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Author Topic: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Game over : Scum wins !)  (Read 100412 times)

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #725 on: July 23, 2014, 01:09:03 pm »

Either all 3 scum are on wagon or azadin is scum, right? Otherwise scum already would hammer this

False. We are not in LYLO. Scum don't automatically win by lynching town.

Yes, but going into 4:3 lylo is rather good chances for scum

And scum could have hammered at anytime. Now especially since I do no think ash and robz are both scum(this game is just not playing like a scum!ash/robz game)

I am pretty confident that Azadin is scum whic means I am pretty confident robz is town.

I need to check to see how this claim effects things though really doc should have used his shot on one of the 2 Ic's I find it hard to believe he didn't stop the Scott kill.

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #726 on: July 23, 2014, 01:10:06 pm »

My gut tells me to hammer, but if I am incorrect the game is basically done (as you would have to lynch me D4)

Wait what? Wierd thinking, why would we have to lynch you?
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #727 on: July 23, 2014, 01:10:50 pm »

Either all 3 scum are on wagon or azadin is scum, right? Otherwise scum already would hammer this

False. We are not in LYLO. Scum don't automatically win by lynching town.

Yes, but going into 4:3 lylo is rather good chances for scum

Not if we know who one of them is because he quickhammered.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #728 on: July 23, 2014, 01:12:13 pm »

I didn't use my shot because I knew they had a strongman and I was hoping to hold out until we lynched him. It was likely a mistake and I will definitely remember that for future games.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #729 on: July 23, 2014, 01:14:57 pm »

Either all 3 scum are on wagon or azadin is scum, right? Otherwise scum already would hammer this

False. We are not in LYLO. Scum don't automatically win by lynching town.

Yes, but going into 4:3 lylo is rather good chances for scum

Not if we know who one of them is because he quickhammered.

It would not look like a quick hammer at all
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #730 on: July 23, 2014, 01:15:38 pm »

Also ash your setup stinks...it's no help in solving anything!
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #731 on: July 23, 2014, 01:20:38 pm »

I didn't use my shot because I knew they had a strongman and I was hoping to hold out until we lynched him. It was likely a mistake and I will definitely remember that for future games.

You did not know they had a strongman, 1-shot doc could be E, you knew we had EMM, plenty of T's left to make the team have no strongman...
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #732 on: July 23, 2014, 01:35:39 pm »

I didn't use my shot because I knew they had a strongman and I was hoping to hold out until we lynched him. It was likely a mistake and I will definitely remember that for future games.

You did not know they had a strongman, 1-shot doc could be E, you knew we had EMM, plenty of T's left to make the team have no strongman...

Yes I did. We knew there was at least MM at the start of day 1. By day 2, sudgy's claim was believable (and if you go back and look, I believed it, and still do). That means at least 3 rolls non-T. Mine put it at 4, which guarantees scum a roleblocker and strongman.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #733 on: July 23, 2014, 01:44:39 pm »

This game has seriously gotten out of hand, no one has responded to why they're voting for me except the fact this game has stalled (which is NOT my fault, as your logic seems to imply). I merely asked for some explanation besides a "gut feeling" or my lack of previous scrutiny. How does the deafening silence convince you I'm scum? Please give me actual reasons, here!

It's not your fault per se, but the fact that the game has stalled so horrendously after a wagon formed on you makes me think that you're scum and your partners are hesitant to defend you or post much at all for fear of seeming scummy if you flip.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #734 on: July 23, 2014, 01:50:12 pm »

I feel like everyone is just sorta ignoring this game, which sucks that it's my first experience here. And now I'm at L-1 because I wasn't sure how to get the game moving again.

As I'm basically a VT now (scum has both role blocker AND strongman, so my one shot is useless), I guess I made a mistake even claiming my PR because it doesn't help anyone but scum. Just realized this. Sigh, I guess I'm learning a lot at least.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #735 on: July 23, 2014, 02:21:46 pm »

No, claiming is not a mistake. I don't believe your claim, though.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #736 on: July 23, 2014, 02:30:22 pm »

My gut tells me to hammer, but if I am incorrect the game is basically done (as you would have to lynch me D4)

Wait what? Wierd thinking, why would we have to lynch you?

As policy to avoid qhs?

Anyway to the hell with this. Vote:EgorK
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #737 on: July 23, 2014, 02:30:57 pm »

Lol. Really need more vacation. vote:azadin
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #738 on: July 23, 2014, 02:36:22 pm »

My gut tells me to hammer, but if I am incorrect the game is basically done (as you would have to lynch me D4)

Wait what? Wierd thinking, why would we have to lynch you?

As policy to avoid qhs?

Anyway to the hell with this. Vote:EgorK

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #739 on: July 23, 2014, 02:37:06 pm »

I don't understand it.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #740 on: July 23, 2014, 02:46:46 pm »

THREAD LOCKED
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #741 on: July 23, 2014, 02:48:59 pm »

Day 3 Final Vote Count

azadin (5) : Robz888, ashersky, chairs, A Drowned Kernel, EgorK

Robz888 (1) : azadin
Not Voting (3) : mcmcsalot, sudgy, Witherweaver

With 9 alive, it took 5 to lynch.

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #742 on: July 23, 2014, 02:51:32 pm »

Will add flavor later

azadin, aka Peter Quinn, the Mafia Roleblocker has been lynched.

Night will last 48 hours, everyone is required to confirm by PM or by posting in their QT
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Night 3)
« Reply #743 on: July 25, 2014, 05:14:29 pm »

When they woke up, they found Carrie crying in a corner.
"What's the matter ?", Jessica asked.
"It's Saul... he's ... he's gone..."

ashersky (Saul Berenson, the Vanilla Townie) has been killed in the night.

Day 4 starts now !
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #744 on: July 25, 2014, 05:14:37 pm »

Vote Count 4.0


Not Voting (7): A Drowned Kernel, Robz888, EgorK, Witherweaver, chairs, mcmcsalot, sudgy

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 ends at 05:00 PM on August 1
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #745 on: July 25, 2014, 05:32:37 pm »

Well, mcmc just got more Towny to me.

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #746 on: July 25, 2014, 05:37:42 pm »

Well, mcmc just got more Towny to me.

Hm, this is a good point.  I don't think he would be questioning his partner's claim like that.

I don't think Robz would be tunneling like that, either.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #747 on: July 25, 2014, 05:48:11 pm »

Yeah, I think we can pretty much POE this.

vote: WW
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #748 on: July 25, 2014, 05:50:22 pm »

Hm, this wagon analysis is confusing.  Sudgy scum is unlikely.. McMc didn't seem a whole lot like a partner.. would both scum bus Azadin?  Maybe.. the whole thing blew up kind of quickly.  It's possible a partner got on earlyish and there was never a time to get off.  But Ash was town.. this points to Chairs as the early partner, or in some obscure case Robz.  EgorK would make the most sense for the other partner.. possibly ADK, but ADK put him at L-1, and I think at that point ADK had the opportunity to pursue another lynch  if he wanted to.

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #749 on: July 25, 2014, 05:51:33 pm »

Yeah, I think we can pretty much POE this.

vote: WW

Yeah, well.. looking at the votes I understand this.  I don't actually know what to say.. he really did not sound like scum to me.
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