Essentially, does playing BoM as another card count as two played actions for Conspirator, or one?

My view is that since Band of Misfits reads "Play this", you're instructed to play it again. Similar to how Cultist says that you may play another Cultist, or how Herald plays the top card of your deck, you are playing Band of Misfits as Conspirator. But first, you had to play Band of Misfits, follow the instructions on the card, choose Conspirator, and then play BoM as though it was Conspirator.

I tried looking up the definition of "playing" a card in the rules, but it seems quite restrictive since it said that playing involves taking it from your hand and placing it in play, then following the instructions.
The Dominion FAQ at BGG http://boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/Complete_and_All-Encompassing_Dominion_FAQ#toc14 says that, more generally, playing a card is announcing that you are playing it, placing it in your play area, and then following the instructions.

The way I see it, then, is that you must first play BoM, definitely counting as a played action. Then, you follow the directions on the card, and choose a card to treat it as. Then, you play it as that card, possibly counting as a second action. It does not enter play, but you follow the instructions.

An Action card played by another Action card(e.g. King's Court, Throne Room) counts as a played action for Conspirator. So the issue here is if playing an Action card with itself similarly counts as a played action, or doesn't.

sudgy:
I'm pretty certain that BoM's "play this as if..." clause means more "when you play this, play it as if..." meaning that it affects how it is played without playing itself again.  I'm about 90% (yeah, yeah, 92% of percentages are made up on the spot) sure this is the correct answer.

GendoIkari:
I don't have a particular rule to point to, but you don't get the bonus; BoM-as-Conspirator is still just 1 card played.

silverspawn:

--- Quote from: GendoIkari on July 20, 2014, 08:54:17 pm ---I don't have a particular rule to point to, but you don't get the bonus; BoM-as-Conspirator is still just 1 card played.

--- End quote ---

according to goko. which isn't a proof.
(I do think it's correct though. but still).

eHalcyon:
It's part of the clarification for how BoM works.  It's like you never played BoM, you only played whatever card you choose.  That's why BoM works the way it does with TR.

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