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[Minotaur]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

It's close enough to a G quadruple sharp for jazz...

[Awaclus]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

Really? Isn't that like the most basic thing in music theory?

[Minotaur]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

Really? Isn't that like the most basic thing in music theory?

Not everyone geeks out over theory, or even plays a musical instrument more than twice in the fourth grade, or edge cases people on the internet as a hobby.  A lot of people only know that there is this notation, and that putting a sharp or flat on a white note gets you the black note next to it, and this is a good thing because the C scale sounds nice and all white notes would be disorienting anyway.  It's not the worst thing someone could be.

[Awaclus]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

Really? Isn't that like the most basic thing in music theory?

Not everyone geeks out over theory, or even plays a musical instrument more than twice in the fourth grade, or edge cases people on the internet as a hobby.  A lot of people only know that there is this notation, and that putting a sharp or flat on a white note gets you the black note next to it, and this is a good thing because the C scale

But knowing what a scale is already requires deeper understanding of music theory than knowing why you sometimes want a Cb.

[sudgy]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

Really? Isn't that like the most basic thing in music theory?

It was to a 12-year-old (or so) that sings.  Singers don't know as much about music theory as people who play musical instruments.

[Minotaur]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

Really? Isn't that like the most basic thing in music theory?

Not everyone geeks out over theory, or even plays a musical instrument more than twice in the fourth grade, or edge cases people on the internet as a hobby.  A lot of people only know that there is this notation, and that putting a sharp or flat on a white note gets you the black note next to it, and this is a good thing because the C scale

But knowing what a scale is already requires deeper understanding of music theory than knowing why you sometimes want a Cb.

Sure, if you're a relentless internet pedant.

[Awaclus]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

Really? Isn't that like the most basic thing in music theory?

Not everyone geeks out over theory, or even plays a musical instrument more than twice in the fourth grade, or edge cases people on the internet as a hobby.  A lot of people only know that there is this notation, and that putting a sharp or flat on a white note gets you the black note next to it, and this is a good thing because the C scale

But knowing what a scale is already requires deeper understanding of music theory than knowing why you sometimes want a Cb.

Sure, if you're a relentless internet pedant.

Even if you're not, how can you know what a scale is without knowing why you sometimes want a Cb?

[Minotaur]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

Really? Isn't that like the most basic thing in music theory?

Not everyone geeks out over theory, or even plays a musical instrument more than twice in the fourth grade, or edge cases people on the internet as a hobby.  A lot of people only know that there is this notation, and that putting a sharp or flat on a white note gets you the black note next to it, and this is a good thing because the C scale

But knowing what a scale is already requires deeper understanding of music theory than knowing why you sometimes want a Cb.

Sure, if you're a relentless internet pedant.

Even if you're not, how can you know what a scale is without knowing why you sometimes want a Cb?

Because it's Joy To The World.  An eight-year-old can sing it within a reasonable accuracy tolerance by most standards.

[Awaclus]

Because it's Joy To The World.  An eight-year-old can sing it within a reasonable accuracy tolerance by most standards.

That isn't really knowing what a scale is, though.

[AndrewisFTTW]

But nobody ever writes anything using Cb.

[-N-]

Devil
Cost: 2
Action
+666 Cards
+666 Actions
+666 Buys
At the end of this turn, gain a curse for every buy you have left.

[Ozle]

Does anyone else really want a Cb now?

[Axxle]

I prefer cassettes.

[sudgy]

Does anyone else really want a Cb now?

I just went over to my keyboard and played one.  Har!

[Kirian]

But nobody ever writes anything using Cb.

So having two young girls, Frozen is of course "the thing".

The song Let it Go is written in Ab major, with the intro in F minor.  Now five flats is pretty exotic to start.  But then you get to the end of the chorus and it's suddenly a bit dissonant, and that dissonance then continues into the bridge.  If you look at the notes out of context, it looks like a B major chord.  But no: the song has modulated down a double dominant to Gb, and that is a Cb major (IV) chord.

As far as I can tell, the entire point of the Cb major chords earlier than the bridge is to anticipate the modulation down, just for the purpose of a double dominant modulation halfway through the bridge.

[Kirian]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

Really? Isn't that like the most basic thing in music theory?

Not everyone geeks out over theory, or even plays a musical instrument more than twice in the fourth grade, or edge cases people on the internet as a hobby.  A lot of people only know that there is this notation, and that putting a sharp or flat on a white note gets you the black note next to it, and this is a good thing because the C scale

But knowing what a scale is already requires deeper understanding of music theory than knowing why you sometimes want a Cb.

Sure, if you're a relentless internet pedant.

Even if you're not, how can you know what a scale is without knowing why you sometimes want a Cb?

I'm absolutely certain I learned how to play a major scale well before I knew what enharmonics were, or really even what accidentals are.

[silverspawn]

So having two young girls, Frozen is of course "the thing".

The song Let it Go is written in Ab major, with the intro in F minor.  Now five flats is pretty exotic to start.  But then you get to the end of the chorus and it's suddenly a bit dissonant, and that dissonance then continues into the bridge.  If you look at the notes out of context, it looks like a B major chord.  But no: the song has modulated down a double dominant to Gb, and that is a Cb major (IV) chord.

As far as I can tell, the entire point of the Cb major chords earlier than the bridge is to anticipate the modulation down, just for the purpose of a double dominant modulation halfway through the bridge.

and... is that brilliant use of chord technics or is it bad songwriting or is it just an analysis without any quality evaluation?

[eHalcyon]

F sharp or G flat (which are different notes here!)

They are always different notes.

I had a hard time recently explaining to someone why you would ever want a Cb.

Really? Isn't that like the most basic thing in music theory?

Not everyone geeks out over theory, or even plays a musical instrument more than twice in the fourth grade, or edge cases people on the internet as a hobby.  A lot of people only know that there is this notation, and that putting a sharp or flat on a white note gets you the black note next to it, and this is a good thing because the C scale

But knowing what a scale is already requires deeper understanding of music theory than knowing why you sometimes want a Cb.

I learned piano when I was a kid and did introductory music theory.  I don't remember learning about alternative tunings and such.  As such, Cb wouldn't have made sense to me because that would just be a B.

[Minotaur]

Pedant
Cost: 4
Action-Attack

+1 Card
+1 Action
Each other player must give a working definition of a thing of your choice.  If the rigor of the given definition does not unanimously satisfy the experts at f.ds, that player gains a Curse (and presumably doesn't deserve to live).

[pacovf]

The comparison would work much better if the card was a reaction. The card itself is terribly undercosted. It also prolongs games it's in even more than possession. Truly, thinking that this card was viable already makes me question whether you deserve to live.

[Kirian]

So having two young girls, Frozen is of course "the thing".

The song Let it Go is written in Ab major, with the intro in F minor.  Now five flats is pretty exotic to start.  But then you get to the end of the chorus and it's suddenly a bit dissonant, and that dissonance then continues into the bridge.  If you look at the notes out of context, it looks like a B major chord.  But no: the song has modulated down a double dominant to Gb, and that is a Cb major (IV) chord.

As far as I can tell, the entire point of the Cb major chords earlier than the bridge is to anticipate the modulation down, just for the purpose of a double dominant modulation halfway through the bridge.

and... is that brilliant use of chord technics or is it bad songwriting or is it just an analysis without any quality evaluation?

I thought it was pretty brilliant when I noticed it.

[ConMan]

So having two young girls, Frozen is of course "the thing".

The song Let it Go is written in Ab major, with the intro in F minor.  Now five flats is pretty exotic to start.  But then you get to the end of the chorus and it's suddenly a bit dissonant, and that dissonance then continues into the bridge.  If you look at the notes out of context, it looks like a B major chord.  But no: the song has modulated down a double dominant to Gb, and that is a Cb major (IV) chord.

As far as I can tell, the entire point of the Cb major chords earlier than the bridge is to anticipate the modulation down, just for the purpose of a double dominant modulation halfway through the bridge.

and... is that brilliant use of chord technics or is it bad songwriting or is it just an analysis without any quality evaluation?

I'm going to vote for clever musical trick. Like the pun in Canterlot Wedding.

[scott_pilgrim]

Last night I dreamed that the new promo card was this:

(I don't remember name/cost)
Action
Play an action card from your hand.  If you have 6 or more copies of that card in play, play it another 6 times.

[Witherweaver]

Last night I dreamed that the new promo card was this:

(I don't remember name/cost)
Action
Play an action card from your hand.  If you have 6 or more copies of that card in play, play it another 6 times.

Queue Scout fractal.

[pacovf]

Last night I dreamed that the new promo card was this:

(I don't remember name/cost)
Action
Play an action card from your hand.  If you have 6 or more copies of that card in play, play it another 6 times.

Queue Scout fractal.

You do have a knack for making me waste time in that thread. For those that don't remember:

I'm not really sure where the best place to put this is (likely nowhere), but I accidentally created an Infinite Scout Vortex and I thought I'd share...