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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #225 on: August 11, 2014, 09:57:31 am »

I have town reads on ash, eevee, and axxle. Scum reads on Hyrdad and mail-mi. Leaning scum on WW but less so than I was. Mostly null on all the lurkers (there's a lot) but I could go for a lurker lynch.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #226 on: August 11, 2014, 10:40:15 am »

These town reads on me seem fishy. Especially the ones that have emerged after multiple people have indicated they don't like me as a target for today (either jokingly or due to a town read).
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #227 on: August 11, 2014, 10:52:56 am »

The way you voted for Witherweaver. The way you reacted when I voted for you. The self-voting. The fact that you put suspicion on me but vote for someone else.

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This is in response to Hydrad asking why ADK is voting him. I think ADK not taking into account that Hydrad is a relatively new player and that he's just soing newbie things is scummy. You can't possibly hsve a solid case this early in the game but ADK is trying to make it look like he does.

You don't think that self-voting after a few votes is something a newbie scum player would do? And it's certainly possible to have solid cases on people day one. I had a really awesome case on WW in Monster's U right off the bat and wasn't belligerent enough to push it. I'm trying to be more belligerent these days.

Self voting could come from newbie town or scum. That's completely null for me. Yes it's possible to have a solid case day 1 but my point is that your case is far from solid, but you're trying hard to make it seem like it is.

I understand I'm kinda lurking and I'm sorry about that but I've posted at twice about ADK and the only one to respond is ADK. Does anybody else have an opinion on what I'm saying?
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #228 on: August 11, 2014, 11:02:19 am »

The way you voted for Witherweaver. The way you reacted when I voted for you. The self-voting. The fact that you put suspicion on me but vote for someone else.

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This is in response to Hydrad asking why ADK is voting him. I think ADK not taking into account that Hydrad is a relatively new player and that he's just soing newbie things is scummy. You can't possibly hsve a solid case this early in the game but ADK is trying to make it look like he does.

You don't think that self-voting after a few votes is something a newbie scum player would do? And it's certainly possible to have solid cases on people day one. I had a really awesome case on WW in Monster's U right off the bat and wasn't belligerent enough to push it. I'm trying to be more belligerent these days.

Self voting could come from newbie town or scum. That's completely null for me. Yes it's possible to have a solid case day 1 but my point is that your case is far from solid, but you're trying hard to make it seem like it is.

I understand I'm kinda lurking and I'm sorry about that but I've posted at twice about ADK and the only one to respond is ADK. Does anybody else have an opinion on what I'm saying?

I thought I had responded.

ADK usually casts suspicions and makes cases pretty early, usually on not much, and quite often against me.  Recall Monster's U, Stack the Deck, Homeland, etc. 

From what I've seen of scum ADK, he tends to be more reserved and careful, feeling things out and not being the one to propose a case that no one else has seen.  However, I've only seen scum ADK in my first newbie game and a Bastard/Drunk game, so not the best data points.

Also, I think I've brought up this point before, so ADK surely has to be aware that this impression of him is out there by at least one person, so he may which to replicate this.

Currently, I'm reserving judgement.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #229 on: August 11, 2014, 11:03:20 am »

I guess that should say "When town, ADK usually..".  But it could just be mostly an ADK trait, since I haven't really observed scum!ADK enough.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #230 on: August 11, 2014, 12:53:11 pm »

The way you voted for Witherweaver. The way you reacted when I voted for you. The self-voting. The fact that you put suspicion on me but vote for someone else.

ppe: 1

This is in response to Hydrad asking why ADK is voting him. I think ADK not taking into account that Hydrad is a relatively new player and that he's just soing newbie things is scummy. You can't possibly hsve a solid case this early in the game but ADK is trying to make it look like he does.

You don't think that self-voting after a few votes is something a newbie scum player would do? And it's certainly possible to have solid cases on people day one. I had a really awesome case on WW in Monster's U right off the bat and wasn't belligerent enough to push it. I'm trying to be more belligerent these days.

Self voting could come from newbie town or scum. That's completely null for me. Yes it's possible to have a solid case day 1 but my point is that your case is far from solid, but you're trying hard to make it seem like it is.

I understand I'm kinda lurking and I'm sorry about that but I've posted at twice about ADK and the only one to respond is ADK. Does anybody else have an opinion on what I'm saying?

I think it's weird that he feels so strongly on me but I don't think those feelings make him scum. But I realize my opinion doesn't matter as much since I'm the one being suspected
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #231 on: August 11, 2014, 01:17:45 pm »

These town reads on me seem fishy. Especially the ones that have emerged after multiple people have indicated they don't like me as a target for today (either jokingly or due to a town read).
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #232 on: August 11, 2014, 01:58:28 pm »

These town reads on me seem fishy. Especially the ones that have emerged after multiple people have indicated they don't like me as a target for today (either jokingly or due to a town read).

This post only strengthens my town read on you, really.

And WW, you said those cases on you weren't based on much but man, they sure were all right.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #233 on: August 11, 2014, 02:01:38 pm »

These town reads on me seem fishy. Especially the ones that have emerged after multiple people have indicated they don't like me as a target for today (either jokingly or due to a town read).

This post only strengthens my town read on you, really.

And WW, you said those cases on you weren't based on much but man, they sure were all right.

But you could have said anything and that I was scum and been right.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #234 on: August 11, 2014, 02:01:53 pm »

Mod, will scum get fake claims? Or is this not public information?

From the setup:

All scum will get a flavor and role fakeclaim.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #235 on: August 11, 2014, 08:32:56 pm »

These town reads on me seem fishy. Especially the ones that have emerged after multiple people have indicated they don't like me as a target for today (either jokingly or due to a town read).

This post only strengthens my town read on you, really.

And WW, you said those cases on you weren't based on much but man, they sure were all right.

But you could have said anything and that I was scum and been right.

I don't think my reasoning was entirely off in those games. Your "townslip" in MU was certainly faked, and I don't think I was in the wrong to say so. And in Rerun I don't think that I was wrong to point out that people who jump on "scumslip" arguments are more likely to be scum than town. Not every early game argument pans out and not every early read is correct, but in those games I didn't just say "WW is always scum, so he must be scum now!", and I disagree with Andrew on thinking the confidence in the early game is scummy.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #236 on: August 11, 2014, 08:55:14 pm »

These town reads on me seem fishy. Especially the ones that have emerged after multiple people have indicated they don't like me as a target for today (either jokingly or due to a town read).

This post only strengthens my town read on you, really.

And WW, you said those cases on you weren't based on much but man, they sure were all right.

But you could have said anything and that I was scum and been right.

I don't think my reasoning was entirely off in those games. Your "townslip" in MU was certainly faked, and I don't think I was in the wrong to say so. And in Rerun I don't think that I was wrong to point out that people who jump on "scumslip" arguments are more likely to be scum than town. Not every early game argument pans out and not every early read is correct, but in those games I didn't just say "WW is always scum, so he must be scum now!", and I disagree with Andrew on thinking the confidence in the early game is scummy.

I didn't say confidence is scummy, I said you're making a flimsy case look solid.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #237 on: August 12, 2014, 06:13:20 pm »

We have a blitz starting that doesn't bode well for getting this game active again. Anyone, anything?
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #238 on: August 12, 2014, 06:16:51 pm »

Everyone vote for mail-mi.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #239 on: August 12, 2014, 06:18:38 pm »

We have a blitz starting that doesn't bode well for getting this game active again. Anyone, anything?

Actually, blitz games ongoing help other games, I think as people are more active generally.

But yeah, let's lynch mail-mi.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #240 on: August 12, 2014, 06:20:02 pm »

Oh, why mail-mi? For once the idea hasn't crossed my mind.


Or I think it did once and I dismissed because I didn't see anything going for it. Is that why?
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« Reply #241 on: August 12, 2014, 06:24:50 pm »

Oh, why mail-mi? For once the idea hasn't crossed my mind.


Or I think it did once and I dismissed because I didn't see anything going for it. Is that why?

Those are great reasons.
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #242 on: August 12, 2014, 06:29:59 pm »

Vote: mail-mi

Feels weird to vote for him as town~
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« Reply #243 on: August 12, 2014, 06:35:02 pm »

Vote Count 1.9

EgorK (1): Jimmmmm (L-6)
Jimmmmm (2): EgorK, Ashersky (L-5)
Hydrad (1): Eevee (L-6)
A Drowned Kernel (2): Chairs, AndrewisFTTW (L-5)
Ashersky (1): mailmi (L-6)
mail-mi (3): Hydrad, A Drowned Kernel, Axxle (L-4)
Lekkit (1): Witherweaver (L-6)

not voting (1): Lekkit

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on August 14 at 8:30AM forum time.
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« Reply #244 on: August 12, 2014, 06:39:49 pm »

vote: mail-mi
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Re: RMM 17: Kanto (Pokemon) Mafia - Day 1 Starts!
« Reply #245 on: August 12, 2014, 06:43:18 pm »

Axxle is remarkable devoid of original content.
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« Reply #246 on: August 12, 2014, 06:43:47 pm »

Axxle is remarkable devoid of original content.

But he's Axxle, so that's cool.  Axxle2 on the other hand...
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« Reply #247 on: August 12, 2014, 06:54:06 pm »

Axxle is remarkable devoid of original content.

But he's Axxle, so that's cool.  Axxle2 on the other hand...
I miss that guy. Anyone know what he's been up to?
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« Reply #248 on: August 12, 2014, 07:02:37 pm »

Axxle is remarkable devoid of original content.
And you're remarkably passive aggressive this game, do you want to use someone else as your attack dog?
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« Reply #249 on: August 12, 2014, 07:05:02 pm »

Axxle is remarkable devoid of original content.
And you're remarkably passive aggressive this game, do you want to use someone else as your attack dog?
Hmmmm.. WitherWeaver, I choose you!
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