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[Teproc]

You'd need a full vig to make it a tie, and I don't think that was possible given the flips.

What does everyone think about UB inheriting IC ? It pretty much neutralized the UB here, because he's pretty much already an IC as that's basically impossible to counterclaim.

[Witherweaver]

Pretty sure after this game I'm going to start getting Day 1 lynched.

[Witherweaver]

From speccy:

"Because I was already set up by everyone to be EgorK's partner. It was mentioned multiple times. So me hammering just looks like scum partner jumping on for cred. But then I realized that it didn't matter, because I was pretty sure EgorK would flip scum, and even if I were to get mislynched today for it, it would still be a 1-1 trade, so it seemed a good idea.

I may have jumped the gun, but what more did you want to discuss? Three players had already voted for EgorK, and the only other players---you and ADK---had stated willingness to vote. So, what was going to happen? It was literally unanimous."

This post seems like a serious scumslip to me -- am I confused? How is it a 1-1 trade if EgorK flips town.

Here I was pretending to think that I was almost 100% sure EgorK was scum, but I was going to get lynched tomorrow because everyone would think I was hammering my scum partner for cred.

Oh, the next post by him saw this.

[Witherweaver]

My biggest worry about hammering EgorK is I was basically saying "Okay I'm scum, lynch me tomorrow but my partner is still going to win," and for me to be that confident, my partner has to be the least likely person to get lynched.  So it heavily pointed to Robz, I think.

[chairs]

For me, mcmc was the person I was least likely to lynch... which unfortunately led to Robz becoming a suboptimal choice, and since I was SOLD you were scum, I wanted to make sure that Today we got your partner (so there wouldn't be confusion when, inevitably, you NK'd me).

I just misread, sorry guys

[mcmcsalot]

For me, mcmc was the person I was least likely to lynch... which unfortunately led to Robz becoming a suboptimal choice, and since I was SOLD you were scum, I wanted to make sure that Today we got your partner (so there wouldn't be confusion when, inevitably, you NK'd me).

I just misread, sorry guys

Like i said, I would have done the same thing tomorow

[2.71828.....]

I believe you are trolling me real hard

Nope, I don't troll. Not trolling, promise.

I didn't think of it as trolling. It was necessary in case we were going to night, which I think would have happened if both mcmc and chairs were vigs. Unlikely, but possible.

With all the roles that had already flipped I don't think town could have had a full vig, which is what they would have needed to tie (at best), but I wasn't trying to accuse you of being a troll.  I know that you do not troll, and yourself being a journalist I would think you probably have a pretty low opinion of people who do.  However, if I were to ever troll someone, it would be my brother, and I would totally troll him for fun at the end of a game if he were to be online and posting at the same time.  Which is what I thought could have happened, which is why I found it so funny.

[Witherweaver]

I actually thought Robz was trolling.  I didn't think about the vig possibilities.

[ashersky]

You'd need a full vig to make it a tie, and I don't think that was possible given the flips.

What does everyone think about UB inheriting IC ? It pretty much neutralized the UB here, because he's pretty much already an IC as that's basically impossible to counterclaim.

I built it into the setup that way.  The UB always existing helps town anyway, so sometimes he's not going to be "useful" with PRs.  He inherits empty shot roles, too.

[ashersky]

You'd need a full vig to make it a tie, and I don't think that was possible given the flips.

What does everyone think about UB inheriting IC ? It pretty much neutralized the UB here, because he's pretty much already an IC as that's basically impossible to counterclaim.

I built it into the setup that way.  The UB always existing helps town anyway, so sometimes he's not going to be "useful" with PRs.  He inherits empty shot roles, too.

I guess that's missing from the setup information?  But yeah, UB inherits IC.  If they inherited a 1-Shot Cop role with no shots remaining, they'd get the 1-Shot Cop PM, but with a caveat that "you have no shots remaining" or something.

[chairs]

So, once again this game confirms that I should just "trust my gut" and not even TRY to do reads, because at the end of the day my instinct is right more often than my reads.

[Robz888]

Initially, I miscounted in my head and thought even one Vig would mean we would have another day. I PMed Teproc something to this effect.

Then in the middle of my trolling I realized I had miscounted and was being way overly cautious. But, you know, it's fine to be careful.

[Witherweaver]

My heart started beating hard when I did my ADK vote though.. never coordinated a quickhammer like that.  And I was on my stupid phone so I had typed it into a text box early so I could copy it and not take forever.  Then I was just constantly refreshing waiting for Robz.

[A Drowned Kernel]

bleaaah I can't believe that happened while I was at work. Good job guys, I probably would have lynched mc tomorrow if we had lynched WW. My thought on Robz bussing azadin was "Robz is conniving but I don't think he's THAT conniving." I'll try not to make that mistake in the future.

[azadin]

Probably a good thing I was lynched a few days ago, as I've been super busy IRL.

Just caught up on the end of the game. That was a lot of fun! I definitely enjoyed my first foray into Mafia and look forward to more games.